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Anime => Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki => Topic started by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 03:27:56 PM

Title: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
A new pic came out upsetting some assumptions some people had about the doujin:
(http://s12.postimg.org/rsb0d02n1/censored_UTTMIF.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Namely, some of us were too focused on the Ayeka, Ryoko, and Seina's eldest son to notice Ryo-ohki!  In the previous pages Ayeka and Ryoko were pregnant, and in the next panel over, Kiriko was pregnant, we don't notice Ryoohki!

What is she doing?
(http://s14.postimg.org/lbvkmbt69/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Is she just touching herself for the heck of it?  Or her crystals gathered together like in hibernation just for fun?  Even 3 cabbits in a basket hardly alerted anybody (except Shades) in the fandom.  There are tons of cabbits around!
(http://s14.postimg.org/6v8b7r3ox/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

But finally we see the theme here the poster up above is telling us:
(http://s14.postimg.org/vn7xezkvl/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

First, notice the theme set up by Tenchi Muyo and reproduced throughout MK's series.  Older girls with younger boys.  This even holds true for Neeju and Sasami through technicalities (Neeju, 2000 years old, Sasami, 708 on paper, her 8 years life experience set off by fusing with Tsunami).

Then notice Ayeka and Ryoko's daughters gather around the younger Seina son.  Then the three cabbit sisters (who have Tenchi's eye color in humanoid form as all his daughters did so far, not the gold of their mother) crowd around the next boy who is younger.  And even in the last pic, Noike's daughter and Mihoshi's daughter (now unmistakenly there's) are drawn in front of a pregnant Balta.  He's the youngest boy in the poster and "their man".

3 groups of kids.  3 harems composed of several Tenchi daughters and a Seina son.  Simple.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: shades of blue on April 12, 2014, 03:59:32 PM
CALLED IT! I was right on the money, about the crystals & the kids. But, I was not expecting them to attend school in humanoid form. That's really pushing the boundary Kaji.


Quote from: shades of blue on January 16, 2014, 07:27:31 AM
I didn't mention it earlier, the shot with Ryo-ohki & the little cabbits I believe first takes place in the storage shed. That brown pointy wall is actually the 101 Ryo-ohki crystals, that normally live in the lake. Guess they vacated the lake after Mihoshi kept crashing into them. So the little cabbits the girls are given are just a couple of her crystals.

BTW This also matches with the piece from Kamidake Onsen 11, because there are 3 cabbits in the basket. Just as there are 3 extra cabbits in that image.

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2qm13s8.jpg)   (http://i43.tinypic.com/4v3dhs.jpg)   (http://s17.postimg.org/pf62mxbe3/mst3000.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/pf62mxbe3/)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Harls on April 12, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
Neat.
What's the source of the top pic, btw? :)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 04:03:43 PM
(http://s24.postimg.org/rd4qttaph/NOIKE_SHH.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
free image hosting (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 04:05:50 PM
Quote from: Harls on April 12, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
Neat.
What's the source of the top pic, btw? :)

A promotional poster MK had at his table at comiket while selling =IF=, but since cameras aren't allowed, not too many photographs of stuff like this floating around. 

I'm told the poster will probably be released later in a bundle or something somewhere.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: shades of blue on April 12, 2014, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 04:05:50 PM
I'm told the poster will probably be released later in a bundle or something somewhere.

Yup, when Kajishima has enough extra promotional material it should be bundled together as Kamidake Onsen 12. Just as he did with Kamidake Onsen 10 & 11. Which means we will not see quality scans of this piece for a couple years. That is unless he decides to bundle it with the next conceptual doujin. Which from the translation of 13.12, it does appear that -If- will get a followup doujin or two.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 12, 2014, 04:38:17 PM
-Told the world Ryo-Ohki was a real harem member

-World denies my theory

-Kaji drops truthbombs

-PROFIT

(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/276/747/bf9.gif)

Seriously though, not to repeat what most of us discussed on Skype, as long as Mihoshi gets confirmed as getting it in like the others, I am officially content.

And I dig Jibs theory on the girls giving Tenchi daughters while the Goddesses give him sons. With those kinds of genes, you'd definitely want to spread that through a male, worked for them damn Juraians after all.

To sum it up, my convo with Adam

QuoteTenchi Ryu: Tenchi steals Ryoko from Kagato, kills Kagato.....fucks Kagato then has Kagato have his child.....9.5 out of 10 badass points

Dr. Soviet: :nod:
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
Oh well, another forum steals my detective work yet again.  I'm told they're translating the 101 I scanned without credit and now the vultures flock to the image I dug up after hours of searching while it was resting 2 months on the internet undisturbed and they bandy it about as if they did more than jack shit to find it.

Might as well share the full pic I was going to publicly release later.

Click for fullsize:
(http://s2.postimg.org/pqr2cfkfd/tumblr_n3xp3h9_Ync1skcniqo1_1280.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/qssdo16hn/)

Here's to being popular and unpopular at the same time!  :haters:
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
Has anyone notice Tenchi's maternal ancestors had only daughters?  Kiyone->Yousho (3 daughters)->Azusa (2 daughters)

Related?

Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Dr.Soviet on April 12, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
Im loveing how butt blasted people are getting.

NIGGA, KAJISHIMA SENSEI DON CARE
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 12, 2014, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on April 12, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
Im loveing how butt blasted people are getting.

NIGGA, KAJISHIMA SENSEI DON CARE

Basically.....

https://www.youtube.com/v/sSNREtboX3s

From yours truly, Masaki Kajishima.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: antvasima on April 13, 2014, 02:46:28 AM
Hmm. Washuu's son doesn't seem to be shown. Wasn't he supposed to marry the sister of the first Jurai Emperor?

Btw: Thanks for the find Jibril. I don't think you seem to be disliked afaIk.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 13, 2014, 03:30:14 AM
Quote from: antvasima on April 13, 2014, 02:46:28 AM
Hmm. Washuu's son doesn't seem to be shown. Wasn't he supposed to marry the sister of the first Jurai Emperor?

If I remember correctly, the family has moved to Jurai by then. Going by the latest Kajishima Onsen, This pic should be about 10 years after Isekai. In fact, this might be around the time of Paradise War. Would explain why Tenchi is taking care of Seina's kids while Seina is helping the protagonist of the new series if our hunch on mystery guy being Seina is true.

Bitch moan and complain about Kaji all you want, but the man stays dead set on his original vision.

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110320202126/tenchi/images/3/30/Rytenko.jpg)

We were told we'd get some Ryoko and Ryo-Ohki daughters, and we got em. A few tweaks here and there, but we're still good to go.

You da man Kaji

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/god_damn_right_breaking_bad.gif)


Though Ryo-Ohki  popped out 3....

My man Tench put in that work

(http://electronicbomb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/electronicbomb-humping-thrusting-gif-11252012-08.gif)

Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: antvasima on April 13, 2014, 07:14:17 AM
Eewww. That's a really disgusting image.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: takahata on April 13, 2014, 05:41:30 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on April 12, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
A new pic came out upsetting some assumptions some people had about the doujin:
(http://s12.postimg.org/rsb0d02n1/censored_UTTMIF.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

The girl on the left of Seina's youngest son is Tenchi's and Mihoshi's daughters.  The girl's hairstyle is similiar to Mihsohi's. Aloso, the girls has tan skin.  The girl behind Seina's youngest son is one of Noike's and Tenchi's daughters.

We can assumed that Tenchi has other sons and daughters. 


Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Dr.Soviet on April 13, 2014, 06:37:32 PM
Quote from: antvasima on April 13, 2014, 07:14:17 AM
Eewww. That's a really disgusting image.

It's art!
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 13, 2014, 09:22:26 PM
I wonder how much Kaji could net with the Kickstarter program. We aren't racking in Megaman fan numbers, but with him being able to sell doujins twice a year, he should be able to get something.


I'd definitely be down for a kickstarter funded 45 min OVA finale.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: antvasima on April 14, 2014, 02:51:59 AM
I've also thought about Kickstarter funding more Tenchi Muyo. Somebody would have to tell him about it first though.

Btw: Somebody flapping his wang around is not art.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tensami on April 14, 2014, 07:53:11 AM
Like I was talking about on skype. Sasami needs to have twin daughters, and since Kaji's being a dick to me and not drawing them I guess I've got to take matters into my own hands.

YO THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOW FUCKING CANON!


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Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Zigra on April 14, 2014, 08:10:33 AM
Quote from: Tensami on April 14, 2014, 07:53:11 AM
Like I was talking about on skype. Sasami needs to have twin daughters, and since Kaji's being a dick to me and not drawing them I guess I've got to take matters into my own hands.

YO THESE CHARACTERS ARE NOW FUCKING CANON!

Very qoot :)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 14, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
Waiting for this to end up on TF's site and tumblr and facebook within 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 14, 2014, 02:19:11 PM
Unfortunately for yall, ain't no daughters up in here. What actually happens is the union of Tenchi and Sasami makes badass Rogue hero akatsuki, who travels to a distant land where he must fight evil and get all the baddest bitches in the world.


(http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2030/0c0ef7d3.gif)

(http://dowase.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/MadeAGirlCry.jpg)

(http://www.kira-reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/hagure_04_02_unc.jpg)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 17, 2014, 11:59:15 AM
I'd just like to remind newcomers that Washu does have a son with Tenchi, as 2 of his kids were introduced in the 1990s:

(http://s29.postimg.org/c5cedi8if/Tenchi_s_Son.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

(http://s13.postimg.org/3nry3uoo7/nontan_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 17, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
I don't think Tenko counts anymore, I personally believe IF doujin was how he now invisions Tenko and Ryo-Ohki's child, the difference being Tenko's hair and now it being 4 girls instead of just one for Ryo-ohki.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on April 17, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on April 17, 2014, 03:12:03 PM
I don't think Tenko counts anymore, I personally believe IF doujin was how he now invisions Tenko and Ryo-Ohki's child, the difference being Tenko's hair and now it being 4 girls instead of just one for Ryo-ohki.

Well, I'll disagree.  I don't see that as a change so much as just building upon.  Everyone changes their hair, even Ayeka did:

http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=394.msg22618#msg22618

and we know Noike went from long to short in OAV3.  Sasami wears her ponytails differently from as a young child.  Etc.

So "Tenko" going from two hair ties to none is no big deal.  I know certain forums around want to see it as breaking sacred continuity, but people irl change more.  Nothing in the old material said that child of Ryo-ohki's was the only child.

I find MK remarkably consistent for the lengths of time that has passed.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 17, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
We are saying the same thing here. I'm saying that this is his vision of Tenko, or whatever she's called now, he's just updated and evolved it.

I'm clarifying that I don't think you can count this daughter in ~IF~ and Tenko as two seperate children of Tenchi. I think this is now the same girl.
*Edit, looks like I read it wrong, read it as if you were saying those 2 children are different kids from the ~If~ doujin.

And yea, I mentioned in the on the first place I believe that Kaji has really stuck to his guns. No crazy retcons or anything. Ain't surprising if its true he's had this world in his mind since high school, or I think that's what I remember hearing.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Harls on April 17, 2014, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on April 17, 2014, 09:24:06 PM
Ain't surprising if its true he's had this world in his mind since high school, or I think that's what I remember hearing.
That's his story and he's sticking to it, in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: ibawow on April 18, 2014, 04:40:42 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on April 14, 2014, 09:49:48 AM
Waiting for this to end up on TF's site and tumblr and facebook within 15 minutes.

555
let's them done it's
get an image and then what ?

copy and come back... copy again ?
funny ..  :heysexy:

for Ryo Ohki 3 daughter's it's a very long story .. in my mind

some thing ...like
washu use red crystal ball structure on her or not ?
same technology as Astral Copy of Jurai
same technology as crystals gem that re-create Doll in Isekai
same technology as tamashi ball that re-create A,B,C,D in DUAL!

Ryo Ohki born same year as Ryoko -5000 year ago
and She dead then Re-born on OVA1, upgrade on OVA2 ,
dead and Re-born again on OVA3 first loop before reset.

Still the Same Ryo Ohki ?

it's a full version of crystal ball technology
now washu understand and can done every thing

if not 3 girls .. I surprise.

come !
and .. copy .. it's again ...
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: antvasima on April 18, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
So are you saying that you think those aren't Ryo-Ohki's children, but rather crystals replicated by Washuu?
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: ibawow on April 18, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
this is my .. ryo ohki

ver 1 .. a crystal act like a master computer on space ship .. you call ryo ohki
.. and she have a lot slave computer .. it's all crystal

ver 2 .. after damage in ova1 she reborn .. ryoko put a cat you see on ova1 ch1
merge with her .. go to a ver 2 crystal with cat (but look a bit like rabbit) base
after that all slave computer can convert them self to use a cat body ..
it's look like every crystal base can go to a cat body ....

ver 3 .. after she merge with ma-su body from washu lab
go to a ver 3 crystal with cat with a human like body that can change her body age
only 1 ryo ohki a master can use a human body

ver 4 .. she dead and re-born on end of ova3 ch6

look in this way..
she a crystal base not like ryoko ...
ryoko is a real body with massive technology on her body

how tenchi can done .. arrrr.. in-out in-out jobs and then
have 3 girls that can turn to ... a cat ?
but the good point of this question is
why 3
why not 1 like fuku ...

that why I think .. some thing like
washu use her crystal tech to create a new one ..
a new one of washu crystal structure is 3 or 4 new girls

a crystal with cat and masu body with tenchi a bit of biotic gene
(3 girls has a brown eyes )
can not have a baby by her self or may be ....
if washu can done an experiment on REA more enough

...
like that ...

that why I said .. ok copy it's .. copy as you can .. go a head ..
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 18, 2014, 01:49:49 PM
I see what you're saying ibawow, but I think the difference this time is that Ryo-ohki is going through phases to explore her new humanity. Compared to the last few times where she pretty much just hatched eggs to reincarnate, this time Ryo-ohki actually births children, and this time actually considers herself "pregnant".

Her process probably was radically different compared to the other girls, but I think in the end, she and Tenchi did the deed, and she popped out offspring in one way or another. Probably why she's "glowing" in ~If~, cause she also like the other girls have Tenchi's bun in the oven, or however close that's possible.

But Noike was able to have chlidren, and considering she's basically a Masu product too, Ryo-ohki should have the possibility.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: جبريل 無道 on May 05, 2014, 08:30:43 AM
Well, Ryoko is also a Masu product as well.

Does anyone notice Tenchi/Ryo-ohki's 3 furball kids are going to school?  I mean really think about it?  How are the Masakis just "blending" into earth society anymore?  Would love to hear MK's explanation.  (Of course, they may be on Jurai for all I know.)
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: antvasima on May 05, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
Maybe they use chamoflage technology, similarly to that used by Ryoko Baluta when she disguised herself as Amane? Ryoko II and Ayeka II also have impossible hair colours and they go to Earth school after all.
Title: Re: Tenchi -If- Revisisted - New related pic came out upsetting assumptions!
Post by: Gaston on May 16, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Why Mihoshi's and Tenchi's daughter has Tenchi's skin in one image and Mihoshi's skin in another?  :staredog: