https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD9cMvxkOHY
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=aD9cMvxkOHY < here if you don't want to give the video views.
So I really enjoyed their One Piece & JoJo videos so when I saw Tenchi on there I was quite happy, that turned into disgust when I saw which forum they used for their research. Is there any way to let them know that some of their sources are quite lacking? I don't really remember reading about Kajishima being an anti-feminist or that Kiyone was part of the prelimary storyboard for the OVAs. This really reaks of bias from the Anti-OVA3/Universe is the only answer fandom side.
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on September 07, 2014, 11:06:31 PM
Is there any way to let them know that some of their sources are quite lacking? I don't really remember reading about Kajishima being an anti-feminist or that Kiyone was part of the prelimary storyboard for the OVAs. This really reaks of bias from the Anti-OVA3/Universe is the only answer fandom side.
They know exactly what's they are doing.
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on September 07, 2014, 11:06:31 PMThis really reaks of bias from the Anti-OVA3/Universe is the only answer fandom side.
Got it in one.
@2:33 Naoko Hasegawa is not considered "one of the three" creators of Tenchi Muyo. ANN clearly lists who gets the Original Creator credit: Hayashi and MK. The fact is that Hasegawa came in late to the production to write dialogue from storyboards and was told the entire story of TM she had to polish, and she liked it. She also did some editing, i.e. there is a storyboarded scene in ep5 after Kagato attacks, of Yousho telling Ayeka if she loved Tenchi, she should go with him. Hasegawa deleted that. Ever wonder why Tenchi tells Ayeka to take care of Grandpa but she's in the next scene with him on the ship? So that missing Ryoko planting a kiss on Tenchi works both ways with Ayeka getting shafted and being perpetually accused here in the States as seeing Tenchi only as a Yousho replacement. Creator Credit listed: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=919
So if Hasegawa is now a co-creator, why not executive producer Taro Maki? Or all those other people listed on ANN? Oh right, have to elevate the novels to an equal canon status.
Moreover, Hasegawa herself says MK created the Tenchi world and characters:
http://www.noneedfortenchi.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2938
@2:44, Naoko Hasegawa did not work as a story board artist. She hasn't storyboarded in her life. If she could draw storyboards, why does she need MK and Hayashi to draw illustrations for her first novel? She's a writer.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=29704
@2:56 While Hayashi and Kajishima did make illustrations for Hasegawa's book, Hayashi having sketched Kiyone first, and MK giving Kiyone her finalized GP uniform and bandana, there is no indication whatsoever either had direct creative input on the contents of the story nor "recognized" her story as canon and more likely did the drawings as a favor to her. Hasegawa wrote the Mirei episode of TU, does that make it Hasegawa novel canon? How silly.
@3:00 Tenchi's mother Kiyone Masaki appears in OAV1, episode 5, in Ryoko's flashbacks of Tenchi. First the American fanbase thought she was his Grandmother from a faulty dubbing translation (Okaasan is formal for Mother, Obaasan is formal for Grandmother). But the Japanese is clear and say mother when Tenchi is crying. There isn't an argument, mama Kiyone appeared first.
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Then the pro-TU/Achika portion of the American fanbase shifted it's goalposts and argue that Achika had a name first or other silly arguments. No one cares who had a name first but the character designer probably had one in mind when he drew her. Achika simply does not look like Kiyone, even with TMiL's later half-assed attempts to reconcile the hair color. Tenchi's mother appeared on product February 25, 1993. Well before May of that year.
The Kiyone Makibi hoopla feels just silly. Let's forget that MK presented Noike that year as well in Doujin, possibly summer Comiket, pictures to which Hasegawa was given access to well in advance going by her Tokimi comments, and well before Kiyone was animated in the Mihoshi Special in 1994.
But let's just ask: Why was the next girl's hair green? Because that was the only primary color left to use. That was a big thing in anime back then, for different main girls to have different colors to help differentiate them, especially for the extremely low (not even close to 640x480) resolutions back then. Why was the next girl Mihoshi's partner? Because that was the position left in the family dynamics. Ayeka and Sasami came as a pair. Ryoko and Washu are tied together. Mihoshi and....? Why is this girl going to be Mihoshi's "straight man"? Because of how Mihoshi is already established. The spot was vacant and somewhat inevitable, any new girl was likely going to be green haired and Mihoshi's more uptight partner.
After that, the two are different. Kiyone has next to no development in the series. What do people know of her? Nothing. Noike is argued to have too much although after OAV3, that intro period cooled down but I don't really think of her as a cop first because that's simply not how she was mainly presented as. I like Kiyone, but I just don't understand the "controversy".
@3:44 Out of context quote. MK never stated he altered the girls personalities specifically after OAV1 (video added this to support the Hayashi quote). That's just to discredit MK more and keep building up HH/NH as the two true creators. He said he altered the personalities while composing the story (back in the day). Every author and writer knows ideas evolve while working. He also didn't say there are no females like that. Just no real models for that many different kinds. Unless someone wants to point out irl space pirates and such? And keep in mind he lives in Japan, where both women and men had/have to conform to certain roles to stay in society's good graces, certainly moreso back when he was growing up. Much hoopla over nothing.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070705062657/http://www.aicanime.com/about/interview2_kajishima.html
QuoteT: Well, Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki stimulates people's imaginations with a strong lineup of female characters, each with their own unique personality. Another reason it has attracted so many people is the fact that the female characters are so "real", as if they are models in real life for each character.
K: Oh, of course there are no real models for that many different kinds of females with strong personalities. (laughs) But, all of them are my ideal women. And, of course, I did alter their personalities for balance when I composed the story. "Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-Ohki" is the manifestation of my libido for the past 30 years, before I started the series. (laughs)
After that, the beginning is mostly just known stuff from early art and the facts after the canon section is straight from the Tenchi 101 (the MK-Kuroda Q&A book), and another advertisement for one of TF's subbings. Petrea did one long ass anti-MK indoctrination video and TF commercial, and probably for free.
Maybe you should post this in the comments section?
You're welcome to it, Antva. I don't have the energy to make the replies to replies and my argumentation days in the fandom are largely behind me. The remaining people aren't moved by logic, they largely have their conclusions set on wishes and the rest of their perceived reality falls in place to support it via speculation and conspiracy theories. This goes doubly so for fandoms because of the emotional investment involved. Afterall, if someone's not emotionally invested, they probably wouldn't be fannish in the first place, after all these years. After the fairweather popularity fans of TM evaporated away, the distillation of what is now left are the ones I described.
Trying to convert some other faith over is not my idea of a good time. The japanese don't care, they extract what they can from the Japanese fanbase, and sell whatever they make later on for some lump sum licensing deal to the west. As that is the case, how popular it is with western fans doesn't impact them close enough to real time for it to matter to them.
I'm just gonna scan, draw, have some sarcastic fun and maybe watch AiTM unfold.
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on September 08, 2014, 04:58:25 AM
Petrea did one long ass anti-MK indoctrination video and TF commercial, and probably for free.
All while passing on a payday from Funimation, because she's a
serious actress with SAG cred and not one of the underpaid scabs Funimation normally hires. Because lets be honest, she is a paid
actress that did a job back in the 90s and does not know much about the product, nor care about it. If she really cared about it, she would have took the job Funi offered over a decade ago. All she cares about is getting paid what she feels she deserves and now that that well has long run dry, she's moved onto directly exploiting fans via public appearances & autograph sessions. And like any
celebrity making money on the indie scene, she's going to repeat back whatever nonsense the most devout & irate
fans say. This shit reminds me of prowrestling; same shitty fans & the same washed up talent working the same angle.
Not every fanbase can have a Jason David Frank, a working man's nostalgia idol.
That's way too harsh. Petrea seems like a very nice lady. And others likely wrote the script for her. In addition, after watching the episode, I found it perfectly nice and mostly harmless.
Haha holy shit shades :damn:
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on September 08, 2014, 10:43:21 AM
Haha holy shit shades :damn:
Some feelings bout to be hurt tonight.
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Loved the role so much, she gave it up to Kyle's mom. #neverforget
http://www.youtube.com/v/_3PUu88nOcw
I loves Shades he is like a live-action version of Statler and Waldorf. Shades, you are my idol.
Where Petrea made her anti-MK video? I always thought Kyle's mother was the best English voice for Ryoko and I prefer her voice in the Japanese and French dub anyway.
Quote from: shades of blue on September 08, 2014, 12:56:44 PM
Loved the role so much, she gave it up to Kyle's mom. #neverforget
http://www.youtube.com/v/_3PUu88nOcw
HOLY SHIT DID NOT KNOW. :conan:
Quote from: Gaston on September 08, 2014, 03:51:42 PM
I loves Shades he is like a live-action version of Statler and Waldorf. Shades, you are my idol.
Where Petrea made her anti-MK video? I always thought Kyle's mother was the best English voice for Ryoko and I prefer her voice in the Japanese and French dub anyway.
She didn't make an anti-MK video. She just read from a script, a quote that he didn't think there were any women with such strong personalities in real life. This is getting overblown for very little reason imho. I know that I am guilty of negativity as well, but we don't have to do it for every little thing.
Antva,
https://www.youtube.com/v/78g0SyQjU1s
Oookay...
I honestly am completely and utterly confused by the idea that these people are peddling that the girls' personalities changed so radically from OVA1 to 2. It... it just isn't there. If they're so uber mad about the harem ending, why not just, I dunno, prefer Universe or something? It's not that hard. Uni is p. good.
Also, as far as Petrea goes... people's opinions can change. Just gonna say that much. Maybe I'm naive, but knowing how Funi operates and given the lack of proper home PC recording equipment available at the time, eh... Unless she lived in Texas at the time I can understand why she might have turned it down. But if she did it's certainly questionable.
Quote from: Mewshuji on September 09, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
I honestly am completely and utterly confused by the idea that these people are peddling that the girls' personalities changed so radically from OVA1 to 2. It... it just isn't there. If they're so uber mad about the harem ending, why not just, I dunno, prefer Universe or something? It's not that hard. Uni is p. good.
Always been my issue. If you prefer Universe that's cool. But its like a broken record that we just got to keep hearing. I don't like this, Kajishima is doing something I don't like, etc.
We get it already, we've gotten it the past 10 years. Accept or move on.
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on September 09, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
Always been my issue. If you prefer Universe that's cool. But its like a broken record that we just got to keep hearing. I don't like this, Kajishima is doing something I don't like, etc.
We get it already, we've gotten it the past 10 years. Accept or move on.
This, most people by this time in their life have way more shit to worry about then how "muh chinese cartoon" didn't end the way they wanted.
Imagine living in a world where more adults would shake their manchild... one where these sad bitter individuals could finally disappear. :smith:
http://www.youtube.com/v/OKpo9wxSZaU
Quote from: Mewshuji on September 09, 2014, 04:16:55 PM
I honestly am completely and utterly confused by the idea that these people are peddling that the girls' personalities changed so radically from OVA1 to 2. It... it just isn't there. If they're so uber mad about the harem ending, why not just, I dunno, prefer Universe or something? It's not that hard. Uni is p. good.
They do prefer universe. Or so they claim. But Universe is kinda shallow, what you see is exactly what you get. I've never seen a TU (proper) discusion in the last dozen year except on Nagi, or a comment on the swimsuit competition and Kiyone's farmer's tan. Nothing on what happens, future developments, mysteries, etcetera. Even when Tenchi had over a dozen active forums a decade ago.
So The Ryoko Forever Fan Club v2.0 wants have even more elements from OAV, especially anything that makes Ryoko better. Instead of a 17ish year old Space Pirate, they'd rather have her as the 5,000 year old that attacked Jurai, battled Yousho, sealed in a cave and astral projected her way out to fall in love with Tenchi (more heartwarming than TU's love at first sight), Washu's 3 gems, which make her a demigoddess in the future. Plus Washu as her mom. What better way to coopt that then to declare a divergent continuity of novels based on OAV1 as canon? Especially by an author who admitted she wrote the first book with no clue who the 3 goddesses are, and then somehow edited it enough to include an illustration of them with Ryoko floating in the middle with some "Child of Destiny" title. (I'm pretty sure OAV1's ending hinted that type of role would be Tenchi's but whatever...)
It's also why they rejoice at quotes like Hayashi saying he thought of the show as essentially Tenchi/Ryoko and all the other girls just as filler and essentially background noise. It's all the other girls I like, so that essential mentality of that section of the fandom makes me sad:(
I think this view of the girls was the cause of the HH/MK split. MK designed all the girls and as he said they were all his idealized women. He even came up with an entirely new name, Ayeka from an old obscure word Aekanaru, meaning delicate or fragile for one. They were all interesting, deep characters in their own right, and not just filler for laughs or to be shoved aside.
If you look at OAV one, except ep3 to a degree, each one is quite Ryoko dominated even when the other girls get introed. MK personally storyboarded ep6 (and ep1), and we're seeing a slight more balanced show where all the girls act and not just Ryoko. Mihoshi is responsible for freeing Washu from ice. Ayeka carries on the attack and saves Ryoko with her logs at a crucial moment (and in turn Ryoko saves her iirc). Washu is introed (HH didn't want this as he thought it was too many girls too soon especially with Tsunami also appearing for the first time). And the ending, we get Ryoko wanting to hug Tenchi, but ending up everyone but her getting to Tenchi sooner, including her newly found mom and even her cabbit:)
OAV2 has its Ryoko moments, but no longer is she the dominant player around which the universe moves and whose actions it reacts to. And even what should be her big moment, Tenchi there gingerly holding the dying Zero, we have the real Ryoko in the background banging a glass test tube from inside XD
Edit: Spelling.
As someone who prefers Universe... yeah I can see it being shallower. Besides the fact that it's over and done with and most things necessary to explain have been, it is a pretty basic action/shonen/shoujo show. Nothing wrong with that, and the fact that it is a bit simpler makes me like it more. I do have to say I dislike how... simple they made Mihoshi. In the OVA/OAV/TMR (still unsure which is the preferable term to use) she's not really dumb, just clumsy, and happens to chance into good things through her clumsiness. I realize that was to play up the manzai routine between her and Kiyone but it still feels cheap.
But that the original series gives more power to Ryoko, oh, definitely, I can certainly understand why they'd want to warp it to their whims. But to be frank none of the girls' origin stories were really explained in Universe- well other than Sasami and Ayeka but those were pretty basic princess roles. Whereas in TMR, they all have distinct backgrounds. Which I definitely appreciate.
Anyway, as you guys said, in the end it is just all fiction. It's nothing to cause such drama over. Certainly fiction has the power to make us sad, or upset, or angry... but once it starts making you angry at other people, maybe it's time to calm down and think about why it's that damn important to you and if your life needs adjusting. I say this as someone who has had... moments like that myself. But I recognize I have had a problem and I'm taking active steps to overcome it. Seeing a psychiatrist and such.
Bwah, I dunno. :poopoo: Kinda went off on a tangent there, my bad. Still, think it's legit to say.
Mind you, I agree about that the complainers about OVA3 (especially "PenguinTruth") and the exclusive Ryoko favourisers can get extremely annoying with their obsessive complaining about old events. I just think that this video in particular came across like harmless fluff, and that we shouldn't take it out on Petrea, who only read from a script.
I definitely agree in regards to Petrea. I'm sure she had no idea what she was reading was a total load of crud. After all I certainly "believed" a lot of it at first until I got set straight. Really it was only the one line implying Kajishima was misogynist or something that made me think like "WAIT A SECOND, this smells like bullcrap."
I wouldn't take the Petrea hazing too seriously.
Quote from: antvasima on September 10, 2014, 03:14:01 AMI just think that this video in particular came across like harmless fluff, and that we shouldn't take it out on Petrea, who only read from a script.
I love Petrea's Voice Acting in this too-
http://www.youtube.com/v/ady5wUpIZDw
That's just stereotypical psychopathic filth, and had nothing to do with any of this. :ignore:
Petrea makes a basket-
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Well, that one was much better. I dislike when trolls, like the guy who made that video and others even worse, get fanatic about attacking and degrading anything nice that they can find.
Quote from: Zigra on September 10, 2014, 07:52:32 AM
Quote from: antvasima on September 10, 2014, 03:14:01 AMI just think that this video in particular came across like harmless fluff, and that we shouldn't take it out on Petrea, who only read from a script.
I love Petrea's Voice Acting in this too-
http://www.youtube.com/v/ady5wUpIZDw
I believe Matt Miller and Jay Hopper are singing really awesome in this one:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Qx4ymmAahBw
https://www.youtube.com/v/uYDhTpBNouk
Ah Kate T Vogt is like music to my ears. :emot-smugdog: :P
Auir shows how to post flash here:
http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=195.0
Ah thank you!
Quote from: Mewshuji on September 10, 2014, 01:34:40 PMAh Kate T Vogt is like music to my ears. :emot-smugdog: :P
Kate T. Vogt voiced Pen Pen! Ryoko's new mom!:
(Jump to 43 second mark - Mai Daughta!):
http://www.youtube.com/v/IL7aumOZfms&t=0m43s
https://www.youtube.com/v/v7z9Hsm7OkI
Ohhh goooosh, Penpen-kun please. :staredog:
Now I have the distinct image of Washu in a tuxedo. Hum...
So what the topic now? Posting random video? :emot-iiam:
Quote from: Gaston on September 10, 2014, 02:26:34 PM
So what the topic now? Posting random video? :emot-iiam:
Nah, we're still on about the DYK Anime episode. I just think they needed to get some shitposting out of their system. And now it's done!
So my comment isn't there anymore.....hmmmm..... But really its not entirely Petrea's fault that some biased people cyberstalked her to do a video for their shill website. Really at the end of the day not that many people give a damn but this video still spreads some misinformation and I just wished that more people would realize that and complain to DYKAnime. Perhaps next time they should choose an unbias source for their info like from that AstroGuy or whatever his name is....
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on September 12, 2014, 08:04:20 PM
So my comment isn't there anymore.....hmmmm..... But really its not entirely Petrea's fault that some biased people cyberstalked her to do a video for their shill website. Really at the end of the day not that many people give a damn but this video still spreads some misinformation and I just wished that more people would realize that and complain to DYKAnime. Perhaps next time they should choose an unbias source for their info like from that AstroGuy or whatever his name is....
THIS, Also his name is Astronerdboy.
Yup. He and myself are two of the only guys still here from the old days/the AIC board back in 1999.
Oh goodness the name AstroNerdboy brings back so many memories to the forefront. Wasn't the main site I went to for Tenchi stuff but I went there a lot.
I also liked True Sheol, Mary, Watotsu, Binaroid, and the rest. :(
I suppose that makes me, and maybe JGZinv the only ones left from the original AIC board then? It has been so long, and my parents overmedicated me for a few years. I don't remember so well anymore.
I'm just finished today work ... :emot-smugdog: (I mean .. my tenchi daily work and ... see this youtube link again ..)
Ah.. I'm :shepicide: of it .. again... every time I try to throw this away it's always come back to my eye
Okie .. ok .. fine!
turn back the time ....
before start Tenchi , he and hayachi san .. make a gentleman agreement
both of them will proposed tenchi to AIC as duo original creator... both of them is rookie at that time and
AIC take over by Pioneer at that time this new AIC studio need a complete new anime .. because the license problem.
original from BGC , all character is a girls ... and only 1 boy who can walk in that girls groups his name is MAGI ,
he is little brother of SYLIA... every girls actually older than him.
1992 summer , first OVA 1 of tenchi is on sale. 1 laser disc 1 chapter not over 45 min in LD Format standard.
OVA1 chapter 1,2 is ok
3 not ok somebody change it
4 is very not ok
5 is the end .. join between Masaki-Hayashi is complete broken, and Mr. Hayashi got a new one name El-Hazard.
chapter 6
if Masaki sensei not done that .. Our Washu is dead ... because Ms. Hasekawa .. will edit her out.
Reason...
Washu not supposed to appear in the last 15 minute before OVA is completely end.
at that time .. nobody knows .. even AIC main staff actually Don't knows
Tenchi is not Tenchi's story .. it is Washu's story .. and she edit Washu out ?
"unacceptable"..
since that day ..
the end of OVA 1 ch5
everyone can use tenchi name.. to make a new one.
guess what ?
Why Masaki sensei is the only one who create OVA2 .. with new all staff .. Mr. kuroda for example..
Hahaha..
only that
I don't mind some body copy my work .. even my summary ..
because he can not copy .. "me" .. a 100%
Quote from: ibawow on October 08, 2014, 11:42:41 AM
I'm just finished today work ... :emot-smugdog: (I mean .. my tenchi daily work and ... see this youtube link again ..)
Ah.. I'm :shepicide: of it .. again... every time I try to throw this away it's always come back to my eye
Okie .. ok .. fine!
turn back the time ....
before start Tenchi , he and hayachi san .. make a gentleman agreement
both of them will proposed tenchi to AIC as duo original creator... both of them is rookie at that time and
AIC take over by Pioneer at that time this new AIC studio need a complete new anime .. because the license problem.
original from BGC , all character is a girls ... and only 1 boy who can walk in that girls groups his name is MAGI ,
he is little brother of SYLIA... every girls actually older than him.
1992 summer , first OVA 1 of tenchi is on sale. 1 laser disc 1 chapter not over 45 min in LD Format standard.
OVA1 chapter 1,2 is ok
3 not ok somebody change it
4 is very not ok
5 is the end .. join between Masaki-Hayashi is complete broken, and Mr. Hayashi got a new one name El-Hazard.
chapter 6
if Masaki sensei not done that .. Our Washu is dead ... because Ms. Hasekawa .. will edit her out.
Reason...
Washu not supposed to appear in the last 15 minute before OVA is completely end.
at that time .. nobody knows .. even AIC main staff actually Don't knows
Tenchi is not Tenchi's story .. it is Washu's story .. and she edit Washu out ?
"unacceptable"..
since that day ..
the end of OVA 1 ch5
everyone can use tenchi name.. to make a new one.
guess what ?
Why Masaki sensei is the only one who create OVA2 .. with new all staff .. Mr. kuroda for example..
Hahaha..
only that
I don't mind some body copy my work .. even my summary ..
because he can not copy .. "me" .. a 100%
That's some fascinating perspective Iba, thanks for that <.<. Is this from the doujins?
I agree about that Tenchi Muyo is more Washuu's story than Tenchi's with all the extra novels counted in for full perspective.
Sounds like what I said 2 years ago.
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on November 07, 2012, 11:34:11 PM
And If Washu being a goddesses makes no sense, you completely missed the ENTIRE POINT of the OVA series. No, this story is not about 7 people in the Masaki house, they are just the catalyst. Its all about the Goddesses plan, procedure, results and conclusion. They ARE the plot, literally.
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on October 08, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
That's some fascinating perspective Iba, thanks for that <.<. Is this from the doujins?
No,. It's doesn't ..
It's came from many media mixed together,
.... I have some knowledge base and logic that completely weird to understand ...
One thing, I can say now is just .. Trust Me .. please !
for the example ...
the girl ... name ASUKA .. from evangelion ..
her actually name ... is
Kushana
she came from nausicaa .. manga.
no one suspect that ..
did you ...
Quote from: ibawow on October 10, 2014, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on October 08, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
That's some fascinating perspective Iba, thanks for that <.<. Is this from the doujins?
No,. It's doesn't ..
It's came from many media mixed together,
.... I have some knowledge base and logic that completely weird to understand ...
One thing, I can say now is just .. Trust Me .. please !
for the example ...
the girl ... name ASUKA .. from evangelion ..
her actually name ... is
Kushana
she came from nausicaa .. manga.
no one suspect that ..
did you ...
No, but I'm not into evangelion. Hope you post again sometime :)
Quote from: ibawow on October 10, 2014, 11:21:23 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on October 08, 2014, 03:20:24 PM
That's some fascinating perspective Iba, thanks for that <.<. Is this from the doujins?
No,. It's doesn't ..
It's came from many media mixed together,
.... I have some knowledge base and logic that completely weird to understand ...
One thing, I can say now is just .. Trust Me .. please !
I believe you. I've heard some of what you said before from when AIC had their forum and some Japanese fans came to the English board. However, if you can provide sources, it helps a lot. ^_^
You have a better memory than i do. I remember very little of the AIC forum days.