Hey all. So yeah, the title. I apparently missed the news about Tenchi OAV4, and actually found out about it when I was watching the Anime Abandon episode on Tenchi Muyo OAV a couple of weeks ago. It kinda blew my mind just how bad Bennett's information was. It was like he was watching a completely different series, calling out nonexistent plot holes, not understanding basic plot points (he was surprised that Washuu was a goddess and thought Sasami died for example) and spared no effort in completely lambasting the third OAV. Looking around, I found a podcast on the series, the Tenchicast, and I couldn't finish it it was so insufferable, though that one was a few years ago.
I had kinda hoped years ago, that over time, people would at least try to accept the OAVs for what they are and not what they wanted them to be. Are these isolated incidents, or is the fandom still split over the whole affair. Last time I was around here, I remember that there was a huge dislike between here and the Tenchiforum, has time healed the wounds a bit, or are we still at war so to speak?
It's also kind of a shame that there is no podcast or video defending OAV3, there are a few ripping it apart, but nothing explaining it, and helping people understand why it is what it is.
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 24, 2016, 09:13:56 PM
I had kinda hoped years ago, that over time, people would at least try to accept the OAVs for what they are and not what they wanted them to be. Are these isolated incidents, or is the fandom still split over the whole affair. Last time I was around here, I remember that there was a huge dislike between here and the Tenchiforum, has time healed the wounds a bit, or are we still at war so to speak?
I think "war" is the wrong term.
The failure of
Ai to lure in new fans or spark interest from AIC to continue in non-OVA continuities damped any fire in the leadership's interest in
Tenchi Muyo!, and the release of "IF" and announcement of Kajishima's continuing story direction has doused it completely, as they see a narrative dead-end.
Not that they don't love
Universe. The nostalgia goggles are strapped on pretty tight. ;)
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 24, 2016, 09:13:56 PM
I had kinda hoped years ago, that over time, people would at least try to accept the OAVs for what they are and not what they wanted them to be. Are these isolated incidents, or is the fandom still split over the whole affair. Last time I was around here,
Regarding what people think of the OAVs the Japanese have accepted them for what they are and moved on and are quite excited for OAV 4, what people think in the states is merely opinion and has no effect on what content we get in the future. As far as the question of people being split over OAV 3 here I really don't know, I would hope that people have moved on from something that happened over 10 years ago.
QuoteI remember that there was a huge dislike between here and the Tenchiforum, has time healed the wounds a bit, or are we still at war so to speak?
Not sure I haven't spoken to anyone over there, I won't go in to details of what happen since its just smearing but its hard to say if we could ever work together as nice as that would be :neg: .
Well if people don't like something, they're not going to like it more as time passes just because it's older. I think OAV3 was a huge misstep along with the -If- shenanigans. I cautiously await OAV4, but I don't have high hopes. Doesn't make me any less of a fan!
Well, there are some people who still go on and on about how much they hate the 3rd OVA, as soon as any news about Tenchi Muyo are mentioned.
Personally I am looking forward to the new series, hope that there will be a 5th OVA, and will buy the Blu-Ray collections when they come out.
However, I am still sad about that Mihoshi's voice actress died.
I really enjoyed it.
Anyway, sadly no, the flame still burning.
I would just like to mention something about Bennett the Sage. I think he's a good reviewer, but he didn't have access to any of the background material for TM. So of course the 3rd OVA will be confusing for him.
I don't hate the 3rd OVA. As I said before, I think most fans were upset because, instead of learning more about Jurain society or have Tenchi become more forward with the girls; a lot of the episodes' screen time felt like fluff. For example, we learn about Mihoshi's brother and his relationship with his subordinate. I didn't care about that. We learn Tenchi has an older sister; it doesn't matter to the plot or the dynamic of the cast, so why bother introducing her?
I wanted more of the main characters, I wanted to see stuff happening with them. A lot of the plot felt rushed. Some of the humor worked well, but I din't like the fact that. It didn't help matters that Noike, a new character who was basically filled Kiyone's role from the Universe continuity. pushed Ryoko and Ayeka to the background.
The first two OVAs had a good balance of slice-of-life and space opera tropes. The 3rd OVA was just too much of the former IMO.
Hopefully we have a lot more world-building and character development.
There were many problems with OVA 3. The series did introduce Mihoshi's brother Misao and her father Nakita. Nakita was the general who was talking about the Chobomaru with Mihoshi's own grandfather the Marshall. OVA 3 miss the chance to introduce fully Mihoshi's own family. I am very curious about learning who are Mihoshi's paternal grandparents. Nakita had decided to accept the Kuramitsu surname.
The Kuramitsu Family is one of the two most powerful families in the Seniwan Empire. The second most powerful family in the Seniwan Empire is the Royal Family. Both the Kuramitsu Family and the Royal Family do seem to share power and influence. The Royal family is a candidate for Nakita's family. If Nakita turns out to be a member of the Royal Family, Mihoshi will be a princess, even thru Nakita decided to become a member of the Kuramitsu family.
OVA 3 did explain what was going on. It didn't explain clearly about what the Chousin Sisters were doing. Even worst, the death of Tenchi's mother was treated as a bad joke. Tenchi's mother did overdone it with her final gift to her son.
One of the reasons why I want to see OVA 4 as a sequel to Ryo-Ohki is because I do feel that episode 20 was the last episode of the Tenchi Muyo: Ryo-Ohki series. As a sequel, OVA 4 will be a different series.
OVA 3 turn out to be a good series. It had its share of problems. The disclosure of the Chousin Sister's search for the powerful Kami help to save OVA 3 from being a medicore series. When it comes to OVA 4, I have come to expect one thing to happen. The only thing is Sasami going to school. Like I have stated before in another reply, Sasami's primary reason for going to school is for social reasons. If Sasami is going to school in OVA 4, she will need a best friend. The best name for Sasami's best friend can be Misao Amane.
:shygirl: :vrage: :how: :popcorn: :payup: :ragdoll: :huhm:
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 24, 2016, 09:13:56 PMhas time healed the wounds a bit, or are we still at war so to speak?
There is no war here, from our side, because it's understood that anime is
just entertainment. We like what we like what we like, without having to defend it or shit on the other thing at every turn years later. We like scanning and finding old art and releasing it for others to enjoy, even if the exact product it originates from isn't our thing. I don't even like OAV3 all that much, but I'm happy for other people who do. I'm even happy for people who liked Ai.
The splitting of the fandoms has been a complete blessing because it was a forced and unhappy and bickering marriage the entire time it was together back in the 00s, and got as boring as a religious war with each side arguing One True Path™. Sometimes people don't get along and that's okay, the internet is big enough. The two major sides are essentially fans of completely different products and sets of characters that share some similiarities but aren't the exact same, especially perceived future endings, so let's leave it that way.
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on May 25, 2016, 06:03:03 PM
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 24, 2016, 09:13:56 PMhas time healed the wounds a bit, or are we still at war so to speak?
There is no war here, from our side, because it's understood that anime is just entertainment. We like what we like what we like, without having to defend it or shit on the other thing at every turn years later. We like scanning and finding old art and releasing it for others to enjoy, even if the exact product it originates from isn't our thing. I don't even like OAV3 all that much, but I'm happy for other people who do. I'm even happy for people who liked Ai.
The splitting of the fandoms has been a complete blessing because it was a forced and unhappy and bickering marriage the entire time it was together back in the 00s, and got as boring as a religious war with each side arguing One True Path™. Sometimes people don't get along and that's okay, the internet is big enough. The two major sides are essentially fans of completely different products and sets of characters that share some similiarities but aren't the exact same, especially perceived future endings, so let's leave it that way.
I suppose, but back in the days of the TenchiML, in the before time, in the long long ago, it seemed like most fans liked both the OAVs and the TV series, and were united in their hatred of Tenchi in Tokyo. The biggest flame wars were about whether or not your particular girl was going to be the OTP. You could have a preference for one or the other, but it wasn't like the vitriol that came out after the 3rd series.
OAV 3 definitely has its issues. No doubt. It's my least favorite of the 3 for sure, with the first series being pretty much the best by a wide margin. I tend to think its flaws are more related to execution than actual story, for example you could have probably condensed the chobimaru stuff into one episode, and the flashbacks in episode 1 were wasted time. What did did do well though was expand the world, and answer the question of what Tenchi was.
Quote from: GP cadet 87 on May 25, 2016, 02:58:27 PM
I would just like to mention something about Bennett the Sage. I think he's a good reviewer, but he didn't have access to any of the background material for TM. So of course the 3rd OVA will be confusing for him.
I don't hate the 3rd OVA. As I said before, I think most fans were upset because, instead of learning more about Jurain society or have Tenchi become more forward with the girls; a lot of the episodes' screen time felt like fluff. For example, we learn about Mihoshi's brother and his relationship with his subordinate. I didn't care about that. We learn Tenchi has an older sister; it doesn't matter to the plot or the dynamic of the cast, so why bother introducing her?
I wanted more of the main characters, I wanted to see stuff happening with them. A lot of the plot felt rushed. Some of the humor worked well, but I din't like the fact that. It didn't help matters that Noike, a new character who was basically filled Kiyone's role from the Universe continuity. pushed Ryoko and Ayeka to the background.
The first two OVAs had a good balance of slice-of-life and space opera tropes. The 3rd OVA was just too much of the former IMO.
Hopefully we have a lot more world-building and character development.
The thing is, I think the OAV was hurt by being released 10 years after the previous ones. Not to mention being tied to GXP, and expecting you to know characters from that series as well. Noike didn't bother me, primarily because she actually brings more to the table than Kiyone did. Kiyone, as per her appearances, was essentially a foil for Mihoshi and not much else. She filled the role of the normal character, and had a pretty dope character design. I like her and all, but I do feel her importance is kinda overstated. Not to mention her presence Flanderizes Mihoshi. But if you loved her, I get why not having her around might irk you.
But I digress... I guess I understand not liking the third OAV, I just tend to hate rants that don't even critique it on its own terms, or show an active misunderstanding of the series. Bennett's review had a LOT of that. To be fair it didn't help that he was watching the Dub, something that pretty much destroyed a lot of the nuance in the dialogue and got a lot of things wrong, but he really did mess up on some major points. Even stuff that was literally explained in the episodes itself. For example, I do NOT get how anyone could think Sasami died after watching the Sasami and Tsunami episode, it flat out says she didn't, that is the whole point of the episode. Or not understanding that Washuu was a goddess, it is right there on the screen in OAV2.
I guess it just bums me out that so many people are shitting on the 4th OAV before it even comes out. And don't get me started on the apparent dislike of Geminar, that show is Kajishima's best put together project by far.
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 25, 2016, 07:18:36 PMI suppose, but back in the days of the TenchiML, in the before time, in the long long ago, it seemed like most fans liked both the OAVs and the TV series, and were united in their hatred of Tenchi in Tokyo. The biggest flame wars were about whether or not your particular girl was going to be the OTP. You could have a preference for one or the other, but it wasn't like the vitriol that came out after the 3rd series.
Well right there you hit upon it. The majority of the absolute vitriol stems less from what occurred in OAV3 itself and more from the slow realization that MK is fully pro-harem and won't fulfill a singular pairing, of mainly a very loud and persistent OTP crowd.
It's no coincidence that the same crowd that spent years absolutely shitting upon OAV3 for not including Kiyone Makibi... pretty much said next-to-nothing about AiTM not including her AFAIK, although her inclusion would make much more sense in a Negishi continuity. It's also why OAV2 was considered perfectly great by most until they started hating anything Kajishima, then suddenly some considered it crappy after-the-fact. It's rationalization.
The harem issue caused the split.
I find it interesting that the anti-harem sentiments somewhat mirror the direction politics in the USA are taking.
On one side, you have pushes for acceptance and rights for LGBT and even a startling ruling on bigamy (which was later reversed on a technicality).
On the other side... well, bigotry, ignorance, and the dreams of a lost glory that won't return.
Funny how politics mirrors the fanbase, huh?
QuoteI suppose, but back in the days of the TenchiML, in the before time, in the long long ago, it seemed like most fans liked both the OAVs and the TV series, and were united in their hatred of Tenchi in Tokyo. The biggest flame wars were about whether or not your particular girl was going to be the OTP. You could have a preference for one or the other, but it wasn't like the vitriol that came out after the 3rd series.
I'm willing to point at the younger Toonami generation for misunderstanding and nostalgia glasses.
I'll add my 2¢, and this is purely anecdotal information. When OVA 3 came out from FUNimation, my FAQ site immediately rose up in traffic. What I learned is that all of the people e-mailing me to ask me questions (and there were lots back then) were new fans to the franchise who'd been introduced to Tenchi via OVA 3. Because we'd already seen the split in older fans because of OVA 3, I was curious to see what these fans thought about OVA 3 (if they didn't specifically mention something in their e-mails), and without exception, all of them loved OVA 3 and were looking forward to watching OVA 1 and 2 (if they hadn't already gone out and watched it).
Now, as I said, this is just anecdotal evidence, but I do believe that folks with no emotional ties to the original OVA series going back to the TenchiML (Heh! I used to be a part of that!) and AIC's English forum (and other such forums) had no problems with OVA 3. Of the old school fans, the fans who were versed in the additional, canon information that came from Kajishima-sensei during the years between OVA 2 and OVA 3 (and who'd watched GXP) liked OVA 3, even if they found flaws in it. The other old school fans who weren't that versed and didn't care to become versed seemed to be the ones who hated OVA 3 the most, more so if they had vested theories that didn't pan out.
I've defended OVA 3 for years while admitting it is flawed (and I will ALWAYS hate how the battle between Tenchi's harem and the GXP Special Forces was handled) and I was hammered for YEARS by this all over the Internet. In more recent times, that has all but stopped (though I know I'm still "watched"), but yeah, I know how insane the butthurt and rage some folks have over OVA 3.
Well I only watched OVA3 about a month or two ago and it was pretty much straight after OVA1+2. I bet a lot of people had nostalgia goggles on back then, twelve years is quite a long time. My problems with OVA3 were just down to poor pacing and I thought the tone was somewhat different from the first two OVA's. Other than that though I just accepted this was where the story was going and that if it didn't make sense to me I should read the background material. I will say though, I hope OVA4 is not like OVA3.
I think they need to decide on a design for Ryoko's ears also, they're mighty morphing.
Hmm, wasn't OVA 3 suppose to be a 12 episode series?
I could be wrong.
We in the West speculated that this would be the case, especially after there was a six month delay between episodes 3 and 4. But that was never officially the case.
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on May 25, 2016, 08:01:16 PM
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 25, 2016, 07:18:36 PMI suppose, but back in the days of the TenchiML, in the before time, in the long long ago, it seemed like most fans liked both the OAVs and the TV series, and were united in their hatred of Tenchi in Tokyo. The biggest flame wars were about whether or not your particular girl was going to be the OTP. You could have a preference for one or the other, but it wasn't like the vitriol that came out after the 3rd series.
Well right there you hit upon it. The majority of the absolute vitriol stems less from what occurred in OAV3 itself and more from the slow realization that MK is fully pro-harem and won't fulfill a singular pairing, of mainly a very loud and persistent OTP crowd.
It's no coincidence that the same crowd that spent years absolutely shitting upon OAV3 for not including Kiyone Makibi... pretty much said next-to-nothing about AiTM not including her AFAIK, although her inclusion would make much more sense in a Negishi continuity. It's also why OAV2 was considered perfectly great by most until they started hating anything Kajishima, then suddenly some considered it crappy after-the-fact. It's rationalization.
The harem issue caused the split.
Yeah, the revisionist perspective of OVA2 baffles me. It's not quite as good as OAV1, which was generally paced better, but it was still pretty great. The Kiyone blinders though, you would think she was a main character and not a foil. I think what gets me is that, the information that it was basically going to be a Harem ending was out there LONG before OAV3 came out. It wasn't even that hard to find, and even if you didn't know that, episode 13 was there to ease people into the idea of multiple wives, and GXP just went all out.
Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on May 26, 2016, 03:18:17 PM
I'll add my 2¢, and this is purely anecdotal information. When OVA 3 came out from FUNimation, my FAQ site immediately rose up in traffic. What I learned is that all of the people e-mailing me to ask me questions (and there were lots back then) were new fans to the franchise who'd been introduced to Tenchi via OVA 3. Because we'd already seen the split in older fans because of OVA 3, I was curious to see what these fans thought about OVA 3 (if they didn't specifically mention something in their e-mails), and without exception, all of them loved OVA 3 and were looking forward to watching OVA 1 and 2 (if they hadn't already gone out and watched it).
Now, as I said, this is just anecdotal evidence, but I do believe that folks with no emotional ties to the original OVA series going back to the TenchiML (Heh! I used to be a part of that!) and AIC's English forum (and other such forums) had no problems with OVA 3. Of the old school fans, the fans who were versed in the additional, canon information that came from Kajishima-sensei during the years between OVA 2 and OVA 3 (and who'd watched GXP) liked OVA 3, even if they found flaws in it. The other old school fans who weren't that versed and didn't care to become versed seemed to be the ones who hated OVA 3 the most, more so if they had vested theories that didn't pan out.
I've defended OVA 3 for years while admitting it is flawed (and I will ALWAYS hate how the battle between Tenchi's harem and the GXP Special Forces was handled) and I was hammered for YEARS by this all over the Internet. In more recent times, that has all but stopped (though I know I'm still "watched"), but yeah, I know how insane the butthurt and rage some folks have over OVA 3.
Yeah, I think I read something similar on your blog. OAV3 has major issues, but none of them compared to realizing that no, Tenchi was not going to ditch the other girls to marry whoever you thought was going to be the OTP (most likely Ryoko) and move on from there.
It is interesting as even though Tenchi was the first of the modern harem shows, it really followed its own rules. Most people expect a harem show to have one overall main romance, and maybe one real rival, with the rest of the harem around for situational comedy and eye candy. To be fair in 1992, the closest we got to an actual harem series was probably Ranma, and it was clear that, fanfiction aside it was all about Ranma and Akane. Before that, it was all about the triangle.
I think the other thing that put people off too is that even in Tenchi TV, the galactic civilization is pretty similar to earth in how things work and how people act. In GXP and to a lesser extent OAV3 we learn that nope, the Galaxy is full of crazy people by earth standards, and the Juraians are crazy by even galactic standards. Seriously, Tenchi's entire family is batshit insane. I just kinda write it off as near immortality and absurd power levels giving you a very different perspective on life.
Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on May 28, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
We in the West speculated that this would be the case, especially after there was a six month delay between episodes 3 and 4. But that was never officially the case.
I thought that he mentioned that episodes got cut, in on of his doujins. I might not be remembering right though.
QuoteI thought that he mentioned that episodes got cut, in on of his doujins. I might not be remembering right though.
"not going to continue on the story as far as originally planned." (http://g.e-hentai.org/s/2ac8917614/330194-14)
Certainly implied.
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 29, 2016, 01:46:55 AM
Yeah, the revisionist perspective of OVA2 baffles me. It's not quite as good as OAV1, which was generally paced better, but it was still pretty great. The Kiyone blinders though, you would think she was a main character and not a foil. I think what gets me is that, the information that it was basically going to be a Harem ending was out there LONG before OAV3 came out. It wasn't even that hard to find, and even if you didn't know that, episode 13 was there to ease people into the idea of multiple wives, and GXP just went all out.
Oh, the information that the OAV would end in a harem is even older than you realize. Maybe Jibril or Astronerdboy can show you if they have it, but there was a piece of doujin artwork that MK drew
shortly after OAV 1 that showed Tenchi marrying
all of the girls. Tokimi is even among this group that he is marrying, which told us early on that the "Tokimi is a villain" theory that got tossed around a lot back in the old days wasn't true.
This one?
(http://s17.postimg.org/ezuw4na5r/041.jpg)
That's the one, yes :)
Quote from: Zigra on May 29, 2016, 08:05:17 PM
Quote from: bishopcruz on May 29, 2016, 01:46:55 AM
Yeah, the revisionist perspective of OVA2 baffles me. It's not quite as good as OAV1, which was generally paced better, but it was still pretty great. The Kiyone blinders though, you would think she was a main character and not a foil. I think what gets me is that, the information that it was basically going to be a Harem ending was out there LONG before OAV3 came out. It wasn't even that hard to find, and even if you didn't know that, episode 13 was there to ease people into the idea of multiple wives, and GXP just went all out.
Oh, the information that the OAV would end in a harem is even older than you realize. Maybe Jibril or Astronerdboy can show you if they have it, but there was a piece of doujin artwork that MK drew shortly after OAV 1 that showed Tenchi marrying all of the girls. Tokimi is even among this group that he is marrying, which told us early on that the "Tokimi is a villain" theory that got tossed around a lot back in the old days wasn't true.
Quote from: Guy183 on May 30, 2016, 01:36:02 AM
This one?
(http://s17.postimg.org/ezuw4na5r/041.jpg)
Damn. Interesting pic primarily because Noike is missing though. But it pretty much just sealed the deal right there. Though to be fair to fans, one could easily explain away the image if you wanted to. Kinda crazy when you think about it.
I will agreed with the ideal OVA 3 was hurt as a result of it coming out ten years after OVA 2 and being tied to GXP. OVA 3 had its flaws. The introductions of Tenchi's older sister Tennyo, his maternal grandmother Airi, and Noike could have been done in the first episode.
One of the flaws of OVA 3 was how Mihoshi acting like if her Universe self and she had change universes. OVA 3 had blown the chance of telling us what happen to Mihoshi before OVA 1. While OVA 3 had a few blown opportunities and flaws, it had turn out to be a good series.
:shygirl: :shygirl: :vrage: :payup: :ragdoll: :swink: :popcorn: :whatif: :rwhy:
Quote from: Harls on May 29, 2016, 02:01:41 AM
QuoteI thought that he mentioned that episodes got cut, in on of his doujins. I might not be remembering right though.
"not going to continue on the story as far as originally planned." (http://g.e-hentai.org/s/2ac8917614/330194-14)
Certainly implied.
Yeah, I remember that now. Thanks for the reminder. ^_^
Regarding the harem ending, thanks @Guy183 for that reminder. I remember back in the day having my theory on the Tenchi x Ryoko ending and no other ending was acceptable. It was Jirbril and True Sheol on the old AIC forums (mostly) who debated with me about this and pointed out how the other material, including the old doujinshi image of the harem ending, was Kajishima-sensei's true ending.
I was butt hurt for a little bit when I realized they were right ('cause I was REALLY wed to the Ryoko x Tenchi ending), but then I got over it in short order. I didn't attack Jibril or True Sheol for telling folks about a harem ending. I didn't start saying "Tenchi sucks and so does Kajishima" because I didn't get the pairing I wanted. If anything, once I saw there was an actual story-related reason for Tenchi to be in a harem, I was OK with it.
Quote from: takahata on June 01, 2016, 03:19:09 PMOVA 3 had blown the chance of telling us what happen to Mihoshi before OVA 1.
Yes, exactly. Before
OVA 3 came out, there was talk out of Japan that Kajishima-sensei was going to write a fourth
Shin Tenchi Muyo! novel to cover Mihoshi and her family, where we'd find out what had happened to her prior to
OVA 1. Then when
OVA 3 was announced, the word was the 4th novel was scrapped as the information would be revealed in
OVA 3. Unfortunately, all we got was a massive tease that something happened and a look at Mihoshi's brother Misao (and his relationship with Mashisu), but we didn't get what we thought we'd get.
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I know this is off topic, but is this gif from
Pretty Sammy?
Yeah, there are you, me, and Jibril left from the old AIC board. Are there any others still around? Would either of you like to become administrators at the Tenchi Muyo wiki btw? If so, I can fix that.
Also, for those who have been a part of this community for more than 5-6 years, my apologies for being batshit insane/severely psychotic for quite a while. I have recovered considerably since then.
Well I was around on the old AIC but I tend to drift in and out of the community. Dear god that feels like a lifetime ago.
It's been almost a generation. The gap has been a factor in the fandom.
Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on June 02, 2016, 06:44:59 PM
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I know this is off topic, but is this gif from Pretty Sammy?
I believe so. I'm not sure if it's from the original 3ep OVA or from "Magical Project S" though. I believe it's the former due to the art style. Probably from when she "transforms" into her "pretty sammy" costume. She has those flower things in her hair in those series.
Thank god I got over my issues with OVA 3. (Granted I needed to watch the sub to do so) I will say that while I enjoyed it more after a reviewing, it is still a bit of a mess.
So looking forward to Mihoshi's tale. But vis a vie.
I was never an AIC board guy. I was Tenchi ML all the way. I remember when finding a translation of Tenchi 101 was hard to do, and you had to know the right people because it was considered piracy or something. Good times.
If I recall correctly, wasn't it a Japanese guy that ran TenchiML along with some other mailing lists?
Quote from: bishopcruz on June 07, 2016, 12:09:20 AM
I was never an AIC board guy. I was Tenchi ML all the way. I remember when finding a translation of Tenchi 101 was hard to do, and you had to know the right people because it was considered piracy or something. Good times.
What happened is that the main translator and original host of the translation worked for Pioneer, whom received a complaint about one of their employees translating said novel from the publisher and in response said employee was told to take it down and to ask that all copies of it be destroyed or he'd be looking for a new job.
Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on June 14, 2016, 01:07:49 AM
If I recall correctly, wasn't it a Japanese guy that ran TenchiML along with some other mailing lists?
It was Hitoshi Doi if I remember right, I think he was also involved in the Maison Ikkoku fandom, but it's been like 20 years, it's kinda hard to remember.
Quote from: shades of blue on June 15, 2016, 09:08:37 AM
Quote from: bishopcruz on June 07, 2016, 12:09:20 AM
I was never an AIC board guy. I was Tenchi ML all the way. I remember when finding a translation of Tenchi 101 was hard to do, and you had to know the right people because it was considered piracy or something. Good times.
That makes a surprising amount of sense actually. Memories indeed.
What happened is that the main translator and original host of the translation worked for Pioneer, whom received a complaint about one of their employees translating said novel from the publisher and in response said employee was told to take it down and to ask that all copies of it be destroyed or he'd be looking for a new job.
Hitoshi Doi -- yes, that's the guy.
Little late responding here, searching for a job can do that, but i lurked around the AIC boards a couple times in high school but never really got deep into the back story until about '04/'05. As far as older fans come into it from the Toonami days i can attest to the nostalgia my group is dedicated too, although i've always been of the mindset that you shouldn't get mad with what an author does to their creation because it doesn't fit into your view of what they should have done, otherwise you don't like the creation, you just stole the characters for your own story.