Useless Tenchi

Anime => Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki => Topic started by: Eff Efferson on February 22, 2018, 03:14:47 PM

Title: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on February 22, 2018, 03:14:47 PM
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
who.....
what......

anyway
they have Sherry Lynn on board and it's a Screen Actors Guild approved production so ryoko's original voice actor might be in it

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Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WaitoKon on February 22, 2018, 04:46:46 PM
 :bravo: Does Petra know about this yet?
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ricin on February 22, 2018, 06:14:10 PM
They are trying to kill the Tenchi Fandom in the US on the way out the door
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on February 22, 2018, 07:39:18 PM
That's kinda cool but wasteful at the same time. I don't remember the OG girls having a whole lotta screentime.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on February 22, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
An ai Tenchi and OVA 4 package deal makes sense to me. can't see them just selling ai tenchi by it's self in the USA?
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 22, 2018, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on February 22, 2018, 07:39:18 PM
That's kinda cool but wasteful at the same time. I don't remember the OG girls having a whole lotta screentime.
Wasteful how?

Quote from: Dr.Soviet on February 22, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
An ai Tenchi and OVA 4 package deal makes sense to me. can't see them just selling ai tenchi by it's self in the USA?
Isn't Ai close to the length of a single cour anime? They could get away with selling it on its own.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 22, 2018, 11:21:23 PM
https://twitter.com/TheMonaMarshall/status/962126597875625988 (https://twitter.com/TheMonaMarshall/status/962126597875625988)
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on February 23, 2018, 02:29:16 AM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on February 22, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
An ai Tenchi and OVA 4 package deal makes sense to me. can't see them just selling ai tenchi by it's self in the USA?

^ I approve.
Both camps get what they want (more Tenchi).

btw, AMI are the ones who dubbed OVA 3 for Funimation.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WaitoKon on February 23, 2018, 03:06:58 AM
How interesting, but the inconsistency of style between Ai and OVA 4 to any prior Tenchi content might confuse some folks if it was pitched as new Muyo.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 23, 2018, 07:41:50 AM
Selling Ai and OVA 4 together doesn't really make much sense. It would be like selling Universe and OVA 2 together. Selling a standalone series with a piece of a completely unconnected series would just confuse people who buy it. It would make more sense to do an OVA 3 + 4 bluray release like they did with OVA 1 and 2.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on February 23, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 22, 2018, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on February 22, 2018, 07:39:18 PM
That's kinda cool but wasteful at the same time. I don't remember the OG girls having a whole lotta screentime.
Wasteful how?

From what I've gathered lotta people didn't like the show, giving me the impression that it flopped.

Is this their way of salvaging it?
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 23, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
It did flop in Japan, but who knows how well it will do in the west. If the people dubbing it can at least make their money back then I wouldn't call it a waste. Apparently, they think they can make some money from it because they licensed it.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on February 24, 2018, 04:17:44 AM
It might work over here.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on February 24, 2018, 07:22:21 AM
Oh dear... I've got a lot of things to say about this and most of them are negative (Save for one thing at the end of this post which is a good thing).  First, I don't even know what in Tsunami's holy name they're thinking here.  We get a dub for the terribad anniversary season that made Power Rangers Super Megafarce (See what I did there?) of all things actually look good (And believe me, Megaforce as a whole was BAAAD) before we get OVA 4!?  WHAT IS WRONG WITH THEM!  The only way I will even REMOTELY agree with this is if a dub of OVA 4 is also being worked on right now and released at or around the same time.  They don't even have to package Ai and OVA 4's dubs together.  As long as we get both at or around the same time, I'll be okay with this, because then we won't have a complete fail.

Quote from: Ricin on February 22, 2018, 06:14:10 PMThey are trying to kill the Tenchi Fandom in the US on the way out the door

Not if we get OVA 4 at the same time.  And they'd better do it, because otherwise it's a legit BATTLESHIP SUNK.

Quote from: Monster Man on February 22, 2018, 07:39:18 PMThat's kinda cool but wasteful at the same time. I don't remember the OG girls having a whole lotta screentime.

And that's the thing.  The OG girls don't get much screentime at all.  So it's more wasteful than cool... especially when you consider the fact that the episodes are only 5 minutes apiece and that every 5th episode save for the finale is a recap.  Some people tend to forget that detail about 5 minute episodes and recaps every 5th episode... it's effectively the same thing as fine print on a crooked contract.

Quote from: Dr.Soviet on February 22, 2018, 08:55:55 PMAn ai Tenchi and OVA 4 package deal makes sense to me. can't see them just selling ai tenchi by it's self in the USA?

Ryo-Okay put it the best way...

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 23, 2018, 07:41:50 AMSelling Ai and OVA 4 together doesn't really make much sense. It would be like selling Universe and OVA 2 together. Selling a standalone series with a piece of a completely unconnected series would just confuse people who buy it. It would make more sense to do an OVA 3 + 4 bluray release like they did with OVA 1 and 2.

Selling them together wouldn't make sense.  The best thing they can do here is to release both at the same time, but on their own.

Quote from: Harls on February 24, 2018, 04:17:44 AMIt might work over here.

It won't.  As soon as the fans find out that the new girls effectively worf the OG girls worse than Sakuya did in Tenchi in Tokyo, they're gonna be throwing @#$% all over the place.  Shin already has a bad enough rep over here, and when they see that we're getting what is effectively TiT V2.0, they're gonna have a field day with it, and it's going to end VERY badly.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 22, 2018, 11:21:23 PMhttps://twitter.com/TheMonaMarshall/status/962126597875625988 (https://twitter.com/TheMonaMarshall/status/962126597875625988)

WAIT WAIT WAIT... Marshall said that she's voicing Hachiko, but makes no mention of Ryoko?  I guess that's confirmation that we're getting Burchard back...

(https://i.imgur.com/NNeLKh8.jpg)

MM HMM.

I'm okay with this, because you KNOW that means she'll also be on board for OVA 4's dub.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on February 24, 2018, 07:43:33 AM
Quotewe're getting Burchard back...

Yes, according to her besties at TF. They broke out a new podcast episode (https://youtu.be/QSwmYuVhbZw) for the occasion. :roll:

P.S.- not planning on watching it.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on February 24, 2018, 09:06:27 AM
Quote from: Harls on February 24, 2018, 07:43:33 AMYes, according to her besties at TF. They broke out a new podcast episode (https://youtu.be/QSwmYuVhbZw) for the occasion. :roll:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohs7IaRTSocpCYodq/giphy.gif)

Yup, that's the best news that could have come out of this whole thing.  Bring on the OVA 4 dub!

Quote from: Harls on February 24, 2018, 07:43:33 AMP.S.- not planning on watching it.

Likewise in the case of the Ai dub.  Not going near that one with a nine and a half foot pole.  After hearing that Burchard is back where she should be, though, I'm definitely watching the OVA 4 dub.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on February 24, 2018, 09:36:07 AM
Naturally, I meant the podcast.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on February 24, 2018, 11:58:59 AM
 :nThey need to redub ova 3 first they made it make no sense
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on February 24, 2018, 05:23:40 PM
Quote from: Harls on February 24, 2018, 09:36:07 AMNaturally, I meant the podcast.

As soon as I saw that it was TF, I was also like "yeah, not even gonna bother watching this podcast".  They were probably their usual selves and hating on OVA 4 and so forth while singing all the praises in the world for Ai (Which is the opposite of what the situation actually is - we folks are civilized individuals that sing the praises for the OVAs and Kajishima's own work while giving Ai the SNK final boss tier constructive criticism that it absolutely deserves around here).

Quote from: Fap_fapperson on February 24, 2018, 11:58:59 AMThey need to redub ova 3 fiest th3y made it make no sense

^ This.  And also to make sure that Burchard is voicing Ryoko as it should be while they're at it, so that way it's consistent to the voice cast of OVA 4.  Marshall just doesn't work as Ryoko and that's the bottom line, cause WarOmni (And a bunch of other people) said so.  *Place sound of glass breaking followed by Stone Cold Steve Austin's theme song here*

Real talk though, I expect them to do the Ai and OVA 4 dubs before redubbing OVA 3.  IF they redub OVA 3.  You never know lately, because we didn't expect them to EVER go near Ai... and guess what, they did.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on February 24, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
I wonder if they could recut the show so it plays for a seamless 30-minute run instead of that awkward five.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on February 25, 2018, 04:00:34 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on February 24, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
I wonder if they could recut the show so it plays for a seamless 30-minute run instead of that awkward five.

that would be nice
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on February 25, 2018, 03:30:58 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on February 25, 2018, 04:00:34 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on February 24, 2018, 10:28:05 PM
I wonder if they could recut the show so it plays for a seamless 30-minute run instead of that awkward five.

that would be nice

I was thinking the same thing... but then I did the math and was like FUUUUUUUU- when I saw the total number of episodes that would be.  WARNING: Number crunching up ahead.  :babble:

First.  We know there are 50 episodes, and each episode is 5 minutes long.  That's a total of 250 minutes.  If you divide that by 30, you get 8.333333333333333... so yeah, about 7 or 8 episodes.

BUT... then you also have to consider that with the sole exception of the finale (Episode 50), every 5th episode is a recap.  That's 9 episodes right down the tube, so when not counting the recaps, that's 41 episodes.  A total of 205 minutes.  Divide that by 30... 6.833333333333333, which is about 6 or 7 episodes.

And that's the biggest problem.  6 to 8 episodes is only about half of a usual seasonal anime.  Those tend to be between 12 to 15 episodes, most frequently 12 (Examples - Kantai Collection and High School DxD Season 1 were both 12 episodes during their TV runs), but there are those rare cases where a seasonal anime will run for longer (Examples - Utawarerumono: The False Faces had 25 episodes, Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card Arc will have 26).  And that of course isn't considering constantly running shows such as Dragon Ball Super, One Piece, and Naruto / Boruto, or year long shows such as the seasons of Digimon, Precure, Super Sentai, and Kamen Rider (The latter two aren't anime but I'm using them as points of reference).

Conclusion - It's a good idea on paper... but then you'd only get 6 to 8 episodes, depending on how they handle the accursed recaps.  Basically, selling Ai traditionally like they do other seasonal TV anime just won't work, even if they do bunch episodes together.  Not enough material.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WaitoKon on February 25, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
You guys haven't seen the supercut on YouTube? Check the now-defunct Tenchiforum TV channel.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on February 25, 2018, 04:06:27 PM
It's not defunct, just hibernating. ;)
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 25, 2018, 05:58:50 PM
Quote from: WarOmnimon on February 25, 2018, 03:30:58 PM
Conclusion - It's a good idea on paper... but then you'd only get 6 to 8 episodes, depending on how they handle the accursed recaps.  Basically, selling Ai traditionally like they do other seasonal TV anime just won't work, even if they do bunch episodes together.  Not enough material.
OVA 3 is sold on its own and it's 7 episodes. Photon was just rereleased in December and it's 6 episodes. You guys are overthinking this.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WaitoKon on February 26, 2018, 02:39:55 PM
I wonder why they didn't make Ai Tenchi a printed First Edition Live Action Roleplay sourcebook, with the videos just providing sample player actions.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on February 27, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
Okay, now that I've had time to think about how I'm gonna word this a bit, I'll give you all a quick analysis as to why I think Ai won't sell over here.  Let's look at Tenchi in Tokyo and Ai's general receptions.

Tenchi in Tokyo - From what I noticed, it's at least semi-tolerated in Japan for the most part, but fans over here hate it for the most part, mostly given the monster of the week setup and Sakuya worfing the main girls... at least the mains are still relevant here and still do stuff.

Ai Tenchi Muyo! - But in Ai?  NOPE.  The worfing is worse than in Tokyo.  The new girls (I'll refer to them as "Momo and Friends" just because) worf the main girls completely into the ground.  And then there's elements missing from the series altogether that are usually there (Ryo-Ohki being relegated to nothing more than a cameo at the end of final episode for example).  If Sakuya's worfing in Tokyo was pooped on over here, what do you think is gonna happen with Ai?  SPOILER ALERT - We're gonna have fans ragequitting on the entire franchise and that might kill the chances of OVAs 4 and 5 getting a dub.  Especially if Funi pulls a "we'll dub OVA 4, yes, but only if Ai sells" stunt.

Short version, they shouldn't have even bothered with Ai and should have gone straight to OVA 4 and eventually OVA 5, and redubbed OVA 3 while they were at it.  This is effectively the same thing as committing franchise suicide (At least as far as the western audience is concerned) given that Ai is after all worse than Tenchi in Tokyo, which gets hated on over here so hard.

Okay... replies.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 25, 2018, 05:58:50 PMOVA 3 is sold on its own and it's 7 episodes. Photon was just rereleased in December and it's 6 episodes. You guys are overthinking this.

Good point, but in a way, that's like comparing apples to oranges.  Both OVA 3 and Photon's episodes are 30 minutes in length.  Ai's episodes, unless wrapped together in the way that I described, are 5 minutes in length.  There's also the fact that Photon's re-release was NOT handled by Funimation, and then the fact that every 5th episode of Ai is a recap save for the finale... yeah, it might not even BE 6 episodes depending on how Funi tackles those accursed recaps.

Yes, your point is valid.  It can sell this way, but the question in the big picture is, would Funi be willing to take such a huge risk and chance killing the chances of OVA 4 getting dubbed (Which coupled with a redub of OVA 3 clearly would have been the MUCH better option here), especially now that Burchard is back (And yeah, Ryoko doesn't do much in Ai given that Momo and Friends effectively worfed her and the other main girls, so it's kind of a waste)?  Most of Funi's releases lately are all seasonal anime with 10 to 15 episodes a pop, and as I noted, Photon's re-release was NOT Funi.  So yeah, apples and oranges I'm afraid... and my point still stands, they should have skipped Ai and just gone right to OVA 4.

Quote from: WaitoKon on February 26, 2018, 02:39:55 PMI wonder why they didn't make Ai Tenchi a printed First Edition Live Action Roleplay sourcebook, with the videos just providing sample player actions.

^ OHOHO.  Craziest super awesome random idea ever... and you know, I didn't even think I'd want something like this until now.  Put Ai's story in the hands of the fans rather than an incompetent director like Negishi.  Yeah, that would have been a better idea, actually.  I would have been for this.  :)
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 02:32:12 PM
You're acting like the girls play a significant role in OVA 4. Ryoko and the rest are just as insignificant in OVA 4 as they seem to be in Ai (I've never actually watched Ai past the first few episodes so I can't say for sure.) One thing Ai benefits from is not relying so heavily on novels with no English translation. And from the few episodes of Ai I did watch it seemed like an okay place for people new to the series to jump in. OVA 4 certainly isn't a good place for new people to start watching.

From what I've seen Universe seems to be more popular in the west than the OVA's. OVA 3 seems to have really burned a lot of people over here. So if Universe is more popular it would make more sense for them to license Ai because it was also directed by Negishi.

I know Photon wasn't released by Funimation, but you were acting as if releasing an anime with less than 12 episodes is impossible. If length was really a factor than anime movies would sell like shit.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on February 27, 2018, 03:31:17 PM
Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 02:32:12 PM
You're acting like the girls play a significant role in OVA 4. Ryoko and the rest are just as insignificant in OVA 4 as they seem to be in Ai (I've never actually watched Ai past the first few episodes so I can't say for sure.) One thing Ai benefits from is not relying so heavily on novels with no English translation. And from the few episodes of Ai I did watch it seemed like an okay place for people new to the series to jump in. OVA 4 certainly isn't a good place for new people to start watching.


there are actualy like 3 ai tenchi novels... i refuse to even buy them, or translate them, or google translate them, or create a section on my website acknowledging their existence.   the section for them just says WHY GOD WHY over and over
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 03:45:47 PM
I'm aware of the Ai novels, but they don't have a lot of significance to the anime's plot, do they?
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on February 27, 2018, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: WarOmnimon on February 27, 2018, 12:50:17 PM
^ OHOHO.  Craziest super awesome random idea ever... and you know, I didn't even think I'd want something like this until now.  Put Ai's story in the hands of the fans rather than an incompetent director like Negishi.  Yeah, that would have been a better idea, actually.  I would have been for this.  :)

If we're being fair here, the concept seemed fucked from the get-go. The entire thing felt like it was suppose to be different than what we got but AIC for some reason felt it necessary to throw Tenchi within' the mix. The unorthodox setup, being constrained around the idea that it's a glorified commercial for tourism would damper any well thought out plans for something legit.

I'm not a 100% on the politics behind it, but that's the gist of it I think. All I'm saying is that under ordinary circumstances it wouldn't have been like this. 
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on March 01, 2018, 01:56:44 PM
Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 02:32:12 PMFrom what I've seen Universe seems to be more popular in the west than the OVA's. OVA 3 seems to have really burned a lot of people over here. So if Universe is more popular it would make more sense for them to license Ai because it was also directed by Negishi.

OBJECTION.  Your point about OVA 3 is valid, but when you look at Universe and Ai, there's a HUGE difference.  Universe didn't worf the main girls at all.  Ai worfed them to the ground and back.  And the only season that REALLY worfed the main girls at any level prior was Tokyo... which is HATED over here.  Not considering certain factors, bro.  You're just picking and choosing details and you can't do that.

As for OVA 3 burning the fans, it's as Based Fap said.  It probably has to do with the dub being off in so many ways.  That's why I'm with him in terms of it needing a redub.  Funi needs to redub OVA 3, end of story.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 02:32:12 PMI know Photon wasn't released by Funimation, but you were acting as if releasing an anime with less than 12 episodes is impossible. If length was really a factor than anime movies would sell like shit.

Wasn't meant to come off that way.  My point was that most of Funi's releases are 12 episodes or more aside from movies, so them attempting to do this will be more difficult than usual.  Never said it wouldn't sell because of length, I'm just saying that it's not what Funi is used to dealing with.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 27, 2018, 02:32:12 PMRyoko and the rest are just as insignificant in OVA 4 as they seem to be in Ai

...DOUBLE OBJECTION.  At least the main girls are doing legit relevant stuff from time to time during OVA 4.  Ai?  Not so much.  They just welcome Tenchi back home a couple of times, say a couple of things here and there... but legit NOTHING in terms of the overall main plot until the endgame.

Quote from: Monster Man on February 27, 2018, 07:09:46 PMIf we're being fair here, the concept seemed fucked from the get-go. The entire thing felt like it was suppose to be different than what we got but AIC for some reason felt it necessary to throw Tenchi within' the mix. The unorthodox setup, being constrained around the idea that it's a glorified commercial for tourism would damper any well thought out plans for something legit.

I'm not a 100% on the politics behind it, but that's the gist of it I think. All I'm saying is that under ordinary circumstances it wouldn't have been like this.

That's what I always thought too.  The fact that the main girls got worfed worse than they did in Tokyo, the setting being completely different from the OVAs, Universe, and even Tokyo... yeah, probably something political and they just decided to shoehorn Tenchi into it.  It probably would have worked better if it wasn't Tenchi at all.  Basically replace Tenchi with a regular male protag in the same spot, have the whole endgame involving Momo, Beni, and Hachiko actually being from Feudal Japan or something (The way Jurai was portrayed in the end seemed more Feudal Japan than Jurai), and call it something else.

Yeah... that would have actually worked, honestly.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on March 04, 2018, 08:07:37 PM
If they were doing this ten years ago I would have been on board but due to me not really being interested in dubs anymore and that Ai Tenchi to me is low down on the list of Tenchi media I care about, I'm not too hyped.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on March 05, 2018, 01:32:03 AM
More pleased that it's licensed.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on March 10, 2018, 02:49:31 AM
Jennifer Darling and Kate Vogt (Ayeka & Washu) are the only ones not returning...
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on March 10, 2018, 02:56:22 AM
 What can you do?  :emot-iiam:

:gonk:
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on March 10, 2018, 03:39:15 AM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on March 10, 2018, 02:49:31 AM
Jennifer Darling and Kate Vogt (Ayeka & Washu) are the only ones not returning...

but why  :emot-commissar:
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on March 10, 2018, 07:50:39 AM
 ms.vogt is pretty busy doing shakespear these days.
https://twitter.com/osfashland/status/827953654737022982
https://twitter.com/osfashland/status/957378954553446401

dunno about ms.darling
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on March 10, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
Good on KT.  :bravo:
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: جبريل 無道 on March 14, 2018, 07:34:54 AM
Relying on memory, but AiTM is like around 180 minutes without the pointless recaps.  Will they sell it in a 2 or 3 parts of about 8/9 compiled episodes?

It will probably do better here than it did in Japan, but still remain a largely forgotten anime.  I hope Momo gets a good voice.

It's amazing that it still takes 3/4 years for it to come over, especially since it wasn't some blockbuster they tried to milk as long as possible.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on March 14, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on March 10, 2018, 07:50:39 AM
ms.vogt is pretty busy doing shakespear these days.
https://twitter.com/osfashland/status/827953654737022982
https://twitter.com/osfashland/status/957378954553446401

dunno about ms.darling

Probably pays more I can't blame her for that, Voice acting here isn't that great pay wise :neg:
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on April 06, 2018, 07:08:11 PM
Funimation just made it official today... and no word on OVA 4.  *Shakes fist at Funimation*  Yup, they blew it.  Tenchi's gonna be deader than dead over here before we ever see OVA 4.  As I said, they should have bought them both over together to prevent that from happening.  And of course, the possibility of Funi holding OVA 4 hostage behind Ai having good sales now exists.  As soon as most fans find out that this series was received worse than Tenchi in Tokyo even in Japan, they're not gonna bother.  MAYDAY, MAYDAY!

Anyway, moving on from that before it becomes a rant.  If anything, I'm most curious about who will be providing the voices for Momo & friends (The only one we know is Hachiko, Mona Marshall has that role), and hoping that they get good portrayals... but that's about it at this point.

Quote from: Fap_fapperson on March 10, 2018, 02:49:31 AMJennifer Darling and Kate Vogt (Ayeka & Washu) are the only ones not returning...

We have a reason for Vogt not returning, so that I can understand.  But why isn't Darling back?  They'd better have a good replacement lined up for Ayeka, because her voice in GXP just didn't work.  I will say this now... we'd better not get Rebecca Forstadt again.  She was just as off key as Ayeka as Marshall was as Ryoko.  Washu's voice in GXP's dub, from what I heard of it, wasn't as off key, so if they bring Jessica Gee (Or even bring Luci Christian over from the dub of Sasami: Magical Girls Club) back, that's okay with me.

So yup, this dub now definitely seems like "one step forward, two steps back".  The step forward being Burchard's return, the two steps back being Vogt and Darling being gone.  Hopefully the English voices for the new girls were chosen properly, because getting Ryoko's original voice back but at the same time losing both Washu AND Ayeka's original voices is effectively going to be a sucker punch to the gut for most people (And already is for me).
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 08, 2018, 04:19:39 AM
QuoteBut why isn't Darling back?

Hopefully, she's enjoying retirement. It seems she hasn't done any work since 2015.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201373/
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on April 08, 2018, 09:38:15 AM
Quote from: Harls on April 08, 2018, 04:19:39 AMHopefully, she's enjoying retirement. It seems she hasn't done any work since 2015.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0201373/

Ah, that answers that question.  Thanks.

But yeah, my biggest concern with Ai's dub right now is the voices.  Specifically who will be voicing the new girls as well as Ayeka and Washu.  Hopefully, Ayeka and Washu's new voices are good (And as I said, they'd better not bring back Rebecca Forstadt for Ayeka - that was just as bad as Mona Marshall's Ryoko), and hopefully Momo and friends get good voices as well.

As much as I dislike Ai, I am curious about its dub to see who the English voices are gonna be (And listen to them).  Especially Ayeka and Washu's given that they'll likely also be involved in the (Hopefully) inevitable dub of OVA 4.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on April 08, 2018, 02:40:38 PM
I vote Gilbert godfrey as the voice of ayeka
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on April 09, 2018, 12:47:02 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on April 08, 2018, 02:40:38 PM
I vote Gilbert godfrey as the voice of ayeka

(https://media.tenor.com/images/9cab7c8ee39c4977b3cf5f1c13155e9f/tenor.gif)

Had to.  You referenced Gottfried, so I had to bust this GIF out.  :D

Real talk though, after careful consideration... I'd vote for Lauren Landa as being Ayeka's new voice.  Landa did a good job voicing Karin in Street Fighter V, and both Ayeka and Karin have the oujosama laugh.  Not to mention Karin's English voice sounds like it would work nicely for Ayeka as well.

Just don't bring Forstadt back.  PLEASE.  For the love of PETE.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 17, 2018, 03:31:03 AM
(https://derf9v1xhwwx1.cloudfront.net/image/upload/q_60/cprd/catalog/product//a/i/ai-tenchi-muyo-the-complete-series-shorts-bd-dvd_fun-digital_1.jpg)

July 10th.

In shorts format, 200 minutes runtime.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on April 17, 2018, 05:21:28 AM
i got funimation now so i bet they will release it before that on there
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 17, 2018, 05:38:33 AM
I know how they typically work; they'll put a little part up 6 weeks before physical release, but the whole thing comes out on release day.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 24, 2018, 03:11:26 AM
The full cast has been posted: https://www.funimation.com/blog/2018/04/23/ai-tenchi-muyo-english-cast-announcement/


CHARACTER   CAST
Tenchi Masaki-   Matt K. Miller
Momo Kawanagare-   Juli Maddalena (Sakuya!)
Beni Kinojo-   Cindy Robinson
Tori Fueyama-   Laura Post
Ryoko-   Petra Burchard
Ukan Kurihara-   Melora Harte (Seto)
Yuki Fuka-   Brianne Brozey
Sasami-   Sherry Lynn
Ayeka-   Cherami Leigh
Hachiko-   Mona Marshall
Hana Saryu-   Dorothy Elias-Fahn
Rui Aoi-   Stephanie Sheh
Washu-   Karen Strassman
Mihoshi-   Rebecca Forstadt

CREW   
ADR Director   Steve Kramer

ADR Script:
Steve Kramer
Melora Harte
Deborah Crane
Scott Page-Pagter

Recorded at   CDP Sound – Burbank CA
Produced by   Del Casher AMI Inc
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WarOmnimon on April 24, 2018, 07:09:00 AM
First of all... +1 to Harls for bringing Ai's dub cast to our attention.  Alright, let's give my thoughts...  *Rolls up sleeves*

Honestly, I actually like all of these choices... that is, except for Cindy Robinson as Beni.  Yo Taichi portrayed Beni as having a tough girl voice and so forth, and knowing Robinson's prior record, it's all cheerful and upbeat girls such as Makoto from BlazBlue (A role that she NAILED!) and so forth.  Sorry, but I just cannot see that working.  (Off topic but relevant to voice actor discussions; if they ever give ToHeart 2 an English dub, Robinson as Konomi or I RIOT!)  On the other hand, they thought out the other new girls nicely, methinks.  I wouldn't be surprised if Mona Marshall's portrayal of Motoko in Love Hina had something to do with her being cast as Hachiko, to be honest.

As for Cherami Leigh (AKA Asuna) being Ayeka's new voice?  As I said, I would have preferred Lauren Landa given her portrayal of Karin in Street Fighter 5; Landa would have hit it out of the park.  However, the thought of Leigh taking over the role didn't cross my mind at all and I can see her being a good Ayeka as well, so no complaints there.  And Karen Strassman as Washu also works given her past record.  Not sure if it would work the same for her adult form in OVA 4 should everyone carry over, but yeah...

Short Version - All good choices, except for Beni.  That's the one role that they went and dropped the ball on.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 25, 2018, 05:11:14 PM
QuoteYo Taichi portrayed Beni as having a tough girl voice and so forth... Sorry, but I just cannot see [Cindy Robinson] working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbosYHwSVLI
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: WaitoKon on April 27, 2018, 01:15:15 AM
I may have helped with the cast selection >___>
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on April 27, 2018, 03:07:18 AM
I wonder if Burchard can still voice Ryoko at this point. She's been out for a long ass time.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on April 27, 2018, 03:11:34 AM
She uses her normal voice, it should be fine.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: KiddManiac on May 02, 2018, 02:02:55 PM
So, for everyone asking "Why would Funimation pick up Ai? It makes no sense", this is actually something I've got some knowledge in.

When it comes to anime, most licenses depreciate in value over time. Popular shows get snapped up real fast, because the longer you wait to release a legal version, the more potential customers will be lost to piracy. Unpopular shows, or ones that're seen as 'less marketable" can go unlicensed for years, or decades, and over time, the amount of money that a Japanese company is willing to sell the rights for will steadily decrease (there are some rare exceptions).

I don't have access to hard data, but the general consensus seems to be that Ai sold fairly poorly in Japan, and it's also almost four years old. So right now, the license for Ai is probably dirt cheap. Chances are, Funi grabbed Ai because it was so cheap...and it may've also been part of a bundle deal. When a company outside Japan wants to nab a popular show, the Japanese rights holders will sell it on the condition that the foreign company also buys the rights to two or three other, less popular shows. There's a good chance that Funimation wanted some other show, but Ai was thrown into the mix as an add-on.

Of course, this is mostly speculation, but it's what makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on May 02, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: KiddManiac on May 02, 2018, 02:02:55 PM
So, for everyone asking "Why would Funimation pick up Ai? It makes no sense", this is actually something I've got some knowledge in.

When it comes to anime, most licenses depreciate in value over time. Popular shows get snapped up real fast, because the longer you wait to release a legal version, the more potential customers will be lost to piracy. Unpopular shows, or ones that're seen as 'less marketable" can go unlicensed for years, or decades, and over time, the amount of money that a Japanese company is willing to sell the rights for will steadily decrease (there are some rare exceptions).

I don't have access to hard data, but the general consensus seems to be that Ai sold fairly poorly in Japan, and it's also almost four years old. So right now, the license for Ai is probably dirt cheap. Chances are, Funi grabbed Ai because it was so cheap...and it may've also been part of a bundle deal. When a company outside Japan wants to nab a popular show, the Japanese rights holders will sell it on the condition that the foreign company also buys the rights to two or three other, less popular shows. There's a good chance that Funimation wanted some other show, but Ai was thrown into the mix as an add-on.

Of course, this is mostly speculation, but it's what makes the most sense to me.

Thanks I had a hunch it was ultra cheap and didn't sell well, makes sense.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Kuugen on May 03, 2018, 01:43:00 AM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on May 02, 2018, 05:59:38 PM
Thanks I had a hunch it was ultra cheap and didn't sell well, makes sense.
I can't find much evidence to point to one way or another, but if tourism rates in and around Takahashi, Okayama saw a boost then Ai did exactly was it as supposed to do.  According to this (http://www.mlit.go.jp/common/001141408.pdf), the growth rates in the Chugoku region at large were pretty flat in 2015 (Ai was broadcast in 2014), and guestroom occupancy rates for Okayama prefecture specifically were 57% which doesn't look like things were booming to me but I wouldn't know without more historical trend data for comparison.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on May 04, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=DZdM92dhLnI

mmmm my ears... they burn
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on May 04, 2018, 06:41:49 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on May 04, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=DZdM92dhLnI

mmmm my ears... they burn

I stick with my subs, :shepicide:
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Kuugen on May 04, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on May 04, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=DZdM92dhLnI
Sherry Lynn (Sasami) & Matt Miller (Tenchi) still have it.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Dr.Soviet on May 04, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: Kuugen on May 04, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on May 04, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=DZdM92dhLnI
Sherry Lynn (Sasami) & Matt Miller (Tenchi) still have it.

They sound fine, not really in to the new people...
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Monster Man on May 08, 2018, 06:01:19 PM
Quote from: Kuugen on May 04, 2018, 08:23:26 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on May 04, 2018, 02:50:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=DZdM92dhLnI
Sherry Lynn (Sasami) & Matt Miller (Tenchi) still have it.

Feels good hearing Matt Miller again; I'm sure they're holding off the reveal for Ryoko's voice just to get that hype around it.

But I don't know who could've been a good replacement for Washu. The voice here is played too straight and not enough eccentricity.

Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on June 03, 2018, 05:34:15 AM
I just noticed Funimation put up the first 4 episodes on their site Tuesday, watched them tonight. It works well so far.
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Eff Efferson on June 17, 2018, 04:59:16 AM
It's just as bad as it was in japanise...  a let's watch tenchi get raped and the main harem get cucked extraveganza now in english
Title: Re: they are dubbing ai Tenchi
Post by: Harls on June 17, 2018, 06:51:34 AM
Quotemain harem get cucked extraveganza

I'm OK with this.