Useless Tenchi

Anime => Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki => Topic started by: antvasima on May 29, 2015, 02:47:29 AM

Title: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on May 29, 2015, 02:47:29 AM
An editor has threatened to stub and possibly delete all of the Tenchi Muyo related articles on Wikipedia.

I would very much appreciate if you could help to find sources for the article, so it can be kept around.

It would severely harm the franchise if it had no Wikipedia page, or at best a very limited one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tenchi_Muyo!#WP:V (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tenchi_Muyo!#WP:V)
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: جبريل 無道 on May 29, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
What exactly counts as a source in this case?

Fan pages?  Web pages?  Books? 
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: shades of blue on May 29, 2015, 08:12:08 AM
They should delete it, the whole Tenchi Muyo wikitrollya entry turned into one huge clusterfuck after one of those retards thought it'd be "best" to combine every series entry into one massive article. #andnotafuckwasgiven
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on May 29, 2015, 08:16:19 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on May 29, 2015, 07:59:42 AM
What exactly counts as a source in this case?

Fan pages?  Web pages?  Books?
Fan pages do not count. I think that it has to be reviews from news outlets and the like that count as notable per Wikipedia standards.
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on May 29, 2015, 08:19:34 AM
Quote from: shades of blue on May 29, 2015, 08:12:08 AM
They should delete it, the whole Tenchi Muyo wikitrollya entry turned into one huge clusterfuck after one of those retards thought it'd be "best" to combine every series entry into one massive article. #andnotafuckwasgiven
The character pages were regrettably deleted a few years ago due to not being considered notable enough, but if you consider the pages to be bad, then please help out by improving them instead. Outright deleting them will likely harm the franchise, as people who are interested or hear about it will not be able to find basic information through the most used information source in the Internet.
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: جبريل 無道 on May 29, 2015, 08:41:47 AM
Why don't you put the Tenchi Wikia page on External Links or the like?
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on May 29, 2015, 08:56:44 AM
It might be a good idea later on, but for the moment what matters is that the Wikipedia entry page survives at all.
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: BlackAeronaut on June 01, 2015, 11:37:49 PM
Why has this editor suddenly decided that there shouldn't be a TM article on WP?  Sounds to me like someone doesn't like TM and is looking for excuses.

Okay, so I heard someone somewhere say that ANN's stuff about TM, especially the OVA series, was totally off.  Is any of this true?  Because they're the only source I can think of that WP would accept as good material for citation.
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on June 02, 2015, 02:01:07 PM
I don't know. I think that ANN was not accepted when I tried to use it as a reference for the Tenchi Muyo wikipedia page a few years ago.
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on June 05, 2015, 01:59:10 PM
Here is a page listing all of the acceptable references: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Online_reliable_sources
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: BlackAeronaut on June 05, 2015, 10:49:52 PM
Well, apparently ANN is on the list of acceptable sources... provisionally, anyhow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Online_reliable_sources#Situational

QuoteAnime News Network - Anime news site with extensive release information and nearly 1,000 anime and manga reviews
A note about using Anime News Network as a reference: ANN is divided into sections of varying quality. For news, reviews, and release information, ANN is a reliable source and close to being a newspaper of record for anime and manga. The "fan interest" pieces, however, may be pulled directly from unreliable sources and generally should not be used - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news is the "reliable" feed. In addition, because the encyclopedia portion is user-edited, that information is not reliable by Wikipedia standards. (Project discussions: 1 2 3 4, RS/N discussions: 1 2)
Title: Re: Help needed to find references for the Wikipedia article
Post by: antvasima on June 06, 2015, 01:22:05 AM
Yes, the news and review sections seem acceptable. If anybody would like to help improve the articke by lookijng for sources, feel extremely free to do so.