Useless Tenchi

Not a lot of details, other than AIC doesn't seem to be involved. EXNOA in in charge of production. Never heard of them.

https://natalie.mu/comic/news/506353 (https://natalie.mu/comic/news/506353)
(https://i.imgur.com/KcH4EGc.jpg)

I thought I pasted the link. Bloody heck! Thanks for posting it.

New main website

https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5yAcDOtaw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu5yAcDOtaw)
Ad on the Kinematics youtube channel.

From what I gathered, Kinematics is the actual animation studio developing the new show, EXNOA owns Kinematics, and google says that EXNOA is a video game company that used to be called DMM Games. Kinematics only has a few anime credits it seems, and they are all for CG animation. So here is hoping we don't get a low budget CG GXP anime.

Kinematics credits: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=13708 (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=13708)

WOOOOO! It's HAPPENING! Sure, a part of me is afraid that this will  be shit, but that stupid non-canon show will finally be wiped from existence!

Even better, light novel distribution companies might be interested in picking up the series if the show does well!

Edit: Damn, I jumped the gun. It looks like the Paradise War novels (or at least the beginning arc) are being told from Seina's perspective, which is why it's  being called a 'GXP project'

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2022/12/22-1/tenchi-muyo-gxp-anime-gets-30th-anniversary-series

Still great news though. The fact that Seina looks older but has his GXP uniform brings a smile to my face.

Edit 2: The more I think about it, the more excited I get. Not only will continue the GXP storyline, we will be watching ALL NEW MATERIAL, that even Japan's Tenchi fans have not seen yet!

Called it! I figured that if we were getting something new, it would be either Tenchi Muyo! GXP or Paradise War related... and as it turns out, it's related to both, LOL.

It's also worth noting something else in the link from Natalie that was already posted by Ryo-Okay... we actually got a Tenchi Muyo! 30th anniversary logo, ladies and gents! There are two versions of it in that post, one gold plated and the other plain black. *Proceeds to change his profile photo*

Quote from: WarOmnimon on December 23, 2022, 02:44:33 PM
Called it! I figured that if we were getting something new, it would be either Tenchi Muyo! GXP or Paradise War related... and as it turns out, it's related to both, LOL.

I was hoping for novels to be adapted, but that would run contrary to what Kajishima-sensei does. The only thing he has ever redone is GXP in novel form, making story changes as needed. Everything else Kajishima-sensei has done has been original. So while I was hoping for a Paradise War adaptation, I don't think we'll get it. Instead, we'll get this GXP prelude, taking place after the GXP novels, but before the Paradise Wars novels.

Unless I'm very much mistaken here.

This is great but, I thought that Toei own the rights to AIC material and I'm not seeing that mentioned anywhere here?

Quote from: deadspacepirate on December 24, 2022, 06:38:41 AM
This is great but, I thought that Toei own the rights to AIC material and I'm not seeing that mentioned anywhere here?

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that! It is quite interesting that Toei isn't mentioned in any of this given that they own the rights. I was about to mention that just now, but you beat me to it, LOL.

An incredible christmas gift. :discoursechef:

Hope the main Tenchi cast is going to be a decent part of it seeing as they're featured pretty prominently in the trailer. Sasami looks to be a teen again so I guess we know the time period it takes place in.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on December 22, 2022, 11:49:15 PM
google says that EXNOA is a video game company that used to be called DMM Games. Kinematics only has a few anime credits it seems, and they are all for CG animation. So here is hoping we don't get a low budget CG GXP anime.

That'd mean they're the same people responsible for making that short lived Bridal Wars mobile game. Kajishima must have really hit it off, with a couple people there, back when they commissioned those original character cards. Tho that game didn't last long and no one outside Japan got to enjoy it, it certainly looked fun. So I guess it's in better hands than it'd be at AIC.

Quote from: shades of blue on December 26, 2022, 09:54:12 AM

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on December 22, 2022, 11:49:15 PM
google says that EXNOA is a video game company that used to be called DMM Games. Kinematics only has a few anime credits it seems, and they are all for CG animation. So here is hoping we don't get a low budget CG GXP anime.

That'd mean they're the same people responsible for making that short lived Bridal Wars mobile game. Kajishima must have really hit it off, with a couple people there, back when they commissioned those original character cards. Tho that game didn't last long and no one outside Japan got to enjoy it, it certainly looked fun. So I guess it's in better hands than it'd be at AIC.

holy shit he's alive, was thinking about you the other day.

Quote from: deadspacepirate on December 24, 2022, 06:38:41 AM
This is great but, I thought that Toei own the rights to AIC material and I'm not seeing that mentioned anywhere here?

I think Kajishima-sensei owns the copyrights to Tenchi stuff now. He gets credited as a copyright owner, and that was true for the True Tenchi Muyo! novels I adapted. I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean that AIC loses the rights over the stuff they produced. Subsequently, Toei owns 50% of that. However, if Kajishima-sensei outright owns the Tenchi Muyo! copyright, and he no longer has an agreement with AIC, then he can get any company he wants to produce his stuff. And considering how bad things were for AIC, I'm not surprised he went elsewhere.

Also, Kajishima-sensei may not have wanted to deal with Toei.

Quote from: Tensami on December 25, 2022, 06:36:00 PM
Hope the main Tenchi cast is going to be a decent part of it seeing as they're featured pretty prominently in the trailer. Sasami looks to be a teen again so I guess we know the time period it takes place in.

In anime terms, between OVA 4 and OVA 5 is what I'm hearing. All of the anime clips in the promotional video were taken from both of those series. That too suggests that Kajishima-sensei has copyright control over Tenchi in order to use AIC video.

While I'm still excited for this new GXP series, as I mentioned in a video on my other YouTube channel, expect a high entry bar, especially if the GXP series is set after the entire novel run.

Comiket is only a few days away, so hopefully we'll get a bit more info then.

Seina's look seems to coincide with his appearance in OVA4-4. That might be a good place to start it.

But I keep wondering just how involved he really will be. If you look at that final scene, the only new one, it more suggests Seina's and Tenchi's groups gathering together to wish luck to Tsukiko, who's standing at a literal gateway with the impression that she's the one going on this journey.

Another idea is that Kajishima may just use this to get out of finishing the novels in a way that has to wrap up everything.

By starting an anime halfway into the Renza story, he can maybe finish the "sci-fi" side of things in an anime and leave the novels to deal with his magic adventures- or something.

They could probably montage the hell out of the events of the early novels to get things up to speed and make this a true continuation.

Well, It is still 2022. So 30 year anniversary project is still a go.

Its usually a good thing when the creators have the copyrights. That being said, there's nothing that says there wasn't some kind of subcontracting. But in that case, I would still expect to see AIC or Toei listed. So I think the idea of Kajishima-san owning the copyrights and going where he needs to get the project done is right. On the other hand, I detest crappy CG. I hope they do it right.

ty astronerdboy for the yt vid. That was the first official announcement I'd heard.

I'm still surprised there was never a scifi MMO based in the Tenchi (GXP) universe. Wanna be a pirate? Sure. GP officer? No problem. Seriously. If CCP can keep Eve Online running for so long, something with a recognizable IP could do well. Here's hoping!

EDIT: I did some quick translating of the text in the announcement video. I hope you find it useful.

Another protagonist returns from outer space.
OAV 4 episode list
OAV 5 episode list
Between 4th and 5th series missing series?!
From the hand of producer Masaki Kajishima, a new work.
Tenchi Muyo's great story beginning.
Original Sci-Fi Bishoujo Harem Anime Gold Pagoda

I would translate Gold Pagoda in this context as Gold Standard. But clearly this will happen between OAV 4 and 5. Makes sense if its the set up for Paradise Wars.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on December 27, 2022, 02:02:47 PMAnother idea is that Kajishima may just use this to get out of finishing the novels in a way that has to wrap up everything.

That gets my vote. Kajishima-sensei doesn't like recovering ground and if he can wrap up the GXP novel story in an anime, so much the better.

QuoteThey could probably montage the hell out of the events of the early novels to get things up to speed and make this a true continuation.

Magic 8-ball sez: "Don't count on it."

Based on how things have gone from OVA 3 to present, Kajishima-sensei pretty much expects folks to be versed on everything that has come before, whether anime or novel. I'd love a recap, but I honestly am not expecting one.

Quote from: Dreamr on December 27, 2022, 02:07:56 PMty astronerdboy for the yt vid. That was the first official announcement I'd heard.

You're welcome.

QuoteI'm still surprised there was never a scifi MMO based in the Tenchi (GXP) universe. Wanna be a pirate? Sure. GP officer? No problem. Seriously.

Well, whether MMO, mobile, or single player, I am kinda surprised there's no game either. I know there was some mobile game (now defunct) that I think had some Tenchi characters in it. Back in the day, there were a few Tenchi JRPG games, though I've seen some played and they are laughable in some aspects, and not because of age.

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on December 27, 2022, 01:58:34 AM
I think Kajishima-sensei owns the copyrights to Tenchi stuff now. He gets credited as a copyright owner, and that was true for the True Tenchi Muyo! novels I adapted. I'm pretty sure that doesn't mean that AIC loses the rights over the stuff they produced. Subsequently, Toei owns 50% of that. However, if Kajishima-sensei outright owns the Tenchi Muyo! copyright, and he no longer has an agreement with AIC, then he can get any company he wants to produce his stuff. And considering how bad things were for AIC, I'm not surprised he went elsewhere.

Yeah, that would certainly explain the lack of credit for AIC and Toei for the new show. But the big question here is, why didn't they announce that? Isn't that a detail that would receive some sort of formal announcement?

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on December 27, 2022, 01:58:34 AM
Also, Kajishima-sensei may not have wanted to deal with Toei.

Smart man. As competent as Toei are in handling most of their franchises more often than not (Though they aren't perfect and there have been some missteps, Digimon Adventure tri. being a glaringly notable one), there's a chance that Tenchi would have been completely swept under the rug in terms of priority given that it's a franchise that Toei just acquired and they have their hands more than full with their own stuff next year. Particularly because of not only what they have airing now, but there's a new Digimon movie on the way, not one but two anniversary projects (The two Sailor Moon Cosmos movies for the Sailor Moon 30th anniversary and the next season of Pretty Cure which will be for its own 20th anniversary), and there are rumblings of the Dragon Ball weekly anime coming back in 2023... and that's only taking their anime into account. Their tokusatsu are handled completely separately as the ransomware attack they had to deal with this year affecting all of their anime but not Avataro Sentai Donbrothers and Kamen Rider Revice (Which has since finished airing) proves and thus aren't part of this equation.

The cast and staff have been announced. Hiroshi Negishi is directing. All the seiyuu are returning except for Seina's, I assume it's the new guy who voiced him in OVA 5. The 4 girls from Dual's seiyuu are all returning to voice their GXP counterparts. If MAL is to be believed this is D's seiyuu's first role since 2004.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003861.000032953.html (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003861.000032953.html)

https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1613736891643490304 (https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1613736891643490304)
(https://i.imgur.com/IuXypgU.jpg)

Also AIC is listed in the article, so they are still involved.

I'm assuming the new elf woman on the far left is Airen, the princess from the fantasy planet Seina gets stranded on?

Just seeing the cast picture feels surreal, that this is actually happening. For over a decade, it looked like the Tenchi franchise was dead in the water, now it Kajishima is getting all kinds of projects green-lit.

On one hand, they are apparently taking pre-orders for the OVA this month. On the other, they don't say how many episodes will be in this new OVA series.

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on January 12, 2023, 11:46:10 PM
I'm assuming the new elf woman on the far left is Airen, the princess from the fantasy planet Seina gets stranded on?

Just seeing the cast picture feels surreal, that this is actually happening. For over a decade, it looked like the Tenchi franchise was dead in the water, now it Kajishima is getting all kinds of projects green-lit.

I can't be 100% certain, but based on the illustrations in GXP15 and 17, I think that the elf woman is Nayuta. She is built-in NB that Washu gave him.

Yeah, IIRC she based her appearance on those Seina found attractive, including Souren. Explaining the elf ears.

Just a small question, will we have the same animation from season 4 and 5?

Huh. So Tsukiko's shipping out with Seina here. 

Quote from: Azzasinoth on January 14, 2023, 08:01:33 PM
Just a small question, will we have the same animation from season 4 and 5?

there is some key visual art posted on twitter, ill update our banner to it actually.

Erm, so is this going to be a remake up to the final novels or are we just going to get a half-bake of canon novel material after the non-canon anime way back then?

Sounds like it's going to slot in between OVA 4 and OVA 5

Quote from: kamikaze00007 on January 17, 2023, 02:58:27 AM
Erm, so is this going to be a remake up to the final novels or are we just going to get a half-bake of canon novel material after the non-canon anime way back then?

I'm getting an idea that maybe the anime will be the sci-fi half of the Renza story.

Ideally spending an episode quickly recapping some of the novel's content, largely glossing over the magic/adventuring part of the story and instead picking up when Seina gets off his planet and deals with the pirates/HIMC/ Renza coup story.

It's the guess of many of us that Tsukiko's husband's disappearance/ presumed death had to do with HIMC.
I also think novel 17 surreptitiously introduced the pilot of HIMC without saying who it was, a girl being introduced to Earth's giant Robot anime/tokusatsu in a seedy Racepshi establishment.
And the first anime preview image notably uses the shadowy outline of a presumed antagonist- who looks like a girl or a feminine man.

If they do this- which should also lead into the Paradise War story by showing how the pirates got further fractured, the novels can focus on the "Yer a wizard, Seina" magic/adventuring story and maybe the Renza political stuff that the other wives will be dealing with.

Renza Coup? Care to explain?

Quote from: deadspacepirate on January 19, 2023, 07:56:20 AM
Renza Coup? Care to explain?

Kajishima first!

Vague talk that the group that control's HIMC is some sort of shadow conspiracy that wants to cripple the existing powers of Renza... not that the existing power structure makes much sense and has shown to be corrupt and ineffectual anyways.

The new Photon the idiot adventures Blu-Ray has a small AD for the GXP anime and said it will be 6 volumes.

Also May 26th is episode one

We got release dates for all 6 episodes.

Episode 1 - 5/26
Episode 2 - 6/30
Episode 3 - 7/28
Episode 4 - 8/25
Episode 5 - 9/29
Episode 6 - 10/27

Do we know anything else, like how long the episodes will be?

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on January 26, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
We got release dates for all 6 episodes.

Episode 1 - 5/26
Episode 2 - 6/30
Episode 3 - 7/28
Episode 4 - 8/25
Episode 5 - 9/29
Episode 6 - 10/27

Thank God!
The quarterly release of OVA5 was killing me!

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on January 26, 2023, 08:53:30 PM
Do we know anything else, like how long the episodes will be?

Imma' guess 30 minutes each, as always.

https://youtu.be/NMfanMUPxtw

Oh, check this out. At 59 seconds in, an illustration of Masaki is available!

"[Volume 1 early reservation privilege]
Mini colored paper "Masaki" drawn by Masaki Kajishima"

We now have kanji for her name. 真沙希

"At the store where you made the reservation
At the time of the release of the first volume
I will give it to you."

It seems if you purchase the entire series at the same store, you get a free novel after the release of the 6th episode. New illustrations similar to the ones for OAV 5. You must purchase all six volumes from the same site to get an illustration. Some of those sites do not ship internationally. But Amazon.co.jp says these are available to ship to the USA.

omg, yt auto-translate lmfao.... "story that begins after returning to Earth from entanglement Semen Tenchi Muyo Cuisine 5th..."

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on January 26, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
We got release dates for all 6 episodes.

Episode 1 - 5/26
Episode 2 - 6/30
Episode 3 - 7/28
Episode 4 - 8/25
Episode 5 - 9/29
Episode 6 - 10/27

Wow, literally one episode a month until it's done? Love it! They must have been very far into production when they announced this in that case. This is also good just in case the Summer 2023 anime season ends up dry for me (I've got shows I'm watching this season and in both Spring 2023 and Autumn 2023, but as far as Summer goes no dice right now), because even if that season has nothing I want to watch, at least I know more Tenchi's incoming.

Well, was definitely not expecting a trailer drop so soon.

Love what I'm seeing so far. It's brand new content, about a character I'm interested in, and the release schedule is good too.

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on January 26, 2023, 11:05:24 PM

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on January 26, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
We got release dates for all 6 episodes.

Episode 1 - 5/26
Episode 2 - 6/30
Episode 3 - 7/28
Episode 4 - 8/25
Episode 5 - 9/29
Episode 6 - 10/27

Thank God!
The quarterly release of OVA5 was killing me!

Having money to actually produce something helps a ton. 😅

Sweet holy McFuddruckers, those art plugs at the end of the trailer. And can someone make an emote of the chibi Washu narrating perhaps?

reminder we still need to get the 5th ova novel scanned and translated ... moneys been the issue maybe we should go fund it. i might have some to contribute

SWEET

also this will have a novel too we need to aquire it x.x i still regret not buying one of the live action dvds

Quote from: Eff Efferson on January 30, 2023, 11:57:34 PM
also this will have a novel too we need to aquire it x.x i still regret not buying one of the live action dvds

Regrettably, the novel is only available in Japan.

Quote from: Dreamr on February 07, 2023, 05:39:41 PM

Quote from: Eff Efferson on January 30, 2023, 11:57:34 PM
also this will have a novel too we need to aquire it x.x i still regret not buying one of the live action dvds

Regrettably, the novel is only available in Japan.

has never stoped us before we got novels 4 and 5

5 just hasnt been sent in for scanning so i wasnt able to ocr and translate it. plus there didnt seem to be much reason or hype to the best were getting is extra dialoge with tenchi and his harem

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on January 26, 2023, 11:21:01 AM
We got release dates for all 6 episodes.

Episode 1 - 5/26
Episode 2 - 6/30
Episode 3 - 7/28
Episode 4 - 8/25
Episode 5 - 9/29
Episode 6 - 10/27

I wonder if there's the faintest chance these will have multi-language subs.

This news is a few days old, but I only saw it now. They announced who is doing the OP and ED.
https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1626405080290447360 (https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1626405080290447360)
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003939.000032953.html (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003939.000032953.html)

Quote from: full gonzo on February 12, 2023, 01:13:17 AM
I wonder if there's the faintest chance these will have multi-language subs.

0% chance of that.

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on January 14, 2023, 06:21:56 AM

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on January 12, 2023, 11:46:10 PM
I'm assuming the new elf woman on the far left is Airen, the princess from the fantasy planet Seina gets stranded on?

Just seeing the cast picture feels surreal, that this is actually happening. For over a decade, it looked like the Tenchi franchise was dead in the water, now it Kajishima is getting all kinds of projects green-lit.

I can't be 100% certain, but based on the illustrations in GXP15 and 17, I think that the elf woman is Nayuta. She is built-in NB that Washu gave him.

Her entry in the character page appears to confirm this. https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/character.html

Diving in for the first time, I see we have episode 1's story outline. https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/story.html

Hmm.... quick and dirty translations commencing... and I do mean dirty. omg I love these online translation programs. First page 姦計 gets translated as fornication. I swear the writers do this on purpose. I love how the kanji is three woman followed by words joining...

Introduction:
After being kidnapped from the wedding venue and taken away from his home, Yamada Seina finally returned to the Earth in the solar system.
While his wives were still busy with their remaining duties in the Renza and Jurai regions, he returned to the solar system with Miki and the other Fukuchans...Earth, he had returned to Masaki Village.
Tenchi and the others welcomed them back, and they were surprised by the secrets that Tenchi revealed to them, but for the time being, they decided to stay in Masaki Village, at the home of Kiriko's mother, Tsukiko.
Tsukiko, who has treated them like family since their childhood, reveals her feelings to them....

Seina returns to Earth, where he strives to complete his mission despite the many mishaps and misfortunes he has encountered in space.
The GXP Renza Arc, which does not show the full story, and Tenchi Muyo! GXP Paradise Start-up Arc, which connects to the fifth season of Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki.


Episode 1 - Home of Long Ago...?　From Renza
Script by Hideki Shirane, Storyboards by Fumikazu Sato, Directed by Takashi Asami, Animation Director by Tomoyuki Abe, Mineori Suzuki

A spaceship, "Kamidake", warps out of the navigational space and appears in open space. Its captain, Yamada Seina, has finally returned to his longed-for hometown.
He now heads for Earth, the solar system, where misfortune awaits him.

The scenery around his parents' home has changed from what he remembers. As soon as they arrived on Earth and exchanged greetings with Tenchi and the others who greeted them, they were told a bombshell story.
His best friend and Kiriko's younger brother, " Kai Masaki," was engaged to his younger sister, Yoshiko, and his family's Yamada Store was about to be transformed into a huge shopping mall.

Against this backdrop, a return trip to the family home was not welcomed by Kai, and with the scheming (evil design / wicked plan) of Washu and her friends, Kai and Kiriko were forced to stay at the home of Tsukiko Masaki, Kai and Kiriko's mother.

...Although he was very fond of the house where he had spent his childhood with Kiriko, Kai, Tsukiko and others, Seina had nostalgic but complicated feelings toward Kiriko's mother, whom he had admired so much.

How very interesting, thank you for the summary.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 19, 2023, 10:17:11 PM
0% chance of that.

^ On the exact date and on the home video releases, that is. Once Crunchyroll puts them up, that's when we'll get subs. IIRC, the episodes of OVA 5 were up within a week (Or possibly less) of their release dates, so if all goes well we should be getting the episodes in short time unless some kind of international licensing snafu comes up (Which you can never rule those out).

Quote from: Dreamr on March 08, 2023, 03:37:23 AM
Hmm.... quick and dirty translations commencing... and I do mean dirty. omg I love these online translation programs. First page 姦計 gets translated as fornication. I swear the writers do this on purpose. I love how the kanji is three woman followed by words joining...

姦 kansuru is the kanji for rape. so yeah

 :rape: So they're going with the GXP anime epilogue...

The Tenchi twitter tweeted a youtube link to a private video saying it was a PV. So they either messed something up and privated it, or it will be going public soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxq1rWMMtg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJxq1rWMMtg)

The new PV is live now. Nothing of interest was really shown, but we got to see some new animation. It looks on par with OVA 5 quality wise.

Oh lord... gotta love the auto translate on the last two...

"...new misfortune story that begins after our main character Yamada Sei and the others returned to Earth from the semen on the toilet seat"
:really:
:cantdeal:

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on April 26, 2023, 03:03:08 PM
Oh lord... gotta love the auto translate on the last two...

"...new misfortune story that begins after our main character Yamada Sei and the others returned to Earth from the semen on the toilet seat"
:really:
:cantdeal:

inorite? I swear they intentionally write things in such a way so that they will get auto-translated into foul language.

soon
(https://i.imgur.com/nG0YfVB.png)

That character on the drama CD... sure looks like a child Seto.

im surprised crunchy roll hasnt announced anything i should ask them if theyere picking it up

Crunchyroll just dropped the first episode of OVA 5 a week after it was released in Japan. I don't think they even made an announcement.

My guess is that it's an OVA so it doesn't get a lot of coverage even though this is the "Main" story line

(https://i.imgur.com/lyWftwW.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/NV9dmDj.jpg)
https://twitter.com/tenchizinn/status/1661571568437440515 (https://twitter.com/tenchizinn/status/1661571568437440515)
https://twitter.com/tenchizinn/status/1661572163076489217 (https://twitter.com/tenchizinn/status/1661572163076489217)

https://www.crunchyroll.com/series/GKEH2G0N1/tenchi-muyo-gxp-paradise-starting

 :Hap:

Paradise Starting is a pretty awkward title though.

fresh of the bat jobia mentioned her reincarnation plotline

the pacing is so much better im excited for this even if it is retreading stuff.

Just saw it, and overall I liked it.

Like the last two seasons, it's very exposition heavy going over things we already know. But it felt less like filler this time around, because it is continuing Seina's story, not acting as an unnecessary prequel to Geminar.

The conversation between Seina and Tsukiko was surprisingly sweet, and it also drives home how tragic Seina's life would've been if Amane hadn't showed up and he would've stayed on Earth.

NGL, even though I've known about it for years. it was squicky seeing a woman who was Seina's surrogate mom his whole life, tell him to his face that she has romantic feelings for him. And it happens right after Seina is reminiscing about always staying over, and there's a brief shot of him as a very young boy hanging outt with Kai and Kiriko.

. Yes, I know that it's been established since the beginning that this universe has no incest taboo, but you don't think about it with Ayeka and Sasami because they met and think of Tenchi as more of an Earthling boy that they met than actual family.

The best joke of that whole conversation wasTsukiko talking about Seina being surrounded by "guard dogs" (his harem) but people keep getting through. I love how she see's Jovia as an interloper and herself as part of the harem already, when she's literally hitting on her own daughter's husband. lol

Also, I don't why, but I prefer Seina's character design from OVA 4. IIRC, he was slightly bigger but his face looked the same as the GXP anime. Now, that he looks more traditionally handsome, it sort of feels weird, I can't really explain why.

Definitely invested in seeing more of Seina's story, since Tenchi has gone God mode for awhile, I find Seina to be a more interesting protagonist than him tbh.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on February 19, 2023, 10:17:11 PM
This news is a few days old, but I only saw it now. They announced who is doing the OP and ED.
https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1626405080290447360 (https://twitter.com/tenchi4th/status/1626405080290447360)
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003939.000032953.html (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000003939.000032953.html)

Quote from: full gonzo on February 12, 2023, 01:13:17 AM
I wonder if there's the faintest chance these will have multi-language subs.

0% chance of that.

Haha! I would have thought that too. Man, was I stunned when folks pinged me about this being on CR. I hadn't even heard of a licensing announcement.

Quote from: Dr.Soviet on May 19, 2023, 11:33:33 PM
My guess is that it's an OVA so it doesn't get a lot of coverage even though this is the "Main" story line

Maybe. But back in the day, FUNimation couldn't even release OVA 3 until the entire thing had released in JP, to prevent Japanese folks from buying the cheaper, English DVDs. I suspect CR has some sort of region-blocking on their website to prevent Japanese folks from watching it here without paying for a physical copy. And CR may have been forced to stay on the low. But that's just me speculating.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on May 25, 2023, 07:13:13 PM
:Hap:

Paradise Starting is a pretty awkward title though.

I agree. Paradise Begins would have been better, in my opinion.

Quote from: Eff Efferson on May 25, 2023, 09:45:05 PM
the pacing is so much better im excited for this even if it is retreading stuff.

I'm find with retreading. In fact, I would have preferred some additional information for those who've not read the GXP novels.

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on May 26, 2023, 12:03:08 AM
Just saw it, and overall I liked it.

Likewise.

QuoteNGL, even though I've known about it for years. it was squicky seeing a woman who was Seina's surrogate mom his whole life, tell him to his face that she has romantic feelings for him. Yes, I know that it's been established since the beginning that this universe has no incest taboo, but you don't think about it with Ayeka and Sasami because they met and think of Tenchi as more of an Earthling boy that they met than actual family.

I agree 100% with this. Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki was the harem title where I wanted Tenchi to pick a single girl. I remember debating with True Sheol and others about this. Eventually, they convinced me that Tenchi would marry all of the girls, including Sasami. I had a difficult time with all of that. But then from a story perspective, the political marriages made sense. So that caused me to accept the harem aspect. And Sasami being WAY older than she looked, combined with her actually being Tsunami caused me to accept that aspect.

However, even though Kajishima-sensei created a story reason for Tsukiko to be with Seina, I still can't get over the ick factor. It is just about as cringe as Airi wanting to bang her grandson, Tenchi. As you said, Tsukiko was like a mom to Seina. But not only that, she is his mother-in-law. I understand the oyakodon fetish, but whew! What happened to Tsukiko's husband? It has been a while, so I don't remember.

QuoteI love how she see's Jovia as an interloper

I really need to read up on Jovia. I didn't realize she'd been reborn/reincarnated multiple times and apparently originated on Earth. I guess it was mentioned in OVA 5? But I don't recall that.

QuoteDefinitely invested in seeing more of Seina's story, since Tenchi has gone God mode for awhile, I find Seina to be a more interesting protagonist than him tbh.

Other than marrying his harem, Tenchi's story was over in OVA 3. OVA 4 is about Tenchi's dad and step-mom, not Tenchi. OVA 5 was about training Kenshi to go to Geminar, with a side for Tenchi to marry his harem. So yeah, Tenchi's story is over. But Seina's story continues.

It really sucks that the GXP novels won't get animated, nor the Paradise War novels. They should, IMO, providing they are ACCURATE to the source material. But I know Kajishima-sensei doesn't like to cover the same ground twice unless absolutely required (the GXP novels).

Anyway, glad to see CR had the first episode and presumably the series. It is a holiday weekend, so I will try to make time to do a video review. The "Paradise Starting" may be trash, but for the most part, I thought the adaptation was good.

Additional: Is that Masaki for the extra art?

New theory... They travel to the different factions and help decide who becomes the representatives of the groups. Seeing each girl in their previous circumstances could definitely help their stories.

The first episode just came out and they already have an article showing episode 2's box art and contents. As someone who has only been around for the releases of OVA 4 and 5 this new monthly release schedule is wonderful. Waiting 3 months for an episode was hell.
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000004116.000032953.html (https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000004116.000032953.html)

I got home from work on Friday afternoon and there it was. This first episode Blu-Ray was in my mailbox! Since I bought the 6 disc set from Amazon.jp, I also received the small Masaki piece that is in the picture in Ryo-Okay's post.

Based on the happenings in the Paradise War novels, Dai-yon-ki, Dai-go-ki, and now Paradise Shido-hen, there is NO WAY Kajishima-sensei could have wrapped up Seina's story in GXP vol 18!

I really enjoyed episode one. Not a lot of action, but I think that's fine as long as the story progresses.

We'll probably never know Jovia's backstory, but I really want to see/read her interaction with Seina when she realized that he was from Japan. Hopefully we'll see some Airen in this season. I almost cancelled my subscription with Amazon.jp and ordered the set from Rakuten Books to get the Airen cloth poster and Acrylic key chain. Tough decision! I've got my daughter watching her anime goods sites for any of the limited items!

I've started working on a small jig that will allow me to photograph the novel, without having to destroy it, when it shows up in 5 months. I'm not planning on breaking the seal on any of them, except the novel, if I can!

Hope for a quick return to a prominent space story seemed dashed when I looked up the Japanese wiki page and discovered the apparent title for the second episode is Bright Rural Life (明るい♥農村生活)
:neg:

From the show page description for #2 (google translated)
Episode 2 "Bright Rural ♥ Life"

The next day after returning to Earth and spending the night at Tsukiko's house, a welcome party will be held for Miki and his daughter-in-law to celebrate the return of Seinan and others at the meeting place in Masaki Village.
The women of Masaki Village are also curious about Miki and the other women and Jobia, and when Seinan, who was a child, has returned as an adult "man", expectations for life in the village are rising.
Of course, Moon Lake's heart...
Kirin and the others have not yet returned to Earth, but Miki and the others decide to help out with the village's work so that they can live in Masaki Village.
A few days later, Jobia returned from her hometown, but...

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on May 27, 2023, 12:14:40 AM
I got home from work on Friday afternoon and there it was. This first episode Blu-Ray was in my mailbox! Since I bought the 6 disc set from Amazon.jp, I also received the small Masaki piece that is in the picture in Ryo-Okay's post.

Based on the happenings in the Paradise War novels, Dai-yon-ki, Dai-go-ki, and now Paradise Shido-hen, there is NO WAY Kajishima-sensei could have wrapped up Seina's story in GXP vol 18!

I really enjoyed episode one. Not a lot of action, but I think that's fine as long as the story progresses.

We'll probably never know Jovia's backstory, but I really want to see/read her interaction with Seina when she realized that he was from Japan. Hopefully we'll see some Airen in this season. I almost cancelled my subscription with Amazon.jp and ordered the set from Rakuten Books to get the Airen cloth poster and Acrylic key chain. Tough decision! I've got my daughter watching her anime goods sites for any of the limited items!

I've started working on a small jig that will allow me to photograph the novel, without having to destroy it, when it shows up in 5 months. I'm not planning on breaking the seal on any of them, except the novel, if I can!

did the audio drama come with it? we need to figure out some way to get those worked on  maybe fivver...

Quote from: Eff Efferson on May 27, 2023, 09:55:50 PM
did the audio drama come with it? we need to figure out some way to get those worked on  maybe fivver...

Not yet, I expect it to show up with the novel.

There is a drama CD included with each blu-ray. There are two discs in the package.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on May 28, 2023, 11:53:40 AM
There is a drama CD included with each blu-ray. There are two discs in the package.

Well crap!
I was hoping not to open them, but I guess I have to.

Thanks for the heads up!

What a great thing to see when I come back from vacation!

I enjoyed it. I left a pretty lengthy review on CR. Basically, the quality is a clear step up from OAV 5. The CG background textures were good. Everything looked great. Kamidaki got a shiny new coat, too! Music was nice. The pacing was still slow overall. But it was the first episode. So I was expecting it. Despite this, there was enough happening to keep me interested. A couple times I even rewound to review something.

Like AstroNerdBoy said in his yt review, there were a couple spots where the subs were a little different from the spoken language. But nothing critical that I could tell. As we all know, sometimes Japanese doesn't exactly translate to English 1-for-1. But Paradise Starts....? sigh. Again, agree with ANB, Paradise Begins just sounds better.

I don't think I need to go into the whole mother and daughter with Seina thing. I'm not at all surprised. We were expecting it. And in a galaxy where people live for thousands of years, I expect Earth traditional values to be considered at best, quaint. Besides, we have Washu, Ryoko, and Ryo-ohki with Tenchi, as well as Aeka and Sasami. So there is precedent.

I ran the episode 2 synopsis through deepl. I changed nothing, except correcting a couple names.
　The next morning after returning to Earth, Miki and her friends visit Tsukiko's house to greet her on her return. Later that day, the meeting place was filled with excitement at the "welcome party" in Masaki Village. Miki and the other members of the Masaki Ladies' Association are loved by the ladies "as a mascot" as well as by Seina, who has become a young man who still retains his old appearance, but Tsukiko's tense emotions overpower the others when Jovia is mentioned. The members of the ladies' association could only laugh at this attitude, but Akie gently admonished them, looking ahead to the future of Seina and Tsukiko, who had returned as adults.

I forgot to mention it in my YT review (and I had a note to mention it too), but for me, the primary ick factor for Tsukiko x Seina is the fact that she helped raise him. So she's a mother figure. And yeah, that's yet another sexual fantasy element for Kajishima-sensei to do.

If Jovia is also Seina's wife, I suppose she's in on getting Seina hooked up with Tsukiko. Otherwise, why isn't she getting some "quality time" with Seina?

The story of how she got married to Seina as "a plus-one to a great beauty" could be fun. I still assume the other one must be Airen (part of Seina's plan to get off the magic planet). The joke seems to largely be that she must have tricked her way in somehow. The first time it's alluded to is in a doujin before OVA5, with Jovia not only teasing that she married him but that she beat all the rest (to an actual ceremony... and maybe other things)... which would definitely make everyone angry.

My thoughts and comments on episode 1.

Seto looks quite a bit younger than she did in the GXP anime.
Good grief! Kai is definitely a Tennan! Hopefully there's enough influence from the Masaki side to keep him from going totally insane.
What the hell is with Chibi Nayuto sitting in Washu's lap at ~4:38.
At ~19:45 we hear about how Seina would have probably married Tsukiko if he hadn't gone into space for at least the third time.
We knew Kiyone was nuts from Dai-yon-ki and the GXP novels, but that woman was completely out of control. Definitely Airi's kid! How did Minaho end up being even remotely sane?
~25:34. I think Washu is hoping that truck-kun gets Jovia.
~25:38. Mikami says, "Don't eat food off the ground." Probably the best line in episode one!

As many others have pointed out: That title! Who screwed the pooch on that one!?

I'm not really bothered by the incest thing. It's a royalty thing! Hell the royal houses in Europe were all related to each other 5 or 6 different ways.

I do wish that the translations were a bit more literal. There are too many quasi-English equivalents thrown in.

I'm really looking forward to August Comiket. With luck, we'll get some more details in 23.08.

Oh, btw, I think the plus-one is Jovia not Tsukiko.

I guess my pronoun was unclear. I was referring to ANB saying "If Jovia is also Seina's wife" and referring to her, not Tsukiko.

It's in the 3rd(?) Episode of OVA5 where Jovia and Miron are having an impromptu Manzai skit where Jovia says she was a bench warmer wife and a "plus one to a great beauty."
No, Tsukiko has nothing to do with that.

Quote~25:34. I think Washu is hoping that truck-kun gets Jovia.

She wants Jovia run over?

I really hope the GXP OVA series does better than expected. I wouldn't mind another Geminar series. I'd love to the the True Tenchi Muyo! novels adapted into OVA episode. Ditto the Paradise War novels. Heck, I know it won't happen, but the mind boggles at the thought of an ACCURATE GXP novel anime adaptation.

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on June 02, 2023, 01:18:00 AM

Quote~25:34. I think Washu is hoping that truck-kun gets Jovia.

She wants Jovia run over?

I really hope the GXP OVA series does better than expected. I wouldn't mind another Geminar series. I'd love to the the True Tenchi Muyo! novels adapted into OVA episode. Ditto the Paradise War novels. Heck, I know it won't happen, but the mind boggles at the thought of an ACCURATE GXP novel anime adaptation.

Heh,
Mostly my weird sense of humor reacting to the way she said that.
I agree 100% with the anime adaptation of Paradise War and a novel accurate GXP!
I'd like to see season 2 of Geminar, after he finally finishes Agga Ruter.

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on June 02, 2023, 01:18:00 AM
I'd love to the the True Tenchi Muyo! novels adapted into OVA episode.

I'd give my left nut to see Ryoko's attack on Jurai animated fully, with Dio's "Lock up the Wolves" as BGM.

https://youtu.be/e63f-KgsULA

new trailer. were getting another talky episode for sure but with lots of  character interaction. miki tells tsukiko hi mom im home! and clearly d is explaining something about their past lives to the dual girls. she hasnt had a speaking line in aaaaages. and grown sasami gets to have some shenanigans. im looking foward to it

shenanigans. (https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/images/story_sbn/st2/st2_07.jpg)

(https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/images/story_sbn/st2/st2_07.jpg)
Get that plunger away from your face, girl. Nasty.

Please don't get our hopes up about Sasami. I think Goodbye 20th Century is as much of her as we'll ever see. And Pretty Sammy.

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Looks like there's another drama CD, and an "8P" (eight page?) booklet, also.

On another note, I looked through that yt channel's videos. At the very bottom there is an ad for Fist of the North Star Blu-ray boxed set. It looked amazing. Chills.

Episode 3 is going to be interesting, it looks like it's going to feature Masaki Jurai and Zinv who showed up in the 14th novel illustration.

Can anyone make sense of the title of episode 3, as written on the show page,
「類は友呼び 朱に交わる」/ Rui wa tomo yobi shu ni majiwaru

The machine translation comes out as...

"A kind is called a friend, crosses with vermilion"
or
Kinds are called friends and meet vermilion [without quotation marks]
or
The kind meets the friend call vermilion [Yandex]

way past my "I recognize some phrases from anime" fluency in Japanese... can anyone make sense of it?

I guess it's like [Friends] meet [Vermilion?] but it's still so wrong

TENCHI EPISODE UP EARLY
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Not really early, it should always show up "a day early" because it's already the 30th there and they seem to release it to Chrunchyroll at midnight.


New choice for the auto-translation. Found when Google translate finally worked on the page itself (which it wouldn't before)
"Kindness Calls Friends and Crosses with Vermilion"

That is at least grammatical, but still seems off.

Like, I bet "Vermilion" / 朱 is just meant to be "Shu" of Zhu" or combined with one or two of the surrounding characters to make a different name and destroy the meaning of the sentence.

WE HAVE ANOTHER CALENDAR SHOT and this is a harvest episode, so this is in MAY! and the date is given on the cal lender this time

the year is given but damn near impossible to read in 1080p... looks like 20065 or 2006 to me...  its definititly 200 something. :D big theory confirmed

ok so i did some further inferance. it has to be a year where may starts on a 1st on Sunday very rare.  2005 is one of those years. I knew they were giving us the dates subtly .

Quote from: Eff Efferson on June 29, 2023, 04:41:57 PM
WE HAVE ANOTHER CALENDAR SHOT

I haven't watched it yet, but...
2005 fucks up all sorts of things...
2005 would blow the assumed timeline up by about 5 years. I had Seina's return to be around 2000.
... But why do you say "May?" Although some things harvest multiple times, they're in our latitude- May is late planting season. Harvest is throughout summer and into fall.
and uh... the last calendar shot was supposed to be September 1994, the wedding. After which, the newlyweds apparently quickly got busy and Kenshi was born... Kenshi is not 9-10 years old in this episode


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Months_starting_on_Sunday

hmm well it could be 2005 or 1996 or 2011... now that you mention it i forgot all about the time line

edit i was wring 1994

my bad this is 1996. for sure. 1996 and 2005 are the only years it could be and according to my timeline its 1996 when himc fights zinv at the end of gxp 14 we can presume thats the last battle before going home. its just so hard to read the year.

I've seen the picture now (but not the episode-I was having tech problems), I'd say you were right the first time (1994 and 2005 are the only possibilities for that calandar page) and the meaning this time is simply an admission that they've given up and are using a sliding timeline now. For everything to happen and for people to be the right ages as shown- if this were using the old timeline, this would have to take place a few years after OVA4- not just a couple.

...just thought of another calendar possibility that says they have REALLY moved up the timeline... another year with a May starting on a Sunday is 2016! ...that kinda looks like "2016"

I'm going to do a somewhat live line-of-thought while watching.

First impression: nice intro. We get the Renza girls, Masaki, Acha, and Shou. Crunchyroll used the feminine pronoun for Zinv. Someone on CR posted that at the end of GXP 14 there was a tease about Zinv having a teenaged female form. I don't remember that.

If we're seeing Shou at this point, we may be getting some actual Paradise Wars content, as he isn't involved until novel 1. But I suspect that won't be until later in this series.

Calendar shots are easy to get the year on. Just find a year where the days of the week all line up. 1994 and 2005 both match.  I think 2005 is reasonable, if a bit late. But 1994 is just too early. OAV1 episodes 5/6 are in 1993. I'd like to think they paid attention to detail and used the calendar from the proper year in the timeline as an Easter egg for the fans. Ofc, someone may have just made it all up to look nice. But why bother even having a calendar there if not to give us a more precise timeline? I'll have to go back and check the calendar from OAV 4(?), just to compare.

lol, the calendar Aeka looks at in OAV 4 ep 1 is also from 1994/2005, as well as 2011. Same for the above. So I think they're just using whatever.

And I cannot hold this back: "Curry. Saiko!" I rewatched Dual last week. So I was kind of excited as soon as they started talking about dinner. D actually points to the cabbit girls and matches each to their previous incarnations. Mitsuki Sanada is obvious. Kirche = Mitsuki Rara, and Fuku is Yayoi Schwael.

Apparently the girls can talk while in cabbit form, now. That's new. Reminds me of Ryo-ohki from Pretty Sammi.

Was nice to see some of Seina's bad-luck showing when the girls aren't close enough.

And it looks like we'll get some of the parts that were cut from OAV 5, like Jovia getting caught visiting her previous hometown.

edit: I think CR has updated their subs. In OAV 4 ep1 when Tenchi is talking to Tsukiko, he mentions that Minaho is referred to as Seto's "Leash and Conscience." I'm certain that it used to only say "leash". I wonder if they're using AI to translate, and the AI got an update.

edit2: Oh, yes. They've definitely updated the subs.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on June 27, 2023, 08:57:37 PM
Can anyone make sense of the title of episode 3, as written on the show page,
「類は友呼び 朱に交わる」/ Rui wa tomo yobi shu ni majiwaru

The machine translation comes out as...

"A kind is called a friend, crosses with vermilion"
or
Kinds are called friends and meet vermilion [without quotation marks]
or
The kind meets the friend call vermilion [Yandex]

way past my "I recognize some phrases from anime" fluency in Japanese... can anyone make sense of it?

I guess it's like [Friends] meet [Vermilion?] but it's still so wrong

According to deepl: "Like minds gather like friends."

 "Like minds gather like friends." - neat. Because it seems to be a weird sticking point, I put it in deepl too and removed "朱" and got "Birds of a feather flock together" - So I guess it must be a take on a japanese phrase we're unfamiliar with, which they just dropped "Vermilion" into.

The OP- the bit that really surprised me was the quartet at the end: There definitely have not been any giganta-boobed dryads in the novels yet. Acha! ... Airen (also shown right before) --- or maybe not... Did Souren get his sex change? Although that doesn't really look like a femme version of him -- so I'm guessing someone else.

What I liked about Seina's bad luck scene was how they showed his "trouble avoidance" abilities- he dodges even in his sleep- brilliant. For the opposite take, think of the scene in the TV show where he's on Earth and wakes up in his home. If I remember right, Fuku swats the cord to his overhead light and the entire thing falls on his face.
It's one of the reasons a remake of the TV would be nice- it got the nature of Seina's  bad luck so wrong, so often. They played it off as a funny inconvenience instead of a deadly curse. Missing completely that he had to develop special abilities to avoid being killed.


ZInv-chan, yes, look at the ep.3 preview image posted on the previous page- Darkreves got it right, although the depiction is a way simpler take on the novel illustration:
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tenchi/images/2/22/GXPNovel14-color3-image0019602_ZinvGirl.jpg)


It is definitely showing some problems though. It keeps going over things already covered in OVA 5 instead of moving on. Why the hell talk about building the house again? We get it... but, I guess all these girls just kept this plan from Kiriko, so she could be told about it like it's a new idea?

I think that the dryad in the back might be a physical incarnation of a magic tree on the kamidake or possibly the magic spirit that communicated with Nayuta, anything is possible at this point.

We actually get a brief look at the mysterious plant woman in Omatsuri Zenjitsu no Yoru Tenchi Ban 22.12

It's a shame no one has translated this work yet.

https://e-hentai.org/g/2108391/a88b165260/

It might help us understand a bit more.

Apparently there's no actual story content in that one, so no one wants to bother with it. Kajashima Boomer talk with pictures.
A rough breakdown here, a few posts in.
https://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=1597.0

Thanks, I was just looking for info since it looks like the girl on page 9 is going to show up in ep 3, I also think the girl on page 10 is Jovias original body before her reincarnation.

Ok, so I've just done a translation of these pages and it says that the new characters are Jovias friend who caused her death originally and her previous incarnation's mother.

So, regarding episode 2 (I won't get to do a video review until maybe the last week of July, unless I'm VERY lucky)...

One thing I've noticed about the GXP OVA is that there's at least an attempt to give some explanation of things. For example, the episode goes out of its way to show that the Dual! girls are cabbits. Further, there's a brief chat about how these are the Dual! girls without getting into the weeds. I will admit that if one hasn't watched Dual!, one won't get the references. But at least one doesn't need to have read the latest GXP novels.

I get Kajishima-sensei wants to oyakodon action, but I'm still not comfortable with the whole, "Yeah, your daughter may be first wife, but she's away now, so you may as well join the harem and get some while you can." From what little I remember of the Seina stuff in OVA 5, I don't think Tsukiko joins the harem. That aside, I loved the cabbits discussing this with Tsukiko. They all seem pretty level headed about things, considering their Dual! past and the fact that they are (potential) wives (consorts) as well. Not sure what they need to do to be "consorts".

The whole alien commune that is Masaki Village is pretty weird to me. Making Masaki Village segregated from the world made sense. But communal farming and other work would not be my idea of interesting. Further, it does beg the question of why the Yamada Store's growth is required at all. Not sure what a small, alien village would need with a facility that would ultimately act like a large, indoor mall.

<quote>It keeps going over things already covered in OVA 5 instead of moving on. Why the hell talk about building the house again? We get it... but, I guess all these girls just kept this plan from Kiriko, so she could be told about it like it's a new idea?</quote>

Chronologically, this happens before OVA 5. So story-wise, why wouldn't they discuss this as the new idea it is? And you are assuming everyone watched OVA 5. Many have not.

The real problem here is that Paradise Starting (still a terrible name) is a prequel to OVA 5. When OVA 5 was made, there was nothing about the Tenchi rights going to a new production company. And as I noted earlier, the new company isn't assuming everyone has watched/read every canon bit of stuff out there. Yes, there's still a high entry bar, but they are correctly writing things to lower that bar a bit.

Quote from: DarkReves on June 30, 2023, 03:40:50 PM
Thanks, I was just looking for info since it looks like the girl on page 9 is going to show up in ep 3, I also think the girl on page 10 is Jovias original body before her reincarnation.

now that you say it its all i see... preincarnated jobia

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on July 01, 2023, 12:08:01 AM

The whole alien commune that is Masaki Village is pretty weird to me. Making Masaki Village segregated from the world made sense. But communal farming and other work would not be my idea of interesting. Further, it does beg the question of why the Yamada Store's growth is required at all. Not sure what a small, alien village would need with a facility that would ultimately act like a large, indoor mall.</quote>

soft money laundering for jurai its explained in vol.2 of gxp. they all have produce farm planets as royals and to get money to use on earth they sell the produce  to exchange currency in a way. i mean its either that or gold they have to uae but they cant use too much of resources that dont spoil or it throws off the entire economy.

as for why they re tread the house the novels got kajishima developing this bad habit where since theres so many characters and different volumes they cover the same future plot points being thrown around to see reaction by the characters multiple times. its almost habitual in every novel to see the same plot points for the future discussed once a novel. kirikos resistance to being sexual with seina was a big one and so was the idea to marry all the girls to seina and so is shinji sake... every dang time. definatly because they dont assume fans nessesarily have seen all in order.

I finally opened Volume 1 and 2. I've been spending way to much time reading Isekai Nonbiri Nouka Web Novel and Manga lately.

I have no idea how to upload pics here. Gotta figure that out.
Here are the translations for the booklets in the Blu-Rays. I'll split them up. Here is Volume 1.

V1 Booklet pgs 2, 3
01 Episode 1
   Home of the old days...? From the curtain-za
   Script: Hideki Shirane Storyboard: Fumikazu Sato
   Direction: Takashi Asami Animation Supervisors: Tomoyuki Abe, Mineori Suzuki

Food
Sundries
Hardware
Yamada Shoten



Wedding
Time has passed since Yamada Seina was kidnapped from his wedding ceremony and taken away from his home to Renza space where armored vehicles roamed. His crew is nostalgic for the familiarity of the solar system, and each of them is filled with their own emotions. However, there was one person aboard the ship who iss particularly annoying. Jovia Jovis ... a magician who came all the way from Renza to the solar system (also Seina's wife). The Kamidake was hurrying back to the Earth with Jovia in high spirits.

While his wives are still busy with their remaining duties at Renza and Jurai, Seina and Miki and the rest of the Fuku-chans arrive at Masaki Village and Tenchi's house. Seina greets them on their return and explains what happened in Renza. Tenchi thanks them for their hard work, and Seina and the others decide to cooperate with them in dealing with Reia's past and Kenshi's future. Seina and his family decide to stay on Earth for a while, and as a result, they end up living at the home of Kiriko's mother, Tsukiko, who took care of him as much as his own mother did when he was a child. The scenery was the same as when he was a child, and the colors of the table were the same. Everything is the same as it was when he left the Earth, but Tsukiko, who has treated him like family, reveals her feelings for him. Seina and Tsukiko, the hands of their clocks begin to move quietly...


V1 Booklet pgs 4, 5
CHARACTER!
Masaki Tsukiko
CV. Yukino Satsuki
Mother of Kiriko and Kai. Seina has been a close friend of Kai's since they were children, and she has looked after him in Kiriko's absence as well. Everyone in Masaki Village knows that she has feelings for Seina. When she gets angry, she is as strong and scary as Kiriko.

Yamada Seina
CV. Nojima Hirofumi
Seina was Tenchi's junior on Earth, but he was suddenly transported to outer space and became involved with the Galactic Federation and the universe.
On the day of his wedding to Kiriko and the girls, he was abducted by the Seto Scouts, who were spies, to Renza. Finally, he returns to earth.

Jovia Jobis
CV. Yuzuki Rouka
A native of Renza, Jovia is a magician with a maiden's heart.
Despite her appearance, she is a pervert with a lot of "elements" that are not maidenly. She is a reincarnated person and has come to accompany Seina to confirm whether this world of Earth is her true home or not.

Nayuta
CV. Yuko Kobayashi
A new NB created for Seina who lost hisj original NB. Unlike the previous NB, it is quite normal (?) with decent software installed. Her personality is set close to that of Washu, the creator of this NB. It is also designed to be a "chibi" size.


V1 Booklet pgs 6, 7
BackGround ~ The Development of Yamada Shoten
Foodstuffs
Miscellaneous Goods
Hardware
Yamada Store
Before Seina left the earth

Super Yamada Store
When Seina returned to Earth

YAMADA
Yamada shopping center in the future

And here is Volume 2.

V2 - Pgs 2,3
02 Episode 2
   Bright Rural Life
   Script by Hideki Shirane Storyboard by Fumikazu Sato
   Direction: Takashi Asami, Atsushi Nakayama Animation Supervisor: Tomoyuki Abe Animation Supervisor Cooperation: Keiko Ishii, Shiori Kono, Nanahiki Arima

The Day I Returned to Earth
On the day he returned to Earth, Seina spent the night in Masaki Village Tsukiko's house. The next morning, he had a secret conversation with Seto, Mikami, Washu and Jovia at breakfast. Then, Miki and her friends visit Tsukiko's house to greet her. Tsukiko and Miki meet for the first time in a long time and exchange a light embrace.
Nayuta accompanies them to the house to greet them. Tsukiko is interested in Nayuta, who has a different personality from the original NB, and Miki is surprised to see her. Meanwhile, Fuku, who is curious about Seina, visits the house.
Seina, who has already finished talking with Seto, sits in the living room and discusses his future plans.  The conversation turns to life and activities in the Village, but is put on hold until Kiriko and the girls return. Later, the "welcome party" at Masaki Village was a great success. Not only Seina, who is now a young man, but also Miki and the other members of the ladies' association were treated with affection "as a mascot," but Tsukiko's tense emotions overpowered everyone around her when Jovia was mentioned. The members of the ladies' association could only laugh at her attitude, but Akie gently reminded them of the future of Seina and Tsukiko, who had returned to Japan as adults.
Akie tells them of her plan to isolate Masaki Village from the rest of the world. She tells them that they will build a "house" for Seina and his family. And what will happen to Tsukiko's "feelings"?
Miki and the other girls are working hard in the fields to get accustomed to Masaki Village, and Seina is helping Tenchi with his work. When Seina returned home, he found Jovia sitting on the floor at dusk.


V2 - Pgs 4 and 5
CHARACTER!
Masaki Tenchi
CV: Kikuchi Masami
Masaki Tenchi is the main character of the Ryo-Ohki series. He is the grandson of Masaki Katsuhito, the chief priest of Masaki Shrine.
He is a direct descendant of the "Jurai Emporer," a monarchy that is the largest power in the Galactic Federation.
He is always tormented by female troubles.

Fuku
CV. Nakamura Chie
The sister of Ryo-Ohki, she is the main computer unit and energy generator of Seina's ship, Kamidake. Because it is the same type of ship as the Ryo-Ohki, she used to have only a beast form, but recently she has been able to change into human form as well. She is one of the few members who knows the solar system.

Miki Steinbeck
CV. Tanaka Rie
Seina's senior at the GP Academy. She lost her body in an accident during her training but transferred her consciousness to Fuku's clone body. Like Fuku and the others, she can also transform into a beast. She is the leader of Fuku and Kirche. Currently, she is one of Seina's wives.

Kirche / D
CV. Megumi Toyoguchi, Ai Uchikawa
Kirche: She is an AI, but has human rights. Like Miki, she currently lives in Fuku's cloned body and follows Seina. Like Miki and others, she is one of Seina's wives.

D: An astral clone of an "ancient prehistoric civilization" that was sleeping inside ZINV. She can change into beast form like Fuku. Curry is his favorite.


V2 - Pgs 6,7
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Guide to Masaki Village Part 1
Overhead view of Masaki Village
Masaki Shrine
Masaki Village meeting place

ASTRO, The audio drama seems to indicate that yeah the reason for the huge supermarket is to funnel seinas earnings to earth money.

you know what i dont get, why did this new ova retread tsukiko telling seina about what would happen if he didn't go to space, she went over all this in the novels with him already when they came back to earth to see tenchi

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 09, 2023, 06:04:20 PM
you know what i dont get, why did this new ova retread tsukiko telling seina about what would happen if he didn't go to space, she went over all this in the novels with him already when they came back to earth to see tenchi

I agree!
Since most people have the attention span of a squirrel and for those who didn't read the novels, I guess they felt they had to throw this in. I'm afraid I don't have a non-cynical answer.

I don't have as much annoyance of covering things in the novels as I do with them retreading details they've already covered in the anime releases. Why go over Kenshi yet again again again with Seina? They have effectively screwed up the chronology of the shows, as it certainly SEEMS like OVA4.4 would have already occurred... but now they seem to be saying that it hasn't?
As mentioned before, even though this takes place before, OVA5 already dealt with the house, and the explanation for the house, and when it did, treated it as if it were a completely new idea. Now, we can retroactively treat it as if Miki and the cabbit girls are just humoring Kiriko with "this novel new idea" of having a house near Tenchi that they have certainly never heard anything about before.

Howdy fellows and ladies. I just heard of this and I'm back to enjoy it with ya.

A new Synopsis and character descriptions are now out on the official site, it turns out the blonde elf in the opening is Souren and the plant creature has been described as a tree fairy.

so ive been thinking now that ive been relistening to the novels, it seems obvious that the way they sent kenshi to geminar is seinas transportation magic which means they can also get him whenever

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 15, 2023, 02:17:08 PM
so ive been thinking now that ive been relistening to the novels, it seems obvious that the way they sent kenshi to geminar is seinas transportation magic which means they can also get him whenever

Yes, One of the first things he's told by BarryGibbaru is that it's actually easier to travel between dimensions than over distance. Maybe that explains why Seina was the only non-family member in the room when Kenshi was sent.

I seem to remember that Kenshi is treated with indifference by some of the late series antagonists, almost like he is part of a Bladerunner synthetic or artificial human stereotype. That he overcomes this and redeems the other Seikishi from similar treatment is going to make coming back home really complicated.

Episode 4 auto-translates as "Tenchi Disturbance" (when run through Google). Doesn't seem to involve Tenchi.
https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/story.html
I wonder if, in this case, it actually means "Heaven and Earth Disturbance"- which does make some sense.

ALso check the character pages. Confirms the blonde elf is Souren but the auto-translate doesn't do much for the gigantic boobed dryad (and the name doesn't come out clearly). I'm wondering if she is supposed to be the "essence of magic" being that Seina made contact with in the novels.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on July 20, 2023, 02:05:00 PM
Episode 4 auto-translates as "Tenchi Disturbance" (when run through Google). Doesn't seem to involve Tenchi.
https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/story.html
I wonder if, in this case, it actually means "Heaven and Earth Disturbance"- which does make some sense.

ALso check the character pages. Confirms the blonde elf is Souren but the auto-translate doesn't do much for the gigantic boobed dryad (and the name doesn't come out clearly). I'm wondering if she is supposed to be the "essence of magic" being that Seina made contact with in the novels.

auto translate of page:

Karyu shushu CV: Miyuki Sato
Inside the Shudarkai "Magic Essence Unit"
A tree fairy who manages the lord's mansion.
in the Ancient Dryad,
"I'm a lord." Seina is called master,


IMO This is clearly a "D" of the Airen souren group green, computer unit.

TBH we probably need to redraw the waifu charts once the renza ark settles

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on December 22, 2022, 10:34:32 PM
https://natalie.mu/comic/news/506353 (https://natalie.mu/comic/news/506353)
(https://i.imgur.com/KcH4EGc.jpg)

prediction: if this shadowy figure isnt a new character... it will be the mysterious fleet comander... who has yet to show up outside of a cover and a section in gxp.... no reason just something i want to happen lo everyone else has had an appearence

I had just discounted "her" as Jovia's friend from her previous life, but I guess the design doesn't quite match. Doesn't seem like a "villain" either.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on July 26, 2023, 04:11:02 PM
I had just discounted "her" as Jovia's friend from her previous life, but I guess the design doesn't quite match. Doesn't seem like a "villain" either.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jvX-lp5n9hY/WNu2t36r6VI/AAAAAAAAJ20/-2JcRF_9dsAI-xuoKqIUQaaoIAQKEOU2wCLcB/s640/ian05.jpg)

I mean it doesnt match at all but im just really hoping we eventually either get  solid confimation that this is really just mikami or that this one minor thing gets touched on because theyre running out of unused previously shown off ideas.


Like theyre going to pick up the ship that is used for banjo island next episode why not have it handed off by the mysterious fleet comander lol come on kajishima plz....

Preview images just show a lot of Kuis, and PW heavily implied it was previously owned by Seto/Kuis... who don't necessarily need two ships. So I'm guessing that's who's handing it over....
Start checking CR around 11:00 today.

Some seriously questionable translation moments, even to someone who isn't fluent at all.

"they even found out that you're divorced"
"Because she's really my daughter"

...What?

And for a creator so annoyingly determined not to provide names- I have to wonder if "Jurai Shinou" is a proper name... or a description?

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on July 27, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
Some seriously questionable translation moments, even to someone who isn't fluent at all.

"they even found out that you're divorced"
"Because she's really my daughter"

...What?

And for a creator so annoyingly determined not to provide names- I have to wonder if "Jurai Shinou" is a proper name... or a description?

watch it get fixed silently in a week or two crunchy alwasy rushes theri subs n fixes silently

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 27, 2023, 09:51:29 PM
watch it get fixed silently in a week or two crunchy alwasy rushes theri subs n fixes silently

Just finished ep 3. I noted a few obvious grammatical errors that didn't change any meaning. But the daughter line was indeed confusing. I think they just got something backwards, since the older woman in the scene is clearly introduced as Jovia's mother.

Mr K is clearly introducing a lot of the older backstory elements. I'm loving it. I got a big laughk when Washu offered Jovia access to her hentai archive. I instantly recalled TTM vol 3 when she and Naja found that "seriously intense" porn video in Clay's secret files. I wonder if that's included in the deal. Seriously, though, Washu must have quite a collection.

We got some action, which was nice. And we got a cliff hanger! I won't spoil it if you haven't seen it yet. But I will say this, especially since someone mentioned it above. I believe Shinou (https://jisho.org/search/shinou) is the given name of Jurai Royal Family's first leader. In TTM vol 1 (jap) pg 163 lines 4-5 he is referred to as 樹雷皇家初代総帥 / Jurai ouke shodai shishou. No furigana, sorry. But depending on whether it's Shi-nou or Shin-ou, I could be wrong. I can easily think of a meaning for shin-ou; true king. So, yeah, I think we got a name for him.

Also, is it just me or did Ryoko look pregnant in that shot? That would really screw up the timeline. Probably just the fold in her dress playing tricks on my mind.

Quote from: Dreamr on July 28, 2023, 12:13:26 AM

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 27, 2023, 09:51:29 PM
Seriously, though, Washu must have quite a collection.

She did have backdoor access to every philosophers computers....

This is the most peak kajishima vibes episode weve had in a long time he works so well when writing literaly any other story he.

The "I havu notto done anythingu bad" subs absolutely killed me.

This was a damn fine episode. I absolutely adore Jovia snd I can't wait to see more of Masaki. She's so insanely cute! :fuck:
So nice hearing Chisa Yokoyama again, even if it was much too brief.

Caught an error.

The royal tree for Banjo Island is specified as a third generation by Quiz. But in OAV 5 ep 2 she says its a fourth generation.

And dag-gone-it those pillars of greenery look like broccoli. I hate CG in anime.

Quote from: Dreamr on July 28, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Caught an error.

The royal tree for Banjo Island is specified as a third generation by Quiz. But in OAV 5 ep 2 she says its a fourth generation.

And dag-gone-it those pillars of greenery look like broccoli. I hate CG in anime.

its a 4th

Does anyone know if there are any textless versions of the cover images for the releases? Are they maybe extra images in the BD releases? During the releases for OVA5, the textless versions were on product page on Amazon-jp, but this time they have yet to even use any specific image for the releases, all only having the promo image for the series as a whole. The character images on these covers are really nice, I'd love them without the extra noise on the covers.

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 03, 2023, 04:13:34 PM
ASTRO, The audio drama seems to indicate that yeah the reason for the huge supermarket is to funnel seinas earnings to earth money.

Thanks!

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 09, 2023, 06:04:20 PM
you know what i dont get, why did this new ova retread tsukiko telling seina about what would happen if he didn't go to space, she went over all this in the novels with him already when they came back to earth to see tenchi

EXNOA (whom I'm annoyed with for copyright striking my YouTube channel over my episode 1 review) is following proper storytelling methods. I've no doubt if left to Kajishima-sensei, he would just expect folks to have read the novels and have done. But EXNOA is assuming not everyone reads the novels, thus a retread.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on July 10, 2023, 10:53:33 AM
I don't have as much annoyance of covering things in the novels as I do with them retreading details they've already covered in the anime releases. Why go over Kenshi yet again again again with Seina? They have effectively screwed up the chronology of the shows, as it certainly SEEMS like OVA4.4 would have already occurred... but now they seem to be saying that it hasn't?

EXNOA is making the series to try to capture new fans who haven't read or watched all of the previous material. I'm fine with that. Modern canon Tenchi anime titles have an insanely high entry bar.

Okay, now that I'm caught up, just checking to see if there's info in the novels about Mirei. Who's apartment did Mirei and Jovia visit? I understand Mirei owns it now, but did she always own it? The episode implied that it was a place where they could read their BL, hentai doujinshi in peace.

there is nothing in the novels on that yet. jovia has shown up but hasnt even met seina yet in the novels i think... i havent fully listened to gxp 17 yet. but i rememebr checking the end and i think it ends with him being brought to see her

While the apartment is not explained, I'm just assuming that it's just a cheap apartment that Mirei started renting on the side. Her family seems extremely prominent and wealthy (confirmed by Washu saying she should be brought into the group that knows about Jurai and the alien federation), so a secret apartment or two could have been got just with some allowance money. Now grown up, she seems to be in charge of whatever the family business is.
But it seems odd that someone with this amount of influence wouldn't be able to move their stash surreptitiously without relying on Jovia's spirit storage space.

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 30, 2023, 01:22:18 AM

Quote from: Dreamr on July 28, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Caught an error.

The royal tree for Banjo Island is specified as a third generation by Quiz. But in OAV 5 ep 2 she says its a fourth generation.

And dag-gone-it those pillars of greenery look like broccoli. I hate CG in anime.

its a 4th

I have to believe that there may well have been a 3rd-generation Royal Tree to temporarily have the name Banjou-tou, that is later replaced with a 4th-generation Royal Tree. I can't imagine such an obvious script error being allowed to carry on to final production. How does the Juraian chick in Paradise War get her Royal Tree?

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on August 01, 2023, 05:31:25 PM

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 30, 2023, 01:22:18 AM

Quote from: Dreamr on July 28, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Caught an error.

The royal tree for Banjo Island is specified as a third generation by Quiz. But in OAV 5 ep 2 she says its a fourth generation.

And dag-gone-it those pillars of greenery look like broccoli. I hate CG in anime.

its a 4th

I have to believe that there may well have been a 3rd-generation Royal Tree to temporarily have the name Banjou-tou, that is later replaced with a 4th-generation Royal Tree. I can't imagine such an obvious script error being allowed to carry on to final production. How does the Juraian chick in Paradise War get her Royal Tree?

From what we know a 4th gen tree makes sense. 4th and down are known to be used as guardians and power sources for important places. 3rd and up are typically reserved for royal family members, also because they are intelligent/self-aware.

Palty? Don't think she has one. IIRC, she has not been officially recognized as royal family, since she was conceived through illegitimate/illegal means. Plus, that would put her over the other pirate girls. So it doesn't work with the story. But, in the future, who knows? If the tree were third gen, it could just up and decide for itself to form a contract with her.

Or, yeah, use a third-gen to do the transportation, then later replace it with a 4th gen. That is certainly within the realm of possibility. But then you'd have to transport another less powerful tree to earth later on, and likely retune the entire structure to the new tree. Why do something twice when you could do it once? Seems terribly inefficient. Its not like these sort of mistakes haven't happened before, right? I mean, 2000 years, 5000 years, what's a few millennia between friends?

Quote from: Dreamr on August 01, 2023, 11:37:33 PM

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on August 01, 2023, 05:31:25 PM

Quote from: Eff Efferson on July 30, 2023, 01:22:18 AM

Quote from: Dreamr on July 28, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Caught an error.

The royal tree for Banjo Island is specified as a third generation by Quiz. But in OAV 5 ep 2 she says its a fourth generation.

And dag-gone-it those pillars of greenery look like broccoli. I hate CG in anime.

I don't know we will have to drink jurais healing waters that never get mentioned ever again to find out.
its a 4th

I have to believe that there may well have been a 3rd-generation Royal Tree to temporarily have the name Banjou-tou, that is later replaced with a 4th-generation Royal Tree. I can't imagine such an obvious script error being allowed to carry on to final production. How does the Juraian chick in Paradise War get her Royal Tree?

From what we know a 4th gen tree makes sense. 4th and down are known to be used as guardians and power sources for important places. 3rd and up are typically reserved for royal family members, also because they are intelligent/self-aware.

Palty? Don't think she has one. IIRC, she has not been officially recognized as royal family, since she was conceived through illegitimate/illegal means. Plus, that would put her over the other pirate girls. So it doesn't work with the story. But, in the future, who knows? If the tree were third gen, it could just up and decide for itself to form a contract with her.

Or, yeah, use a third-gen to do the transportation, then later replace it with a 4th gen. That is certainly within the realm of possibility. But then you'd have to transport another less powerful tree to earth later on, and likely retune the entire structure to the new tree. Why do something twice when you could do it once? Seems terribly inefficient. Its not like these sort of mistakes haven't happened before, right? I mean, 2000 years, 5000 years, what's a few millennia between friends?

Coincidentally, as I was working on translating Tenchi Koukairoku, on the very first page Kajishima confirms that Masaki is the sister of the first Emperor. I only mention it here and now because there was some different terminology used recently, and I wanted it to be crystal clear. No real surprise, tbh. Also confirms the first King had a first generation tree. They're discussing the first TTM novel.

Ikigame: This is off topic, but have there been people who have obtained the first generation of the Imperial Tree in the past?
Kajishima: Yes, in the past. Although the number is very small.
Ikigame: So those who did so first became the Emperor of Jurai?
Kajishima: Well, at least the first Jurai Emperor was the first generation. Funaho...no, Misaki...(laughter) Tsunami and..!
Ikigame: (laughs) That's funny, I'll make the most of this place. Kajishima, you need rehabilitation too.
Kajishima: He made a contract with Tsunami and received a first generation tree.
Ikigame: And this woman on the right is?
Kajishima: She is the younger sister of the first Jurai Emperor.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on June 29, 2023, 07:47:43 PM
I've seen the picture now (but not the episode-I was having tech problems), I'd say you were right the first time (1994 and 2005 are the only possibilities for that calandar page) and the meaning this time is simply an admission that they've given up and are using a sliding timeline now. For everything to happen and for people to be the right ages as shown- if this were using the old timeline, this would have to take place a few years after OVA4- not just a couple.

...just thought of another calendar possibility that says they have REALLY moved up the timeline... another year with a May starting on a Sunday is 2016! ...that kinda looks like "2016"

I think the technology of this episode (3) does confirm that they have abandoned a concrete timeline that would normally place the year around 2000... We're at least in the 2010's (The TV has gotten bigger and flatter - the console is about 3 gens newer), if we are to go by the  calendar possibilities, it would have to be 2011 or.2016... or even... if they are COMPLETELY discounting that OVA5 recounts about 10 years of future development and using a completely sliding timeline in which the time depicted is contemporary with the time of airing, the calendar also matches 2022...

Episode 3 solved another mystery. It appears that the girl in Pinup 3 of GXP 14 is ZINV.
i was very surprised to see Masaki in the opening sequence and very happy to see her make an appearance at the end of the episode!

While we didn't see Kukoma Shou in the episode, he also made an appearance in the opening sequence. Maybe next episode?

BoB

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on August 03, 2023, 04:12:37 AM
Episode 3 solved another mystery. It appears that the girl in Pinup 3 of GXP 14 is ZINV.
i was very surprised to see Masaki in the opening sequence and very happy to see her make an appearance at the end of the episode!

While we didn't see Kukoma Shou in the episode, he also made an appearance in the opening sequence. Maybe next episode?

BoB

That would be nice. But, that would put us directly into Paradise Wars proper, since Shou didn't show (I swear that wasn't intentional) until novel 1, when the island was already inhabitable. Maybe ep 6.

In the time between episode releases, I have missed some details and will need to do a rewatch but might as well check here first. In the 'timeline project' thread, Ned suggests a calendar plug in Episode 2. This is huge! Are we really seeing all the original characters now in their mid to late twenties!?

I think Shou in the credits just points to "what's coming" - not strictly saying that he'll show up. But maybe we'll get the earliest stuff. Like, Shou's mom is shopping at the Yamada Super Store (and IIRC it's mentioned that it's right after their expansion) when Seina's mom gives her the flyer for Banjo Island. So, we could maybe get that and her telling Shou that they're all planning to emigrate there. --- Also makes sense because the first episodes here set up that the cabbit girls are going to be working at the store, maybe in this version he comes to the store and they see something in him that inspires them to give him the flyer. They WERE very ready to accept Shou when they met him and eventually became his "crew" in the book. Almost as if they already knew him.


Preview image and description are up on the Kinematics show page (which I've put on a page in the wiki), the next episode will mostly deal with landing Banjo Island and introducing Airen and Souren. There doesn't seem to be a spoiler tag here, so that's the best I can do.

Quote from: WaitoKon on August 04, 2023, 10:43:12 AM
In the time between episode releases, I have missed some details and will need to do a rewatch but might as well check here first. In the 'timeline project' thread, Ned suggests a calendar plug in Episode 2. This is huge! Are we really seeing all the original characters now in their mid to late twenties!?

If it were 2005 and a concrete timeline, Tenchi would be 28-29. That's the problem. He's not, Kenshi's a toddler and they depict a world that's at least in the 2010's.
We're still about 8 years after beginning events, it's just that we can't say that's necessarily 1992 anymore because they're using a sliding timeline.

It's like Detective Conan (well, not that bad- not 30 years of content in a timeframe that's supposed to be a couple years)- the show roughly depicts the time of the show at release. Otherwise, Nobuyuki would be showing off his new pager and the most explicit thing Jovia and Mirei could watch would be Gravitation.

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on August 04, 2023, 11:09:51 AM

Quote from: WaitoKon on August 04, 2023, 10:43:12 AM
In the time between episode releases, I have missed some details and will need to do a rewatch but might as well check here first. In the 'timeline project' thread, Ned suggests a calendar plug in Episode 2. This is huge! Are we really seeing all the original characters now in their mid to late twenties!?

If it were 2005 and a concrete timeline, Tenchi would be 28-29. That's the problem. He's not, Kenshi's a toddler and they depict a world that's at least in the 2010's.
We're still about 8 years after beginning events, it's just that we can't say that's necessarily 1992 anymore because they're using a sliding timeline.

It's like Detective Conan (well, not that bad- not 30 years of content in a timeframe that's supposed to be a couple years)- the show roughly depicts the time of the show at release. Otherwise, Nobuyuki would be showing off his new pager and the most explicit thing Jovia and Mirei could watch would be Gravitation.

JOBIA is defiantly a Shuichi X Ryuichi stan

Just wanted to let you all know that I found a full set of the OVA 5 Special Edition Blu-rays for about $150.
With my current Drama CD transcription and translation load, don't expect to see OVA 5 until after I finish OVA 4. Prolly late September. OVA 4's Drama CDs are huge!

BoB

The Kinematics site now has some details on vol. 5
(https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/images/bluray/package/gxp_bd05_pk.jpg)

https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/story.html#005

Thoughts on the title?
「月影叩扉」-- 「Tsukikage 叩扉」(no translator I've put that through puts the second half in romanji)
Whatever translator Edge uses:
says "Moonshadow Knocking Door"... but that's gotta be crap.

An Allusion to Tsukiko there... and part of the story may take place on the moon... or in any case, they just left the moon.
Playing word games again

gooble translat :
Tsukiko, who had symptoms of a cold during the "dream" experience during the final adjustment of the board island, was dreaming in a hazy consciousness. However, even though they were just the beginning of their involvement, they will raise the potential of Tsukiko's "magic". While it is unclear whether it is a dream or reality, he catches a glimpse of the memory of the magic essence "system", but it is Tsukiko's nostalgic memory.

calling it now im bettinf Tsukiko is the villan of the ova, She's gonna have a weird relapse into ayuko.

Watching new episode now. Jovia's magic is... strangely powerful. I mean, literally creating a body and then linking someone's astral body to it, involuntarily? That's powerful imo. Ofc, its entirely possible Masaki wanted it to happen.

Not impressed with the image of Masaki naked. Could have been better.

Possible inconsistency: Quis says Seto got in touch with Earth's Masaki family 700 years ago. At first I was like no way she would have known at that point. But then I recalled that Azusa's arrival was what triggered the release of information that revealed Masaki's location. So maybe she meant Masaki, the original King's sister's family, rather than Yosho's decendants. But I'm not sure how relevant that would be. Are they even important enough to warrant that kind of attention?

imo Ryoko and Masaki would totally get along. Can't wait for them to meet.

Very disappointed in Mikagami's exterior shot. No textures at all. Just bland basic colors. Compared to older Jurai tree ships, this is kind of disappointing. Maybe since its a 5-second mostly static shot, they decided to save the money. Except a stock simple wooden texture is stupid easy to do on a CG model.

"Jojobiatch" L-O-L.

Yeah, Yosho contacted Kanemitsu about 600 years ago, that's when Seto figured out what happened. But, 600...700... what's the difference? It's just like last week to these guys, Kuis being over 10,000 years old (no date for when she was "made.")

I noticed that they didn't spoil the Souren reveal immediately... unless he really has changed by this time.

But yeah, Jovia really is a very powerful "capable idiot"- head of her guild on Barrium and he considered her "professional" when working - but only when working.

I'm not going to lie, but I loved having stuff about Masaki in the episode. As mentioned, Juvia's mage abilities to create a body and bind and astral form to it is amazing. But this possibly clashes with what was in Omatsuri Zenjitsu no Yoru 21 Seiki-ban 1, where I thought Tokimi gave Masaki a new, physical body in the future. But that was written years ago, and I think Kajishima-sensei once said that the official releases trump the doujin releases.

I actually got a bit emotional when Tsunami showed up. Someone said they thought she showed up in OVA 5, but I don't remember that. Sasami was old enough to now have the two dots of Tsunami on her forehead, but she wasn't doing stuff as Tsunami, even though technically, Tsunami and Sasami are the same person. That aside, it was great seeing Tsunami get involved, and it made sense, seeing as how Masaki and Shinou (sp) were the founders of Jurai. However, I wonder how much of that would have been clear to a new viewer.

Finally, the magic realm stuff within Kamidake II was interesting, but I couldn't help but feel that Kajishima-sensei just doesn't know when to stop with the female (or "female") fetish types.

Anyone know the significance of the sign?
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tenchi/images/1/12/GXPOVA4_17_entrance.JPG)

Best guess is it's the guildhall sign.

Quote from: Kagato3 on August 30, 2023, 12:25:23 AM
Best guess is it's the guildhall sign.

:this:

Fellow nerds, there is something I'd like to discuss since the terms keep coming up in this newest series. In the subs, there is a definite difference between "spirit thread" and "astral". I've always considered them to be the at least similar if not identical. Are they the same, or no? Discuss.

Also, for us real old-timers, when Jovia is playing an 8-bit JRPG on the bridge with a SNES controller, the sound effects are from Pac-Man.  :chord:

What exactly was Kuis suggesting when she told Kiroko to "use her brother or sister" to handle the situation with  Kiroko doesn't have a little sister, unless she's referring to Kai's betrothed / Seina's little sister.

@nonsuch Ned, I ran episode 5 summary through deepl. It says: Tsukiko, who had symptoms of a cold during the "dream" experience during the final adjustment of the board island, was dreaming in a hazy consciousness.
However, even though they were just the beginning of their involvement, they will raise the potential of Tsukiko's "magic".
While it is unclear whether it is a dream or reality, he/she catches a glimpse of the memory of the magic essence "system", which is also a nostalgic memory of Tsukiko.
At the same time, a shadow appears in Masakimura Tsukiko's house. Kai infiltrated to confirm "last night's love affair", but there is no "trace", disappointing.
When I look around, I can't help but see a "pamphlet" delivered by GP courier to Seinan."

Kai looks through the house to see if his mother slept with Seina? Damn, son. You brave.

Not just Pac Man. The Atari 2600 version of Pac Man.

From everything I've seen Astral seems to refer to the soul as a whole. Spirit threads seem to be the connection between a soul? and other locations that allow magical teleportation

Quote from: Dreamr on August 31, 2023, 02:20:17 AM

Quote from: Kagato3 on August 30, 2023, 12:25:23 AM
Best guess is it's the guildhall sign.

:this:

"Which" guild though? A personal guild of Seina's (although that would typically be know as a party)? The Adventurer's Guild? The Pharmacy Guild? ...the guild of sword-wielding knitters?

Quote
Fellow nerds, there is something I'd like to discuss since the terms keep coming up in this newest series. In the subs, there is a definite difference between "spirit thread" and "astral". I've always considered them to be the at least similar if not identical. Are they the same, or no? Discuss.

Astrals are basically souls, they reside in the astral sea when a person passes. I like Tsunami's line in this episode about Masaki's original astral "breaking up in the astral sea."
It's a concept used in a few religions, including multiple Eastern religions.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Astral_Pattern (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Astral_Pattern)

I haven't written an article specifically on Spirit Threads, but have collected information about magic in general.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Magic (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Magic)

Spirit threads are, as far as I can tell, more like a personal "network"- wherever a magician goes they can attach spirit threads to connect themselves to places and people. In the 17th novel, there's a chapter where Seina observes people on Barrium attaching them to women they are attracted to (allusion or joke about the "red string of fate" - except guys attach them to their favorite working girls or bar-girls)- and that one group trying to attach lines to Seina so they can track him. By attaching lines to places and people in Renza to himself and places on Earth, people can travel almost instantaneously across these lines. In the third episode, Seina transports the whole Banjo Island ship from the location where they were being attacked by pirates to a location they had just been, because it was on the same spirit thread. An exceptional thing about Seina is his imagination in using his spirit threads. Magic is limited by mana and a person's imagination, and most can't conceive of transporting an island sized ship instantaneously, but Seina and his almost inexhaustible amount of mana can do it. He put the ship in the spirit thread and moved it along that thread. There are also obviously spirit threads attached directly to the magical area in the Kamidake, explaining why people can travel directly there without having to gain access outside of the ship.

QuoteWhat exactly was Kuis suggesting when she told Kiroko to "use her brother or sister" to handle the situation with  Kiroko doesn't have a little sister, unless she's referring to Kai's betrothed / Seina's little sister.

Politics and the matter of who is "first wife."
Kuis is telling Tsukiko to make babies (a sibling to Kiriko) with Seina to make sure that Seina doesn't have a child with Jovia first. She/they want "first wife" status to remain in the hands of a Juraian. Jovia, and apparently Airen, beat Kiriko and the others to a formal ceremony- but it can be said that the failed wedding protects Kiriko's claim as "first wife" in that way. But if Jovia or another non-Juraian were to have the first kid with Seina, that would muddy things.

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@nonsuch Ned, I ran episode 5 summary through deepl. It says: Tsukiko, who had symptoms of a cold during the "dream" experience during the final adjustment of the board island, was dreaming in a hazy consciousness.
However, even though they were just the beginning of their involvement, they will raise the potential of Tsukiko's "magic".
While it is unclear whether it is a dream or reality, he/she catches a glimpse of the memory of the magic essence "system", which is also a nostalgic memory of Tsukiko.
At the same time, a shadow appears in Masakimura Tsukiko's house. Kai infiltrated to confirm "last night's love affair", but there is no "trace", disappointing.
When I look around, I can't help but see a "pamphlet" delivered by GP courier to Seinan."

Yeah, I used a couple translators to summarize it on the wiki (one I like: https://www.romajidesu.com/translator (https://www.romajidesu.com/translator)). The section where Tsukiko is traveling along the path to the "guild" entrance, upside down for awhile, and noticing the "green mist" around her as magic seems to be the dream section they are referring to.

I'm mostly wondering what the most fluent translators think about the episode title: 「月影叩扉」
I am currently using "Tsukikage Tapping Door" on the wiki, but I haven't gotten one of these titles right yet.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Tsukikage_Tapping_Door (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Tsukikage_Tapping_Door)

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on September 05, 2023, 10:50:19 AM

Quote from: Dreamr on August 31, 2023, 02:20:17 AM

Quote from: Kagato3 on August 30, 2023, 12:25:23 AM
Best guess is it's the guildhall sign.

:this:

"Which" guild though? A personal guild of Seina's (although that would typically be know as a party)? The Adventurer's Guild? The Pharmacy Guild? ...the guild of sword-wielding knitters?

Quote
Fellow nerds, there is something I'd like to discuss since the terms keep coming up in this newest series. In the subs, there is a definite difference between "spirit thread" and "astral". I've always considered them to be the at least similar if not identical. Are they the same, or no? Discuss.

Astrals are basically souls, they reside in the astral sea when a person passes. I like Tsunami's line in this episode about Masaki's original astral "breaking up in the astral sea."
It's a concept used in a few religions, including multiple Eastern religions.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Astral_Pattern (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Astral_Pattern)

I haven't written an article specifically on Spirit Threads, but have collected information about magic in general.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Magic (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Magic)

Spirit threads are, as far as I can tell, more like a personal "network"- wherever a magician goes they can attach spirit threads to connect themselves to places and people. In the 17th novel, there's a chapter where Seina observes people on Barrium attaching them to women they are attracted to (allusion or joke about the "red string of fate" - except guys attach them to their favorite working girls or bar-girls)- and that one group trying to attach lines to Seina so they can track him. By attaching lines to places and people in Renza to himself and places on Earth, people can travel almost instantaneously across these lines. In the third episode, Seina transports the whole Banjo Island ship from the location where they were being attacked by pirates to a location they had just been, because it was on the same spirit thread. An exceptional thing about Seina is his imagination in using his spirit threads. Magic is limited by mana and a person's imagination, and most can't conceive of transporting an island sized ship instantaneously, but Seina and his almost inexhaustible amount of mana can do it. He put the ship in the spirit thread and moved it along that thread. There are also obviously spirit threads attached directly to the magical area in the Kamidake, explaining why people can travel directly there without having to gain access outside of the ship.

QuoteWhat exactly was Kuis suggesting when she told Kiroko to "use her brother or sister" to handle the situation with  Kiroko doesn't have a little sister, unless she's referring to Kai's betrothed / Seina's little sister.

Politics and the matter of who is "first wife."
Kuis is telling Tsukiko to make babies (a sibling to Kiriko) with Seina to make sure that Seina doesn't have a child with Jovia first. She/they want "first wife" status to remain in the hands of a Juraian. Jovia, and apparently Airen, beat Kiriko and the others to a formal ceremony- but it can be said that the failed wedding protects Kiriko's claim as "first wife" in that way. But if Jovia or another non-Juraian were to have the first kid with Seina, that would muddy things.

Quote
@nonsuch Ned, I ran episode 5 summary through deepl. It says: Tsukiko, who had symptoms of a cold during the "dream" experience during the final adjustment of the board island, was dreaming in a hazy consciousness.
However, even though they were just the beginning of their involvement, they will raise the potential of Tsukiko's "magic".
While it is unclear whether it is a dream or reality, he/she catches a glimpse of the memory of the magic essence "system", which is also a nostalgic memory of Tsukiko.
At the same time, a shadow appears in Masakimura Tsukiko's house. Kai infiltrated to confirm "last night's love affair", but there is no "trace", disappointing.
When I look around, I can't help but see a "pamphlet" delivered by GP courier to Seinan."

Yeah, I used a couple translators to summarize it on the wiki (one I like: https://www.romajidesu.com/translator (https://www.romajidesu.com/translator)). The section where Tsukiko is traveling along the path to the "guild" entrance, upside down for awhile, and noticing the "green mist" around her as magic seems to be the dream section they are referring to.

I'm mostly wondering what the most fluent translators think about the episode title: 「月影叩扉」
I am currently using "Tsukikage Tapping Door" on the wiki, but I haven't gotten one of these titles right yet.
https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Tsukikage_Tapping_Door (https://tenchi.fandom.com/wiki/Tsukikage_Tapping_Door)

spirit threads are etheric threads. its an irl occultism thing.  totaly different layer of reality from the astral. one is the archetypal layer the other is the energetic one is a personality the other is movement  energy and blueprint

I've integrated that into the Magic article. Already have "Astral body" linked in the Astral Pattern page, so that makes a good companion.

Let's have a brief chat about subtitles.

Now my Japanese is nowhere near fluent, but I understand enough to not be happy with the Shido Hen subtitles.
The Crunchyroll subs are so-so.
The EraiRaws subs are marginally better, but they typically don't respond to fixes for their subs. At least they haven't yet.

I've done a lot of searching and have only found a couple of places with Shido Hen subs.
I went through the BluRays for episodes 1-4 this morning in hopes of finding Japanese subs or captioning with no luck. I'm actually kinda pissed about that. You'd think someone at Kinematics or Exnoa would have thought of j-subs or CC for the hearing impaired over here, but no.

I got a wild hair this morning and ripped the audio from episodes 1-4 and have done the initial transcription. Gotta get my kid to verify the kanji. This will take a backseat to the Dai Yon Ki and Dai Go Ki audio dramas.

Where are you folks going for subtitles?

Thanks!
BoB

i've never seen a single anime blu-ray come with japanese subtitles.

I got caught up tonight, and I'm really struggling to care about this OVA. I don't find Tsukiko or Jovia interesting, and I don't care for all the fantasy stuff being forced in. The series has established technology that does all the things Seina and Jovia are doing with magic, so it just feels needlessly tacked on. I'm also over this point in time of the Tenchi universe. The last 3 OVAs have all taken place between Kenshi's birth and him being sent to Geminar, and I'm ready for the series to move past that.

The GXP characters I like from the anime aren't present, and as someone who hasn't read the novels, I'm not being given enough time with the novel characters here to care about them. I wish the girls based on Dual characters got a bit more to do because I love Dual and am interested in them. Tsukiko and Jovia are our Ryoko and Ayeka or Kiriko and Amane for this OVA, but I don't think they have good chemistry with Seina or each other.

Production quality has been pretty good, and this is the best animated OVA since they started making them again. So it at least has that going for it.

Aslo, I just had a thought. Is the dryad in the fantasy world inside the Kamidake the same as the one from those If doujins? In episode 4 someone said Seina was the lord of the mansion in the fantasy world, but he said the estate wasn't actually his. Something like that, I don't remember the exact wording. I'm wondering if the guy from those If doujins was there originally. I could be completely off base with this though.

I don't know if they've been very explicit about it in the anime yet, but there is a very important thing about Magic that technology has a problem with. Magic should, ultimately, be the solution to getting Kenshi back... and allowing him to go back and forth if he wants.
Do they need to spend this much time on this period?
I think it's fun. Jovia is a favorite to some. I like having her around as a punching bag.
Although they seem to have abandoned the idea of her being a purposeful reincarnation, I think she's supposed to be analogous to Kiyone Masaki. Her talking about being reorn and the audio book rehashing the same thing seems to suggest that she was reborn to fill the gap in the universe left by Kiyone's death... Somehow the universe needs a super obnoxious quasi-sadist.

The Kinematics site has now been updated with pictures and a synopsis of the final episode that covers the pirate kids arriving and seems to end with Shou's arrival. The title, for once, seems straight forward: "Welcome to Paradise."

One thing missing. Any hint of a "shadowy antagonist"... you know, the one from the preview image.
So, I am pretty sure that the "shadow figure WAS supposed to be Mirei, but her hair design was changed slightly, giving her the long hair in the back, and now it doesn't match her final design.

Too bad, I do sort of wish it had at least asmall antagonist.
The only other person I could think it could possibly be would be Palty's mother- she's definitely a "villain." Although not well done in PW, she is a character who has done enough evil to be hated.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on September 16, 2023, 11:22:44 PM
I got caught up tonight, and I'm really struggling to care about this OVA. I don't find Tsukiko or Jovia interesting, and I don't care for all the fantasy stuff being forced in. The series has established technology that does all the things Seina and Jovia are doing with magic, so it just feels needlessly tacked on. I'm also over this point in time of the Tenchi universe. The last 3 OVAs have all taken place between Kenshi's birth and him being sent to Geminar, and I'm ready for the series to move past that.

The GXP characters I like from the anime aren't present, and as someone who hasn't read the novels, I'm not being given enough time with the novel characters here to care about them. I wish the girls based on Dual characters got a bit more to do because I love Dual and am interested in them. Tsukiko and Jovia are our Ryoko and Ayeka or Kiriko and Amane for this OVA, but I don't think they have good chemistry with Seina or each other.

Production quality has been pretty good, and this is the best animated OVA since they started making them again. So it at least has that going for it.

Aslo, I just had a thought. Is the dryad in the fantasy world inside the Kamidake the same as the one from those If doujins? In episode 4 someone said Seina was the lord of the mansion in the fantasy world, but he said the estate wasn't actually his. Something like that, I don't remember the exact wording. I'm wondering if the guy from those If doujins was there originally. I could be completely off base with this though.

nope the if nanika series has a red haired maid

https://kinematics.jp/tenchi-gxp/images/story_sbn/st5/st5_04.jpg the shadowy figure is tsukiko

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on August 25, 2023, 09:50:43 AM
Yeah, Yosho contacted Kanemitsu about 600 years ago, that's when Seto figured out what happened. But, 600...700... what's the difference? It's just like last week to these guys, Kuis being over 10,000 years old (no date for when she was "made.")

I noticed that they didn't spoil the Souren reveal immediately... unless he really has changed by this time.

But yeah, Jovia really is a very powerful "capable idiot"- head of her guild on Barrium and he considered her "professional" when working - but only when working.

Since Quis is a mirror of Seto, and Seto is 5000, Quis cannot be 10,000.

月影叩扉 Tsukikage Kouhi "Moonlight Knocking" is the best I can come up with. Might be a name of an unknown character that will be introduced. Or some strange reference to someone who comes knocking at night. Maybe Tsukiko will pay Seina a visit in the middle of the night.

Summary for episode 6:
At the request of Seto and others, Seina and his group managed to get Banjo Island into shape and even hosted the pirates and other guild members.
However, they did not make it to the facility in time, and the people of Masaki and the Seinas returned to the Earth where they are busy with their daily work.
They will continue to maintain Banjo Island and accept and monitor the pirates, but the observers from Earth also arrive and the hectic days begin.
However, what went wrong there, a family of earthlings immigrates to the island, which is also a happening.
Hearing that only the boy will arrive first, the observer "Minamida" is left to his right to make adjustments.

Pictures confirm Miron Pham, Shou Kukoma, and the 4 pirate girls.

Episode 5 watched. Yawn. Honestly, it was pretty boring, other than Tsukiko being some sort of magical savant right out of the gate.

It seems Crunchyroll couldn't figure out the episode title either, and simply used the japanese title: "Tsukikagekouhi".

I have to say, besides the hilarious exploration of Jovia's backstory, this OVA has been really underwhelming.

This isn't really a sequel to GXP; this is another Paradise War interquel. Too much time focused on boring filler, like the creation of Banjo Island and helping out at Misaki village.

The magic system would be a cool idea...bur I hate how it's made Seina and everyone else OP now.

What I liked most about Seina was that, body enhancement and access to a first generation seed/mecha aside, he wasn't this godlike OP being like Tenchi.

Seriously, every named character in this universe feels like watching OP gods just doing random day to day stuff. There's no personal or emotional drama like in the original OVAs. It's the most boring kind of SoL you can have.

One of the big changes in Tenchi Universe that I legit liked more than the original OVAs post episode 13; streamlining everyone's backstory and nerfing power levels.

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on September 28, 2023, 11:08:46 PM
I have to say, besides the hilarious exploration of Jovia's backstory, this OVA has been really underwhelming.

This isn't really a sequel to GXP; this is another Paradise War interquel. Too much time focused on boring filler, like the creation of Banjo Island and helping out at Misaki village.

The magic system would be a cool idea...bur I hate how it's made Seina and everyone else OP now.

What I liked most about Seina was that, body enhancement and access to a first generation seed/mecha aside, he wasn't this godlike OP being like Tenchi.

Seriously, every named character in this universe feels like watching OP gods just doing random day to day stuff. There's no personal or emotional drama like in the original OVAs. It's the most boring kind of SoL you can have.

One of the big changes in Tenchi Universe that I legit liked more than the original OVAs post episode 13; streamlining everyone's backstory and nerfing power levels.

yeah tbh letting seina use magick outside of renza honestly ruins his character also he no longer has any real chaos around him which makes him plain.

I am enjoying this ova but yeah he's been off his game  they just need to give him a new series to work on.

GP Cadet 87, agreed! I laughed at "OP gods just doing random day to day stuff" because it's so true. I do miss the emotive storylines in the original OVAs, and while I do also genuinely enjoy niche deep-dive exposition and political machinations, a lot of the recent OVA content kind of feels like a meeting that could have been an email. But, I appreciate any time we get to spend with these guys even if it's just watching them talk about stuff. I hope we can move beyond the interquel time period soon.

I really enjoy Jovia as a character - she is silly and fun. It's nice to see the Renza magic people animated.

Crunchyroll is so funny with their efforts on the title translations. Episode 4 is still just "untitled".

You're going to get the whole OP gods doing slice of life stuff because well that's sort of the point of tenchi. Don't forget the series came out of an idea of what if we followed the Knight Sabers doing day to day stuff not the big drama and fights from bubblegum crisis.

Quote from: Eff Efferson on September 29, 2023, 06:46:32 PM

Quote from: GP cadet 87 on September 28, 2023, 11:08:46 PM
I have to say, besides the hilarious exploration of Jovia's backstory, this OVA has been really underwhelming.

This isn't really a sequel to GXP; this is another Paradise War interquel. Too much time focused on boring filler, like the creation of Banjo Island and helping out at Misaki village.

The magic system would be a cool idea...bur I hate how it's made Seina and everyone else OP now.

What I liked most about Seina was that, body enhancement and access to a first generation seed/mecha aside, he wasn't this godlike OP being like Tenchi.

Seriously, every named character in this universe feels like watching OP gods just doing random day to day stuff. There's no personal or emotional drama like in the original OVAs. It's the most boring kind of SoL you can have.

One of the big changes in Tenchi Universe that I legit liked more than the original OVAs post episode 13; streamlining everyone's backstory and nerfing power levels.

yeah tbh letting seina use magick outside of renza honestly ruins his character also he no longer has any real chaos around him which makes him plain.

I am enjoying this ova but yeah he's been off his game  they just need to give him a new series to work on.

if i remember from the gxp novels Tokimi mentions when saina and tenchi are haveing the chat about tenchis problems
“He's immature not immortal. Seina Yamada. It is possible to kill him if he is destroyed at his
existing size.”
“So! And who's able to do that!? You're not able to do that, so isn't it almost as good as
immortality?”
It was hard to imagine a person destroying something that was the size of millions of light years
in scale.
“There are some high-dimensional creaturesin Zara that can, so can a first-generation Royal Tree,
and Seina's Yamada Kamidake ... ... And something which Seina Yamada could potentially take
control of in the future could also do it.”
i think this is mentioning the magic system due to some where in gxp novel 17 Nayuta was talking to saina about the magic system comeing from a different dimension

Quote from: Dreamr on September 24, 2023, 05:54:29 PM
月影叩扉 Tsukikage Kouhi "Moonlight Knocking" is the best I can come up with. Might be a name of an unknown character that will be introduced. Or some strange reference to someone who comes knocking at night. Maybe Tsukiko will pay Seina a visit in the middle of the night.

"night visitor" = "booty call"

Quote from: Kagato3 on September 01, 2023, 05:50:43 PM
Not just Pac Man. The Atari 2600 version of Pac Man.

Not the first time that sound effect has been used in the series. I want to say OVA 3 used it as well, but I don't have my discs with me.

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on September 15, 2023, 10:35:43 PM
Let's have a brief chat about subtitles.

Now my Japanese is nowhere near fluent, but I understand enough to not be happy with the Shido Hen subtitles.
The Crunchyroll subs are so-so.
The EraiRaws subs are marginally better, but they typically don't respond to fixes for their subs. At least they haven't yet.

...

Where are you folks going for subtitles?

I thought EraiRaws subs were CR's. I've been okay with the subs so far. At least they are using honorifics.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on September 15, 2023, 11:23:41 PM
i've never seen a single anime blu-ray come with japanese subtitles.

I don't have my collection with me. I was thinking I did own a JP anime BD with English subs, but I could be wrong. I know I have some live-action something (can't remember what) that has English subs, and not very good ones. Better than bootleg crap, but it was clear that English wasn't the subtitler's first language.

Quote from: Ryo-Okay on September 16, 2023, 11:22:44 PM
I got caught up tonight, and I'm really struggling to care about this OVA. I don't find Tsukiko or Jovia interesting, and I don't care for all the fantasy stuff being forced in.

I hear ya. Jovia has never been an interesting character from her introduction in OVA 5. She's a very niche, fujoshi character for Japanese audiences. And Tsukiko is the MILF fetish, fantasy character. Plus, the fantasy genre is a means for Kajishima-sensei to get all of his writing fantasies into a single franchise. He kinda touched on the fantasy stuff with elves in War on Geminar. And now he's gone full blast in that direction with the GXP novels.

QuoteThe GXP characters I like from the anime aren't present, and as someone who hasn't read the novels, I'm not being given enough time with the novel characters here to care about them. I wish the girls based on Dual characters got a bit more to do because I love Dual and am interested in them.

To me, this should have been a GXP reboot series, adapting the novels, rather than jumping ahead in the novels to have a bridge between TM!R, GXP, and Paradise War.

QuoteProduction quality has been pretty good, and this is the best animated OVA since they started making them again. So it at least has that going for it.

I agree.

Quote from: Dreamr on September 28, 2023, 08:02:16 PM
Episode 5 watched. Yawn. Honestly, it was pretty boring, other than Tsukiko being some sort of magical savant right out of the gate.

I sense a death flag, especially since Tsukiko wasn't in OVA 5.

That aside, I found this to be the weakest episode of the lot. It isn't that I hate the episode. It looks nice, but I'm not invested in the fantasy, magic elements. I miss Seina's OG harem. One would have thought they would have found time to call Seina. Having a story featuring the cabbit harem would have been more interesting to me than Jovia or Tsukiko.

Yah, it would have been a lot more interesting if it focused on the cabbit harem. I feel the Tsukiko angle just isn't working. And with only one episode left, I still can't see where its going, or why I should care.

On the other hand, it's funny I can always tell which one is D by her half-lidded eyes.

Maybe next we'll get Paradise Wars proper.

Well I have started reading Tenchi GXP novels it's quite different from anime. I agree with AstroNerdBoy that they should reboot GXP anime instead.

as much as that would be cool, I shudder to think how the community would react to Seina sitting on his throne in the seaside cave with all those women at his feet, including Airi and Seto.

Quote from: Dreamr on October 18, 2023, 11:17:14 PM
as much as that would be cool, I shudder to think how the community would react to Seina sitting on his throne in the seaside cave with all those women at his feet, including Airi and Seto.

Airi wasn't included, Mikami (sexy version) was though. Although if an anime depicted what Airi was doing at the time, it would have as much if not more of an effect (de-aged and fooling around with the similarly de-aged Yosho).

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on October 19, 2023, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: Dreamr on October 18, 2023, 11:17:14 PM
as much as that would be cool, I shudder to think how the community would react to Seina sitting on his throne in the seaside cave with all those women at his feet, including Airi and Seto.

Airi wasn't included, Mikami (sexy version) was though. Although if an anime depicted what Airi was doing at the time, it would have as much if not more of an effect (de-aged and fooling around with the similarly de-aged Yosho).

Woops, you're right. It was Mikami, not Airi.

Quote from: Dreamr on October 19, 2023, 07:32:49 PM

Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on October 19, 2023, 04:18:16 PM

Quote from: Dreamr on October 18, 2023, 11:17:14 PM
as much as that would be cool, I shudder to think how the community would react to Seina sitting on his throne in the seaside cave with all those women at his feet, including Airi and Seto.

Airi wasn't included, Mikami (sexy version) was though. Although if an anime depicted what Airi was doing at the time, it would have as much if not more of an effect (de-aged and fooling around with the similarly de-aged Yosho).

Woops, you're right. It was Mikami, not Airi.

if an anime depicted what she was doing when seina was bathing neiju it would be cancled

i did not have tomi not being mikami on my bingo card also do you realise they couldve made a house for the contestants at any time n just didnt

got to watch it all even through the end credits i liked ep 6

Well, I finished it, and well, I feel very underwhelmed.

If it didn't dedicate so much of the screentime to setting up Paradise War, and instead kept on the theme from episode 1, showing how much Seina has changed despite still suffering from his bad luck and the fallout of that, it would've been so much better, so much more interesting.

The magic was a legit cool idea, but it just served to make everyone insanely OP.

We don't see him interact with the main girls of his harem at all, he barely interacts with his family.

That's the biggest reason calling this a sequel feel like false advertising.

The only other part I legit liked was Jovia's backstory. which I found funny. Everything else was boring filler to me.

Quote from: Eff Efferson on October 25, 2023, 01:27:06 PM
i did not have tomi not being mikami on my bingo card also do you realise they couldve made a house for the contestants at any time n just didnt

Really having problems explaining the "logic" there... Trying to show that their magic is extremely powerful... but also half-heartedly saying there are limits.

Tsukiko can make whole houses.... or just base floorplans...

And Tsukiko adds a difference to a possible adaptation... suddenly a completely new person... I'd guess being a voice of reason at the school that was never really there.

...Even as originally done in the novels, the reasoning to keep Shou in a tent never made sense. They made an entire convention center and hot spring... but not a house.
...They brought a camper trailer with a working shower up a mountain... but he can't use it...

I have to say, episode 6 felt cheap (as in EXNOA ran out of money)...and it doesn't feel like the end of a series. I get that this OVA is just to bridge the GXP novels with the Paradise War novels. But to me, there should have been more. I suppose if I had read the novels, I'd have an explanation of sorts on how things got established. But in terms of its own story, the GXP OVA felt hollow and pointless.

I'll write more in the blog, and maybe when I finally get moved into my new home, I can do a video reviewing the whole series. But here are issues I had.

1) The whole Tsukiko x Seina stuff was completely pointless.
2) As much as I liked seeing Masaki, she was pointless and turned into rubbish in episode 5.
3) Jovia is pointless.
4) The cabbits seem interesting, but not enough time is spent with them to flesh them out more.
5) There should have been some sort of cameo from Seina's other wives. I'm not saying they should have visited, but the technology exists for a "space phone call", so why not have it?
6) Speaking of contacts, outside of Kai, Seina has ZERO contact with his family. Why? Clearly, the cabbits (and I guess Jovia and Tsukiko) keep Seina's unlucky elements suppressed a lot. But even if direct contact was too much (and I don't buy that if Kai can contact Seina), then a phone call? Seriously!
7) The magic system is something I'm not buying into. As I understand it, space technology (Jurai, GXP, whatever) can do pretty much everything the magic can do.
8) And as usual, the series relies on viewers previously reading the GXP novels and the Paradise War novels. There were some improvements on this front, but not enough.

I need to hit the sack, but while I certainly didn't hate the series, I felt it was just underwhelming. And that last episode really felt like EXNOA ran out of money.

I agree with ANB on pretty much everything. There were a couple scenes that were just stills for almost a minute with dialog being spoken by a character literally facing away from the screen. I instantly felt that they must have run out of money.

The entire Tsukiko angle just collapsed in this episode. Same for Masaki, which is really disappointing, since there was so much she could offer. But... considering how she was originally characterized in the novel, I'm not surprised. What was the word they used to describe her knowledge of past events? Low-brow and common?

There was one angle I found interesting. When Dird's grandfather is talking about the old days, what he said was almost word-for-word what happened to Azusa and Funaho on Earth, right down to the mechanical "orochi" shown in the background. And the girl at his knee, even looked vaguely like a young Funaho.

It was interesting to see how aggressive Dird was before becoming settling in.

This series reminds me of french cooking. Throw it all in the pot and boil it. See what floats to the surface.

I will ofc always watch any Tenchi OAV content we get. They can have my money, even if I criticize it to death. Is anyone familiar with the saying "We're hardest on the ones we love?"

I'm ok with all the world building as it will pay off later, assuming we get what we want with a series centered on Tenchi's kids.

World building is great. But the characters in the world need love too. As it was, a lot of things in the series felt like jangling keys without substance. And I admit, I was gushing over some of it, like Masaki's appearance, or Tsunami's voiced cameo.

if i remember right  i think ova5 and this one is like saying goodbye to having tenchi and saina as main chars,  I wouldn't mine a paradise war anime even after the events happened since we dont know the name of the new nation shu now has is called. or we can go with the kids when they are maybe early teen

I think they should do a Paradise War anime adaptation, but considering how Kajishima-sensei is, I kinda doubt we get one.

He really seems to want to, the companies are the ones that seem on the fence. Last doujin afterward pretty much said that. The upside is that he says he'll get back to the novels until something else happens.

I admit, I didn't read the last doujinshi statement from Kajishima-sensei. For a studio, and anime adaptation would seem to be an easy call, more so if you keep the adaptation faithful.

Although that's already being changed, with Tsukiko now seemingly having an active role. Nayuta is also a factor. Presumably, she can just stay "inside" Seina if she has too (it's never explained what her deal is now. In episode 4 she was shown "linking" with Seina at one time- as if she were still "part" of him- but that was the only time she did so).


Really, that may be the big question.
What part of this OVA was the least developed/least satisfying tease?

Tsukiko's unexplained flashbacks?
The development of the Yamada superstore- which the girls never got to work at?
Souren?
KurryKoochie (or whatever her name is)
Aspects of Jovia's story?

...for me it may be the introduction and instant disappearance of Zinv-chan. I know that her, story, as well as those of Nayuta, Souren, Airen, and others are things to be covered in the novels... but why even bother showing her if she never gets to come back? Why doesn't she get to play on the beach with the cabbits? She has a "body" now, does she get to interact with anyone or does she just have to stay with her seed all the time? Is she possibly the loneliest "character" ever shown in the franchise?

petition to fomalize the fan name of curry koochie

Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on October 30, 2023, 01:01:06 AM
I have to say, episode 6 felt cheap (as in EXNOA ran out of money)...and it doesn't feel like the end of a series. I get that this OVA is just to bridge the GXP novels with the Paradise War novels. But to me, there should have been more. I suppose if I had read the novels, I'd have an explanation of sorts on how things got established. But in terms of its own story, the GXP OVA felt hollow and pointless.

I'll write more in the blog, and maybe when I finally get moved into my new home, I can do a video reviewing the whole series. But here are issues I had.

1) The whole Tsukiko x Seina stuff was completely pointless.
2) As much as I liked seeing Masaki, she was pointless and turned into rubbish in episode 5.
3) Jovia is pointless.
4) The cabbits seem interesting, but not enough time is spent with them to flesh them out more.
5) There should have been some sort of cameo from Seina's other wives. I'm not saying they should have visited, but the technology exists for a "space phone call", so why not have it?
6) Speaking of contacts, outside of Kai, Seina has ZERO contact with his family. Why? Clearly, the cabbits (and I guess Jovia and Tsukiko) keep Seina's unlucky elements suppressed a lot. But even if direct contact was too much (and I don't buy that if Kai can contact Seina), then a phone call? Seriously!
7) The magic system is something I'm not buying into. As I understand it, space technology (Jurai, GXP, whatever) can do pretty much everything the magic can do.
8) And as usual, the series relies on viewers previously reading the GXP novels and the Paradise War novels. There were some improvements on this front, but not enough.

I need to hit the sack, but while I certainly didn't hate the series, I felt it was just underwhelming. And that last episode really felt like EXNOA ran out of money.

I really wanted to see Seina's OG wives from the GXP anime back again. Hell, we got more of Kiriko, Amane, and Ryoko Balta in OVA 5 than in this new OVA that literally has "GXP" in the title. I know it's supposed to focus on setting up Paradise Wars but I wanted to see the original cast interact again because I actually like those characters a bit (especially Amane). Oh, and Seina's family too. He never even talked to his sister Yoshiko I believe, even though she got married to Kai. And I haven't watched the last two episodes yet but I've heard that Seina and Tsukiko's relationship doesn't go anyway by the final episode which is a big letdown. I mean the first episode was just teasing us about those two, we don't deserve to get blue-balled like this.

I feel like the fundamental problem with Kajishima's style of storytelling is that he loves to expand the world and characters (which is cool and all) but he's always trying to set up the next big thing in the plot, instead of taking the time to "breathe" every once and a while. Obviously plot progression is important but it should be balanced against having characters just being in their element, you know, just doing whatever they want and having fun with their lives. And I know Kajishima can do that sort of thing because OVA 2 (and to a lesser extent OVA 3) was exactly like that and was great. But here in GXP Paradise Starting, I feel like there's not much enjoyment to derive from it directly, especially not without having read the prerequisite light novels (of which I really should get to reading but I don't have time to). It's still better than OVA 5 in this aspect, though.

I do like Jovia though, she's by far the funniest character in this new OVA. The first half of episode 3 where she's just messing around and doing what she wanted was great, but there should be more stuff like that throughout.

And I've also heard about the really bad visuals in episode 6. I'll be looking forward to that too.

Does anyone know if there is going to be an OST or at least an OP/ED single for 「想ひ、ひとひら」 & 「Paradice LOVE」?

Quote from: bsfema on November 03, 2023, 11:26:45 AM
Does anyone know if there is going to be an OST or at least an OP/ED single for 「想ひ、ひとひら」 & 「Paradice LOVE」?

I'll look in to it.

Got home from work and found a box containing the GXP Shido Hen book (237 pages), yet another audio CD (about 23 minutes), and the Washu Tapestry.  I'll get everything scanned, ripped, and photographed this weekend and get started on the translation.

Sometime in early December I'll be putting Season 4, 5 and all of the Shido Hen stuff up for sale. If anyone wants it, you better speak up quickly!

BoB

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on November 08, 2023, 03:00:35 AM
Got home from work and found a box containing the GXP Shido Hen book (237 pages), yet another audio CD (about 23 minutes), and the Washu Tapestry.  I'll get everything scanned, ripped, and photographed this weekend and get started on the translation.

Sometime in early December I'll be putting Season 4, 5 and all of the Shido Hen stuff up for sale. If anyone wants it, you better speak up quickly!

BoB

is the tapestry for sale?

Quote from: Dr.Soviet on November 10, 2023, 01:40:54 PM
is the tapestry for sale?

I'm going to try to sell Season 4, 5 and Shido Hen as a set. If I can't get a decent price for the lot, I'll piece them out. If that happens I'll start here!

BoB

Alrighty folks,
I've completed photographing all 240 pages of the Shidohen novel, OCR'd 'em on Google and have begun the translation.

One question!
What the consensus? Jovia or Jobia?

Kinda partial to Jovia myself, but it really makes no difference.

BoB

Jovia Jovis

I've always seen it akin to "jovial"

Got a quick complaint about the Shido Hen novel.
There are 11 instances in the book where Jovia's name is spelled out in Katakana as Jopia!

I really wish this guy could afford either an editor or a spell checker!

BoB

classic kaj. cant even keep his own characters names spelled right

There is no 'v' sound in written Japanese. When they need a 'v' sound, they write it using ba, bi, bo, bu, or be. So even if its written ジョヴィア　ジョヴィス, (Jobia Jobis) it may actually be spoken Jovia Jovis. I would give it a listen to make sure. But you wouldn't be wrong either way, unless its a loan word that does have a 'v' sound. Like Viagra.

I just uploaded the PDF of the Shido Hen novel to Eff.

I need to go through it again, but that won't be for a few weeks. Kinda tired of looking at it right now!

If you see issues, let me know what it is and what page it's on and I'll look at it.

Enjoy,
BoB Schlotkin

Have some sales estimates.

Episode 1 - 3,009 copies
Episode 2 - 2,058 copies
Episode 3 - 3,283 copies
Episode 4 - 3,284 copies
Episode 5 - 3,326 copies
Episode 6 - 2,114 copies

https://erzat.blog/japan-anime-blu-ray-sales-ranking-2023/ (https://erzat.blog/japan-anime-blu-ray-sales-ranking-2023/)

Are these decent sales numbers? I don't really know much about the market but curious if these would be considered success or failure levels.

Note that these are release week sales numbers.

Vol.1 Special Edition 5th for the week... SAO movie SE 1st with 20,407
Vol.2  SE 7th for the week... Oshi no Ko Vol. 1 7,146
Vol. 3 SE 6th... newest Demon Slayer season Vol. 2 SE 9,291
Vol. 4 SE 3rd... Inital D Complete Series LE 5,587
Vol. 5 SE 7th... Demon Slayer Vol. 4 LE 7,711
Vol. 6 SE 10th... Gridman Universe movie SE 19,791

Better than not charting, but not as important as nerds think it is.

Quote from: BobSchlotkin on December 17, 2023, 04:24:18 AM
I just uploaded the PDF of the Shido Hen novel to Eff.

I need to go through it again, but that won't be for a few weeks. Kinda tired of looking at it right now!

If you see issues, let me know what it is and what page it's on and I'll look at it.

Enjoy,
BoB Schlotkin

Finally looked at it very briefly... well, looking FOR things.

Nope, the novel also neglects to give "Jovia's mother from her previous life" a freaking name... or a name for Jovia in her previous life, for that matter (unless it's done elsewhere). Annoying.

Oddly deletes the confusing mention of Jovia having a daughter on Barrium too.

... Who is "Kensei-san" and his daughter? They consider sending the extra test deserts to him... wait... the Renza assassin and his daughter? what a bizarre ref to drop with no context.

great work over all but i noticed some of the typical translation errors it needs a second pass. the teo i noticed so far was kai as the ocean and women as daughters havent had a chance to listen all the way though

Quote from: Eff Efferson on December 25, 2023, 12:07:22 AM
great work over all but i noticed some of the typical translation errors it needs a second pass. the teo i noticed so far was kai as the ocean and women as daughters havent had a chance to listen all the way though

That it does!
I'll give it a couple of weeks, then take another read through and fix the issues.

BoB

Quote from: sacunnin on December 19, 2023, 06:54:38 PM
Are these decent sales numbers? I don't really know much about the market but curious if these would be considered success or failure levels.

For an OVA that is charging per episode these are pretty decent numbers
Also I'm sure the powers that be are aware this is a niche show.

Yeah, those numbers aren't bad. A few thousand copies on release week, at the prices we know are solid.

Also, I'm seeing OAV 5 fullset for sale on ebay at ~$100.

the shidohen novel clarified quite alot about the mysterious flashback and kalashubydoobydoo but other wise was largely the same. It struck me that well the line about acha's mom is still odd. her mom is dead. so I think they meant erma

Her mom's not dead. Acha and the boy Wau were gathering medicine for her and Seina helped them. She survived. I think I remember her harshly berating the boy. She was completely on board with handing her single-digit aged daughter to a guy they just met: Shrine maiden's duty and she was of age according to their f'd up tribe. If Seina refused, mommy and everyone was ready to shun her for her failure.

Does anyone else find it odd that there wasn't an OP/ED single or an OST for this?  OAV 4 had a bunch of OP/ED singles and OAV 5 had an OST (part of the 5th release).  Did something happen where 「想ひ、ひとひら」 & 「Paradice LOVE」 didn't or couldn't be released on CD?  As best as I can tell, the singer (Mitsuki Nakae (中恵光城)) performed the songs during her concerts, so does anyone know why is there no CD for this?