Useless Tenchi

Anime => Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki => Topic started by: antvasima on August 01, 2014, 01:25:42 PM

Title: [AiTM] The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU
Post by: antvasima on August 01, 2014, 01:25:42 PM
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-01/yozakura-quartet-yasuda-designs-characters-for-new-tenchi-muyo-series/.77201

They should have called it something other than Tenchi Muyo. This seems to have nothing to do with the original, and Masaki Kajishima is not involved at all. :(
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 01, 2014, 03:52:05 PM
EDIT: Ok I'll watch it and be happy about it.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: SimmyC on August 01, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
Yeah. This is a big WTFness right here. Though since hearing that they're basically 5 minute ads for the area, I never expected say, an OVA continuation. But besides Kajishima not being directly involved (not even the art), and we have two new characters besides Tenchi, I'm in agreement. Why even make it Tenchi?

I don't mind new characters in, even a non-canon spinoff. But we're talking 5 minute episodes here. Not a lot of time for character development.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 01, 2014, 04:58:33 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b2LPeQ7_Lt0/T_KXebTBBxI/AAAAAAAABv0/QPePG0aYsB4/s1600/The+Joker+-+And+Here+We+Go.gif#joker%20gif%20and%20here%20we%20go%20500x257)


Definitely not Tenchi art, looks like a lot of the stuff you see nowadays. Though I expected some extreme changes.


Tried telling folks don't think you were gonna be getting some Kajishima like Tenchi....

Though the community working on this still got kudos since they actually had the balls to do something about it and make their own fanfiction legit.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: shades of blue on August 01, 2014, 05:41:48 PM
What a tragedy.... But I guess I should not be surprised, coming from a company that was bought out by pachinko owners [yakuza]. The real losers here are the townsmen of Takahashi, as they're not going to see an increase in tourism from a five minute series that has nothing more to do with Tenchi than it's opening title. AIC took their money and pulled a real fast one.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: WarOmnimon on August 01, 2014, 05:48:37 PM
(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b478/WarOmnimon/khaaan_zps07914e51.gif)
And this is another reason why I was hesitant as to giving the new series a chance without hearing all the details (Aside from the episodes being five minutes in length).  I was afraid something stupid like this was going to happen, but I didn't know it would turn out to be THIS stupid.  Come on now - Sailor Moon, Gundam, and even Digimon have, have had, or will have proper anniversary seasons, regardless of quality or content.  (Gundam had two anniversary seasons technically - an OVA and a TV series.  But that - along with preaching about the quality of said seasons from said series - would be going off topic.)

This isn't a proper 20th anniversary series for the Tenchi franchise - it's a piece of turd that must be killed with fire several times and then sent to the seventh layer of Hell, that's what it is.  I hope Kajishima gives us the announcement of a fourth OVA series or a continuation of Isekai at Comiket 86, because at this point either or would be about the only thing that can save the franchise now in my book.

In short... I'm not even going near this series with a nine and a half foot pole.  It's Tenchi in name only and, given the fact that this is an anniversary year for the franchise, that absolutely reeks of laziness or not caring about the fans, or worse (Both).  Every other company with a major anime that was celebrating an anniversary recently didn't make the mistake that was made here.

SAVE_US.KAJ.  Enough said.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 01, 2014, 06:36:59 PM
I give up.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Gazzycakes on August 01, 2014, 07:07:15 PM
Literally what...the..fuck.. :sotw:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 01, 2014, 10:24:20 PM
I think the best thing to do here is take it for what it is and forget it's Tenchi for a second it might actually be enjoyable, We shall see though.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
The Yakuza are behind this? That explains a lot... "Good luck" with all the planned merchandising and tourism for that horribly generic turd. 

I have waited 10 years for a continuation of my favourite series and get THIS?! Tenchi Universe, Tenchi In Tokyo, Nabeshin in GXP, and now the final blow.

Why do almost everybody involved have to do their utmost to destroy something that was originally absolutely wonderful?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on August 02, 2014, 01:00:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/Mq4C9uq.gif)

Time to burn all my Tenchi stuff in effigy.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Zigra on August 02, 2014, 04:42:37 AM
This weekend, I think I will be watching Tenchi Universe and Tenchi In Tokyo. They both have to be better than this crap.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Gaston on August 02, 2014, 06:15:04 AM
That look like they have a project that had nothing to do with Tenchi Muyo and they decide to make it part of the Tenchi Muyo franchise just so people would watch this.

I would still watch that but I am disappointed I wouldn't see Aeka, Sasami, Washu and Mihoshi again.  :neg:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: WarOmnimon on August 02, 2014, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: Gaston on August 02, 2014, 06:15:04 AM
That look like they have a project that had nothing to do with Tenchi Muyo and they decide to make it part of the Tenchi Muyo franchise just so people would watch this.
+1 to you good sir.  That theory might actually be closer to the truth than we realize right now.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: shades of blue on August 02, 2014, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
The Yakuza are behind this?

Yes and no? A couple years back AIC was bought by a pachinko company and after being used as an excuse to write-off all their financial losses, was "sold" back at about 10% of what they originally paid for it. While owned by the "pachinko company" they produced such trash like season two of Oreimo.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tensami on August 02, 2014, 12:36:13 PM
(http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2014/05/larry-david.gif)



I'll postpone shitting on it in case the girls are revealed later, I mean, there's no way they're making a Tenchi series without the girls... right?












:shepicide:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: takahata on August 02, 2014, 01:44:05 PM
After the announcement of the reboot of the Sailor Moon series,  a work of fanart was mistaken to be the characters of the new series.  The work of fanart had focus msotly on what happen to the Original Salior Moon characters.   The fanart series had includes the daughters of the first series. The series was wll done.  It is a lot like Sailor Moon: The Next Generation.

I feel that the new Tenchi Muyo series should be treated as a part of the Tenchi Muyo franchise.  I do want a fourth OVA and a spinoff which will  focus on the next generation of Tenchi Muyo.


:shygirl: :Hap: :vrage: :payup:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 02, 2014, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Tensami on August 02, 2014, 12:36:13 PMI'll postpone shitting on it in case the girls are revealed later, I mean, there's no way they're making a Tenchi series without the girls... right?

:shepicide:

Masaki Kajishima created a Hentai Drama once called Masquerade (Masq).  Several years down the line, but not too long after, they made Masq2 without him, and they changed the character designs radically but they were still recognizable.  Think of something like how different TMiL2 looks from TMOAV.  The masq sequel, like TU/TinT, gave him the obligatory creator credit without the character designer credit.  I think the OAV alone gives him character design credit since they use his.  That and the sequel story kinda drops most of the threads left at the end of OAV1.

This is pure speculation, but I think he let all those AUs and stuff go on because it likely gave him exposure and a healthy payment but he withheld his own designs as a way to visually say to his fans who know his style "I had nothing to do with this series."  He also allows the similiar designs out of good faith to his company.  Don't bite the hand that feeds you and all that.

So he goes into AIC over this latest anime with art hinted at in his doujin and wants to deal in good faith, and they brush him off for this idea instead.  He feels handled shittily, so instead of going with the flow as during the 90s, he goes nuclear and tells them they can't use his character designs, they're gonna have to start from scratch.  Depending how much he owns, he allows the Tenchi Masaki name to be used but that's it.

That is the only explanation I can think of.  Perhaps the doujin from Comiket will give us more insight.

Tenchi Muyo has been really one of the most mishandled properties I know of.  AIC pushed so hard to never have the situation change, they killed it with stagnation.  I can't help but wonder what hand MK had in this by pushing GXP or WoG -- which are side properties that most people had no burning need to see.  Was he obligated?  Was it his idea?  Idk.  MK is rather unfocused at times, it would be nice for someone to narrow that into a laser.

But this year the doujin -If- started things off the right foot.  Finally, something the fans wanted to see for years goes forward.  And then we get this.  Years upon years of having the Tenchi label slapped on unrelated things (granted, ISK as TM:WoG is only in America), I fear this will finally kill the remaining fanbase, it being what it is left.  At least in America, I have no clue what the situation is in Japan.

Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on August 02, 2014, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 12:30:03 AM
The Yakuza are behind this?

Yes and no? A couple years back AIC was bought by a pachinko company and after being used as an excuse to write-off all their financial losses, was "sold" back at about 10% of what they originally paid for it. While owned by the "pachinko company" they produced such trash like season two of Oreimo.

So AIC is not currently owned by the Yakuza?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 02, 2014, 02:43:03 PM
"Many of Tenchi fan in JP are also displeased with casts this time and shouting "We NO need Tenchi, we need Sasami (or Ryoko)!""

Looks like our friends overseas don't like it ether.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 02:45:38 PM
Would anybody like to help out with responding?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=4318882

Mod note: Text partially removed.  Links are fine.  But let's not name names.  We don't want to initiate flame wars between certain parties.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 02, 2014, 02:48:20 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on August 02, 2014, 02:43:03 PM
"Many of Tenchi fan in JP are also displeased with casts this time and shouting "We NO need Tenchi, we need Sasami (or Ryoko)!""

Looks like our friends overseas don't like it ether.

Well I need Tenchi too :)  I'm not getting him either this time around, just someone with the same name and a bishi character design :/
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Harls on August 02, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: antvasima on August 02, 2014, 02:10:21 PM
So AIC is not currently owned by the Yakuza?
Nope, they sold it at a profit (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-10/mobile-software-company-aplix-buys-anime-studio-aic) and the next company sold it back to President Miura (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-20/aplix-sells-anime-studio-aic-to-aic-rep-director-for-8000-yen/us%2477) at a yen a share.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 02, 2014, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on August 02, 2014, 02:43:03 PM
"We NO need Tenchi,


We don't need Tenchi?


(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/leabrady/39780856/15773/15773_original.gif)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: WarOmnimon on August 03, 2014, 12:45:41 AM
So the good folks that are the Japanese Tenchi fanbase don't like this either?  Then yeah, it seems that all the hard work that Kajishima has been doing for the past year or so (Such as the -If- doujin that Jibs mentioned) has been pretty much for nothing.  We know for an absolute fact now that the powers that be are slapping the creator of this series in the face as well as the fans.  I am hoping that Kajishima realizes this soon and decides to stand up to AIC (Who obviously have lost their greatness in recent years - more than likely due to the reasons mentioned), and then switch companies.  It's pretty much the only proper choice he has now if he hopes to finish the series.

If that doesn't happen, well... worldwide Tenchi fanbase train wreck in 3, 2, 1...
(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b478/WarOmnimon/trainwreck_zpscdb2d160.png)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on August 03, 2014, 02:20:04 AM
So they finally released the artwork and information about the new series?

Well let's start my opinion off with:

1.The new art design. Kinda understand that they want to attract some new folks to the brand but it kinda contradicts itself seeing how its only 5 min long each episode and the whole thing is made to promote a city in Japan. Feels tacky, I originally envision a mix between the OVAs and those anime with the unfinished backgrounds but I guess its not bad...I mean I like Durarara's artwork and they even made Tenchi more of a bishi than he was before imo.

2.These new girls. This pissed me off more than anything. I think they want to gauge more fan reaction by leaving out the iconic Tenchi girls like Ryoko and Ayeka but I really don't like that idea. If anything they should've at least had 1 or 2 of the older Tenchi girls appear in the promotion art. This is leading to speculation that the original girls won't be appearing in the series and that they've been replaced with these new girls that look like generic romcom anime #1392. They're making me not care about these new girls by not showing some of the other girls first.

3.Not an OVA continuation. This hurts as well. I want those loose ends to be wrapped up from OVA 3 but at the same time I'm glad since this means that if this series does well we might have a chance at a full 1 or 2 cour 22-minute episode OVA 4 with Tenchi's children finally animated. Do you really want 5 minutes each week to explain everything that happens after OVA 3? I just don't see that being possible.

4.Another AU confusion. At this point it's gonna confuse new fans who are interested in this franchise more since its another AU of Tenchi and this time it uses Muyo in the title. Bad enough there are people asking me which is the preferred order of watching Tenchi and I have to keep on telling them that Universe,Tokyo and Pretty Sammy are separate from the OVAs. Now its another case of "Well it has Muyo in the title, Isn't this a continuation of TM!Ryo-Ohki?"

Overall, quite a surprise and I can understand the anger you all feel but at the same time this is just the beginning. I want to reserve full judgement until I either see more artwork/synopsis or when I watch it. I usually don't like to be extremely blunt in opinions unless I see the whole picture.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 05, 2014, 02:03:31 AM
Uh.....

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/y3QOvy7xxMwKI/giphy.gif)


How exactly are we suppose to be watching this again?

I doubt crunchy roll will do it, I doubt fansub groups will do it, and at best we'll get some japanese raw rips from torrents. Maybe.

Seriously doe, how are we watching this again?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 05, 2014, 02:20:21 AM
I'm sure that the raws will be released. Alternatively we will get a rip of the bluray collection in a year. I only buy media that I genuinely like though, and will only check this out in hope that the old cast will show up.

This site might host the torrents: http://torrenters.com
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 05, 2014, 02:24:02 AM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on August 05, 2014, 02:03:31 AM
Uh.....

(http://media0.giphy.com/media/y3QOvy7xxMwKI/giphy.gif)


How exactly are we suppose to be watching this again?

I doubt crunchy roll will do it, I doubt fansub groups will do it, and at best we'll get some japanese raw rips from torrents. Maybe.

Seriously doe, how are we watching this again?

Just turn on the TV

(http://i.imgur.com/o6C6LiY.jpg)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 05, 2014, 03:08:51 AM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on August 05, 2014, 02:24:02 AM


Just turn on the TV


I did that. TMZ was on  :neg: :neg: :neg:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: takahata on August 05, 2014, 03:20:42 PM
I am planning to treat the new series as a parallel version of Tenchi Muyo.  Tenchi UNiverse serves as an excellant example on how an alternate version of Tenchi Muyo can work.  The new series seems to start out with two of the female characters who are going to bee a part of Tenchi's harem. 
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 06, 2014, 08:22:29 AM
Well, if the series does feature all the regular cast, and the two new characters are just introduction windows for new viewers, then I suppose it could end up as good as Tenchi Universe, which is better than nothing.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 07, 2014, 12:48:47 AM
Lol, fans after 2 episodes seeing the usuals aren't on....


https://www.youtube.com/v/y8qs5hPmSBs
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: ibawow on August 08, 2014, 11:13:23 AM

http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/character/kinojyou_beni.html

... really ?
are you serious ....  ?

i got a bit disappointed ...  :rad:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 13, 2014, 06:40:02 PM
I'm starting to think happened is that AIC had some other project in the works anyway, Okayama was willing to partially fund the animation and also promote a Tenchi anime, and so AIC took the money and just added a rat tail to the protagonist.  Call it Tenchi and pocket the money.  All in a day's work.  :/
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 14, 2014, 12:06:10 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 13, 2014, 06:40:02 PM
I'm starting to think happened is that AIC had some other project in the works anyway, Okayama was willing to partially fund the animation and also promote a Tenchi anime, and so AIC took the money and just added a rat tail to the protagonist.  Call it Tenchi and pocket the money.  All in a day's work.  :/

Kaji right now

(http://i.minus.com/iNHPh4LwnphvM.gif)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: ibawow on August 16, 2014, 01:30:03 AM
it's official now ....

" ORIGINAL CREATOR " : Masaki Kajishima

nothing else
this is hopeless

by the way ....
Kanjishima have .. his own light novel ..  and new dojin every year
He actually not need to work at AIC anymore .. I think ..
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 16, 2014, 02:01:26 AM
Well, personally I want to see Kajishima's GXP and Tenchi Muyo novels animated, as well as a 4th OVA series. Doujins and novels that I cannot read aren't nearly the same thing.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on August 22, 2014, 12:16:06 PM
Okay now I'm starting to worry about this.....
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/08/22/additional-character-designs-for-new-tenchi-muyo-anime-previewed
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 22, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on August 22, 2014, 12:16:06 PM
Okay now I'm starting to worry about this.....
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/08/22/additional-character-designs-for-new-tenchi-muyo-anime-previewed

(http://s17.postimg.org/wxgeinzsv/Bvo4_KJTCYAAWS_h.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Hey AIC:
(http://s23.postimg.org/3vmik59tn/ai_tenchi_muyo_fanart.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 22, 2014, 02:25:59 PM
The main page though at least adds Washu:
http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/#intro_box

"天地、女子高教師になる!? またもや鷲羽の起こした問題から、世界が大ピンチ! 世界の危機を救うため天地が順愛学園という女子高へ教育実習生としてもぐりこむことに。 天性の巻き込まれ体質の天地には赴任した早々、数々の問題が降りかかる。 そして、それはまさに、天地の苦難に満ちた教師生活の始まりとなる...."

Something about "Washu" causing a big problem and Tenchi becoming a student teacher because of it?  It just says Washu and not Washu Hakubi, so she may be intended to stay in the background (if she's even a person in this at all.)

So that's the bone old time fans get this time around.  A single name drop.  If Washu appears at all, it is probably going to look as different as she did in that new Sasami Shoujo Club anime 7 years back or worse if "Tenchi Masaki" is any indication.

The scenario spells it out, old characters aren't gonna play much of a roll.  9 character cast so far.  This is a show in 5 minute increments.  It sounds like it will (must) have a lot of action, not a ton of high profile characters to track.  I suspect if the classic girls show up, it will be in "copyright" cameos (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110712032407/tenchi/images/c/c8/Cameo_Kiyone%2BMisao%2BRamia.png).
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 22, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
As I have said earlier: Why do they even call this "Tenchi Muyo" instead of, say, "Random Generic High School Comedy Anime With Bland Designs"?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 22, 2014, 04:24:40 PM
Quote from: antvasima on August 22, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
As I have said earlier: Why do they even call this "Tenchi Muyo" instead of, say, "Random Generic High School Comedy Anime With Bland Designs"?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 22, 2014, 04:30:38 PM
Quote from: antvasima on August 22, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
As I have said earlier: Why do they even call this "Tenchi Muyo" instead of, say, "Random Generic High School Comedy Anime With Bland Designs"?

Uh, the 16 Million Yen that AIC screwed Okayama out of to make a Tenchi series?  I bet they had this series on a backburner, suddenly Okayama shows up, and then they are like, "Sure, we'll do Tenchi show to promote MK's birthplace for that money," and proceeded to add a rat tail to the protagonist and drop in a Tenchi name in the background information.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: shades of blue on August 22, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
I'm still waiting to find out if even Masami Kikuchi gets screwed out of a gig.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 22, 2014, 05:26:29 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on August 22, 2014, 04:39:15 PM
I'm still waiting to find out if even Masami Kikuchi gets screwed out of a gig.

I vote for Gilbert Gottfried.  Yes, as Japanese VA.  Make it par for the course for this anime.

http://www.youtube.com/v/5K1RcKJVbHA
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 22, 2014, 05:39:08 PM
ANN forum for this new news:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2879099
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 22, 2014, 11:33:58 PM
Damn, folks mad as hell on there.

Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on August 23, 2014, 01:02:33 AM
Is this going to be the Apollo 1 of the Tenchi franchise? This shit looks like it's going to burn before it even hits the airwaves.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 23, 2014, 01:28:56 AM
QuoteUh, the 16 Million Yen that AIC screwed Okayama out of to make a Tenchi series?  I bet they had this series on a backburner, suddenly Okayama shows up, and then they are like, "Sure, we'll do Tenchi show to promote MK's birthplace for that money," and proceeded to add a rat tail to the protagonist and drop in a Tenchi name in the background information.
Maybe you should post this information to the ANN forum thread?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on August 23, 2014, 01:40:24 AM
Well I'm glad I don't have an ANN account to post there. I usually stay clear of ANN's comments section....but yeah some are STILL defending these changes....I'm starting to question AIC now...A Washu name drop isn't enough to sway me now and with the plot summary already translated....yeah It's not looking good now imo.
also:
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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 23, 2014, 01:43:44 AM
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on August 23, 2014, 01:40:24 AM
A Washu name drop isn't enough to sway me now
Ain't the first time...

*cough*

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(http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.com/images/SasamiMahouShoujoClub/Washuu_Koduka.png)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: WarOmnimon on August 23, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
*Looks at new character designs*

...yep.  It seems that unless Kajishima jumps ship and gets his own thing going (Whether it be OVA 4, Seikishi continuation, heck, I'd take ANYTHING that ends up canon at this point over this junk), this so-called anniversary season will do the opposite of what the anniversary seasons for other series have done and the Tenchi franchise will be KO'd real fast.  Such a shame that AIC is responsible for this - they need to be hit with a Level 3 X-Factor Doctor Doom combo at this point.  Ending of course with the blender.  :doom:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 23, 2014, 09:17:49 AM
Quote from: antvasima on August 23, 2014, 01:28:56 AM
QuoteUh, the 16 Million Yen that AIC screwed Okayama out of to make a Tenchi series?  I bet they had this series on a backburner, suddenly Okayama shows up, and then they are like, "Sure, we'll do Tenchi show to promote MK's birthplace for that money," and proceeded to add a rat tail to the protagonist and drop in a Tenchi name in the background information.
Maybe you should post this information to the ANN forum thread?

I did kinda, but it's just speculation on my part.  It's not like 16 million yen is huge ($150,000), but if I were running a business with uncertain (perhaps thin) margins and that infusion of cash meant I had to change the title of something and add a few irrelevant details, would I still go for that cash?  Yes.  It pays for a few employees that year for next to no effort.

But for all I know, Masaki Kajishima went into a competition for a low cost anime with his -If- idea and Okayama chose this other Momotaro idea which also has a connection to their area.  Or they just screwed Okayama.  No way to know and we'll probably never know.

Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on August 23, 2014, 01:40:24 AMWell I'm glad I don't have an ANN account to post there. I usually stay clear of ANN's comments section....but yeah some are STILL defending these changes....I'm starting to question AIC now...A Washu name drop isn't enough to sway me now and with the plot summary already translated....yeah It's not looking good now imo.
also:
(http://i.imgur.com/TRIxXCh.png)

I'll just note the website put forth "Washu" and not "Washu Hakubi".  Maybe it's the same Washu, or maybe she'll come out worse looking than that Mahou Shoujo Club design or just completely different or is a robot for all I know.  And what will be her role?  Even if she's the similiar to classic Washu, is she there as much as she was in War on Geminar (which is to say just barely?)  I'd say that's likely.

The only classic character I can see popping up on this show now might be Ryoko, because of the Momotaro legend ANN mentioned, they go fight a Demon and she could be that demon that gets converted.  But with Beni in the mix, I think that's a long shot, something like Ryoko's Oryo character in Pretty Sammy maybe?  I would say Sasami appears too from her sheer popularity, but I think Aoi Rui on that show is some type of weird nod to her given the hair/eye color and the Pretty Sammy style leggings+shoes so probably not.

http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/character/aoi_rui.html
vs
http://s11.postimg.org/ol9fry4ab/presamicute.jpg

To me, Fuka Yuki seems to be the Washu nod:
http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/character/fuka_yuki.html

Honestly, I could imagine the whole Washu thing is an internet only mentioned namedrop meant to placate some old time Japanese fans and have them tune in out of hope and then the anime hooks them on its own merits.  Wouldn't surprise me.  This is a 5 minute anime, they have 9 cast members so far.  How more room do they have after adding throw-aways and enemies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momotar%C5%8D
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Gaston on August 23, 2014, 08:39:19 PM
I would paid to know what Okayama thinks of that.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 24, 2014, 03:09:13 AM
Quote from: Gaston on August 23, 2014, 08:39:19 PM
I would paid to know what Okayama thinks of that.

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: takahata on August 24, 2014, 01:10:58 PM
The new series looks more like a sequel to Durarara.  I have watch the anime version of Durarara, and currently reading the manga.

Today, I was checking the Tenchitorum site.  In the News Section, there is a report on the bios for the new characters.  According to the report, Tenchi is going to be a teacher at all places, an all girls high school.  The news report that Washu has cause one of the world's largest predicaments.  In order to save the world,  Tenchi must discreetly disguise himself as a student teacher at an all girl's high school.   Naturally, Tenchi getting this new this job will cause him a lot of problems.

I tihink that some of you have already found out about the information about the new series from other sources. I can't believe Tenchi disguising himself as a student teacher at all places, AN ALL GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL. 

The series seems to be taking place after Tenchi had graduated from college.  The way which Japan teaches its teachers is different from the Untied States.  From what I read from the Manga series GTO: Great Teacher Onizuka, anyone wants to become a teacher enters an apprentice-like system where they must become a student teacher.

In Japan, the basic qualifications are to be a college graduate.  All student teachers must  have on job training. All student teachers must take an exam in order to become a teacher.  Al least according to GTO in the public schools system. I can assumed that all student teachers need to pass an exam in order to become a teacher.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 24, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
I dub this show Tenchi Muyo Muyo.  No need for Tenchi Muyo.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 24, 2014, 11:11:49 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 24, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
I dub this show Tenchi Muyo Muyo.  No need for Tenchi Muyo.
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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: takahata on August 25, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 24, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
I dub this show Tenchi Muyo Muyo.  No need for Tenchi Muyo.

I am starting to think that the new series is likely a sequel to Tenchi: Universe. 
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 26, 2014, 12:36:45 PM
Quote from: takahata on August 25, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 24, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
I dub this show Tenchi Muyo Muyo.  No need for Tenchi Muyo.

I am starting to think that the new series is likely a sequel to Tenchi: Universe.

Not out of question.

Negishi (director) is now tweeting about the series.  Ai-Tenchi twitter is following him so it's legitimate. 

https://twitter.com/tsukumotakumi/status/503135190558851072
https://twitter.com/tsukumotakumi/status/502790573321768960

Ibawow or someone, can you guys translate?  One seems to be about Washu.  And another would be about Ayeka.

You know what's really going to suck?  If this is going to be a Tenchi Universe sequel, and the story goes all the girls left him because he wanted a normal life, and now he's alone and Washu (comes back for a cameo) to plunge him into some stupid shit and Ayeka has a cameo too, maybe on a view screen, maybe married off to some prince.  All because these schmucks don't want to pay for the old (japanese) VAs the whole series.  Total speculation because I read too many fanfics like this but it was almost the ending of TU TV right before Ryoko came back....

But we go from strong OAV Tenchi that would rather die than forsake any of the girls and ends up with a harem and a bunch of kids to TinT Tenchi deluxe bishi putz here acting the loser as if not enough irl guys were like that that we need to see it in anime--.--  OMG. 

Nothing displayed so far in this series gives me any confidence, especially Tenchi's propensity to "get into trouble" which tbh sounds more Seina-ish to me.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 26, 2014, 03:49:44 PM
Is that why the regular cast isn't featured? Because AIC didn't want to pay for the voice actors? I really hate how they consistently mistreat the Tenchi Muyo franchise.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 26, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
You guys are seriously putting too much energy into this. This is a 5 minute 50 episode series that is pretty much a glorified travel promo for the japanese city that was fund raised and started this.

Seriously, expecting Universe 2 or OVA 4 from this is pretty ridiculous. This is an indie style spin off to gain revenue for the city of Takahashi, not the return of the franchise people are looking for.

Be real, if AIC's greedy asses didn't see themselves making a buck and putting a hand in this, most wouldn't even give a fuck about this project. And the people who started the project know this, so they took a familiar but pretty niche series to work off on.

Enjoy it for what it is, but putting high expectations on something that at best was meant to be marketable fan service will just leave you disappointed. I mean you only get 5 mins an episode, you can't expect much with just such a limited number of time. You get some comedy, some ecchi, and a cameo appearance every now and then from our favorite cast members.

Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 26, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on August 26, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
You guys are seriously putting too much energy into this. This is a 5 minute 50 episode series that is pretty much a glorified travel promo for the japanese city that was fund raised and started this.

Seriously, expecting Universe 2 or OVA 4 from this is pretty ridiculous. This is an indie style spin off to gain revenue for the city of Takahashi, not the return of the franchise people are looking for.

Be real, if AIC's greedy asses didn't see themselves making a buck and putting a hand in this, most wouldn't even give a fuck about this project. And the people who started the project know this, so they took a familiar but pretty niche series to work off on.

Enjoy it for what it is, but putting high expectations on something that at best was meant to be marketable fan service will just leave you disappointed. I mean you only get 5 mins an episode, you can't expect much with just such a limited number of time. You get some comedy, some ecchi, and a cameo appearance every now and then from our favorite cast members.

All I wanted was the original cast really, I'll still watch it though.  :frogonk:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Meeeeeeelllllon on August 26, 2014, 08:56:42 PM
I'll give it a chance for what it is. If Washu or Ryoko show up, cool. If not, hey it's only five minutes. I'd like to see how it is going to promote tourism.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 29, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
Some old characters show up, finally.  Sasami, Washu, and Mihoshi too.  Was I wrong?  We'll have to see.  But now I can watch it.  Mihoshi and Washu look horrible though.  Sasami hasn't really grown up.

Ryoko's outfit on her character page looks horrible, but the front page picture does not.  Ayeka has a tatoo or power symbol on her leg :/  At least's she's mostly covered although the one leg has to stick out.

Is this a response from overwhelmingly negative fan reaction in Japan?  Is that why it pops-up unlike the last character introductions?

I just don't see how 250 minutes, effectively 10 TV episodes, is going to support this large of a cast in 5 minute slots.  I really don't.

http://www.ai-tenchi.jp

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Meeeeeeelllllon on August 29, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
But, how is this going to promote tourism?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 29, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
(http://s10.postimg.org/gt717szcp/Bw_M5_RGd_CYAA5_V1_W.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)

Character profiles (I don't have time to clean this up):
Ryoko:
Demon of legend that had been sealed in 杻木 shrine. Use the powerful energy hidden in jewels, to exert a variety of capabilities. Selfish in the short-tempered.

Washu:
Self-proclaimed "Genius scientist of the universe". Appearance is young, but in fact I'm still alive 20,000 years.  Curious to Tenchi.

Ayeka:
Princess of Jurai.  Going to earth to look for a fiance.  Elegance, gentle personality, but scary when offended.  Weak catastrophic housework.

Sasami:
Sister of Ayeka. Second princess of Jurai. Personality of bright innocence. Housework is good at as opposed to Ayeka.  I'm in charge of the housework of Seiki-ka.

Mihoshi:
Class I Detective of GXP. Genius of chance.  That it goes to direction nor flying regardless of the will of the person in many cases.

What I'm seeing here so far is that these could be the profiles of the Tenchi characters back in OAV/TU beginning.  So this doesn't appear a continuation so far given the info given.  In fact, unlike the other character profiles which say how the characters fit in, these seem to have been very generic profiles lifted from previous sources.  I mean, that explains how Sasami didn't grow up (but Tenchi is 8 years older).

Did they really just bow to fan pressure and slap these in?  It's no secret that the Japanese reaction to the new characters have been very negative.  I wonder if they got any episodes done yet?

Overall, happy :)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Zigra on August 29, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Meh, can't get too happy. Those designs are awful.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Gaston on August 29, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
I hope they wouldn't make Aeka a bitch, Washu insane and Mihoshi too stupid again.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
How on earth you gonna change Ryoko's signature dbz looking hair?


Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 11:53:40 AM
Quote from: Meeeeeeelllllon on August 29, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
But, how is this going to promote tourism?

Throw Sasami and Ryo Ohki on one of those real life water falls or somehing. Watch Japan eat that shit up.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 29, 2014, 01:16:05 PM
Well, I'm happy that the regular cast shows up, even though it isn't an OVA continuation. Negishi has done good work, such as Burn-Up W, and Tenchi Muyo In Love 1.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 29, 2014, 01:18:13 PM
I can't help but be drawn to notice the characters' hips, thighs, and bosoms, whenever I look at the character designer's concepts.
Absolute perversion! Dammmit.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tensami on August 29, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
Quote from: Negative Dave & The Pessimists
Negativity

(http://i.imgur.com/TdZy3iT.gif)

So relieved now that we know the girls are in it. I'm loving all the Pretty Sammy references.

Don't like that he fucked with Sasami's bangs (also should have kept her freckles) but whatever, she and Ayeka came out a lot better than the rest.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Harls on August 29, 2014, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: Gaston on August 29, 2014, 11:23:03 AM
I hope they wouldn't make Aeka a bitch, Washu insane and Mihoshi too stupid again.
^ This.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 03:12:25 PM
Definitely gonna be some hardcore shit going on. That's some seriously skimpy clothing just to be chillin in the house all day and stuff. Guess the at home slice of life part is out the picture.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: shades of blue on August 29, 2014, 03:56:16 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 29, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/v/zfu54x2WEoA

They look like a group of increasingly desperate space whores. Competing against those schoolgirls must be tough, for these desperate housecrashers.
BTW I like how Washu suddenly became 20,000 years old, in a series "based off Universe".
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: antvasima on August 29, 2014, 04:18:48 PM
I agree about that we should tone down the negativity now that the original crew will appear.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: shades of blue on August 29, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
I see Hatsune Miku, Hitagi Senjougahara, a bunnygirl, a hostess girl & a space pirate. What is this original cast you talk of?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Gaston on August 29, 2014, 04:46:07 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on August 29, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
I see Hatsune Miku, Hitagi Senjougahara, a bunnygirl, a hostess girl & a space pirate. What is this original cast you talk of?

Yeah those girls are more like alternative version of the original cast.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 29, 2014, 04:49:22 PM
(I guess I shouldn't be starting a new thread)

I'm surprised the old cast are there (it seems).  I was wrong about that.

There was a massive negative reaction to the new girls in Japan (on twitter). Do you guys think it was early enough in the production process for them to change/shake up the story to cater to fans?

But for an anime with 250 minutes (I'm guessing 225 minutes if 30 seconds combined for opener/credits), which comes out equivalent to 10 22.5 minute episodes = what exactly are they doing with such a huge cast?

We're talking about 13 girls now. And some of the new girls look like they were patterned after the old girls in a generic way (small lab coat girl and Beni).

One thing interesting is that none of the Tenchi girls have weapons. unlike the 8 new girls. And they have the same basic description that OAV or TU could have given them. Sasami is still a kid. So this doesn't seem to be a continuation of, say, TU.

What is AiTM trying to be, exactly?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 04:50:10 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on August 29, 2014, 04:37:15 PM
I see Hatsune Miku, Hitagi Senjougahara, a bunnygirl, a hostess girl & a space pirate. What is this original cast you talk of?

Really confused with the fascination of all them wearing heels myself....

Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Meeeeeeelllllon on August 29, 2014, 06:49:59 PM
I'll give it a chance. I like Washu's design.

I've taken tourism classes so I'd really like to dissect it and figure out how it will actually promote tourism to this area of Japan.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 29, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
Since it's a different artist I don't really mind the looks of them, I like the pretty sammy look they gave Sasami. Overall I'm happy that the original cast is in it I just hope they have a big enough role.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: WarOmnimon on August 29, 2014, 09:20:40 PM
(http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b478/WarOmnimon/aitenchi-successkid_zpsa9335d79.png)
I will admit that I like the alternate designs and everything (Sasami getting the Pretty Sammy look as her default in this series was a clever move), but yeah... as was bought up, this smells like damage control more than anything else.  Especially now that we have about 14 characters involved overall and only 250 minutes or so to work with - that is an equation that will more than likely be troublesome in some situations.

But enough negativity from me! :) I'm just glad they included the original cast and didn't leave them out completely.  If they didn't even bother putting them in this one (Considering that it is considered the anniversary season), it would be the only anniversary season that I have heard of or seen that failed all expectations before it even began.  But yeah, now I have more confidence in this series and will more than likely check it out now.

In short... our voices (As well as those of everyone else) have been heard, and we got what we wanted.  Glad AIC is using that logic on this occasion, unlike some other companies who won't use that logic at all.

It's party time, ladies and gentlemen... drinks are on me this time. :getin:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU without the original cast
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on August 29, 2014, 09:55:09 PM
Finally. Glad they got pressured in to release some images of the classic girls. I just love most of the designs for them especially Mihoshi's and Ayeka's (Kudos to the person who referenced Senjougahara.) My only problem is with Washu's with the way her new hair is and that red choker outfit. The lab coat is a nice touch. It's reminding me of Kurisu & Okabe a lot.

So is there like an unwritten rule with the girls that they can't wear pants? All of the ones shown so far don't even wear them. I sure am gonna miss TU Ryoko's red tights.

Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
How on earth you gonna change Ryoko's signature dbz looking hair?
I'm not too upset about that, though I am gonna miss Washu's signature Crab hair the most though....
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Mewshuji on August 29, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
I have to admit I was leery about the series at first but the fact the original cast is in really puts me at ease. It does make me speculate about how the series will be handled. Considering these series generally have a 30 second intro and outro as opposed to the usual minute and a half OPs and EDs, that's 4 actual minutes of new animation per episode.

With that in mind, I have a small theory about how this will go- the original cast, plus Tenchi, will have more comedy based episodes that actually advertise the area, while the new cast plus Tenchi will have more story based episodes (plus obligatory schoolgirl fanservice since especially as there's that one girl who does appear to be lesbian). I mean both will obviously be comedic, but, the main story is about this school and less about the rest of the Masaki household. Actually, I half think that the only one out of the new girls Tenchi will have to worry about crushing on him will be Kurihara-"senpai". Just my thoughts though.

... side note, on the new designs, I like them. I wouldn't say they're better (except Tenchi's, oddly, which I REALLY like), but they're pretty good. I don't mind the changes to Ryoko's hair or Washu's hair either, but I did like the reason for their original designs having them. I am a bit concerned about where all their pants went as well, though. It kinda fits for the others, but it just looks odd on Ayeka. Also oddly fond of Hachiko's design...
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 29, 2014, 11:29:23 PM
Quote from: Mewshuji on August 29, 2014, 10:10:45 PM

With that in mind, I have a small theory about how this will go- the original cast, plus Tenchi, will have more comedy based episodes that actually advertise the area, while the new cast plus Tenchi will have more story based episodes (plus obligatory schoolgirl fanservice since especially as there's that one girl who does appear to be lesbian). I mean both will obviously be comedic, but, the main story is about this school and less about the rest of the Masaki household. Actually, I half think that the only one out of the new girls Tenchi will have to worry about crushing on him will be Kurihara-"senpai". Just my thoughts though.


Damn, pretty solid theory, and I think that would be a great way to keep the returning fans happy and get the whole promotion stuff out the way. Though, with those outfits, its gotta be some kind of action....


I mean, its not like the girls would just be wearing that stuff just to be lounging aroung right? Right  :shepicide: :shepicide:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on August 30, 2014, 12:37:22 AM
I sure hope that they don't try to sexualise Sasami. She is only 10-11 years old.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 30, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
Quote from: antvasima on August 30, 2014, 12:37:22 AM
I sure hope that they don't try to sexualise Sasami. She is only 10-11 years old.

Stay away from Tenchi hentai...far far away.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Mewshuji on August 30, 2014, 12:50:15 AM
I have confidence they won't "sexualize the Sasami", so to speak. They didn't really sexualize her at all in any of the original series except when she was in her adult form... but I can see why you might be concerned about it given some of the modern anime culture in Japan.

Well, thanks Ryu! Though, if by action you mean field trip time to Bitchū Matsuyama Castle and Raikyuuji, then yeah sure, plenty of "action".  I'd actually get a kick out of that given I'm into Japanese history a ton but... I have a feeling that's not what you mean.  ;) Maybe I'm expecting too little though.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 30, 2014, 12:58:37 AM
(http://s30.postimg.org/cr774qu75/Bmh_Hl_Q_mk_KGr_Hq_MOKj0_Et63u_Y_BLf0_04_Me_12.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Post by: Harls on August 30, 2014, 01:12:09 AM
"You're a naughty boy, aren't you, Tenchi?"  :swink:
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Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 30, 2014, 01:18:08 AM
Jibri:
QuoteBut for an anime with 250 minutes (I'm guessing 225 minutes if 30 seconds combined for opener/credits), which comes out equivalent to 10 22.5 minute episodes = what exactly are they doing with such a huge cast?

Yause on ANN had this informative post:
Quote
It makes sense if we step back a year and consider this:
http://www.aplix-ip.com/​?​p=​4413

Let's see:

Production committee bypassed? Yes.

Advertising through anime? Sort of. The system is intended to attract print publishers, who would presumably commission a promotional short for their manga. However, the city of Takahashi (which is providing only partial funding) may be the best catch for now. Perhaps the iconic stature of Tenchi Muyo, along with the 20th anniversary tagline (pilgrimage time!), won them over.

Three animators dedicated to delivering all the animation for a single character (thus minimizing the number of corrections required to reconcile differences in character art)? Only AIC knows, but that could explain the large character cast. More characters means that they can further divide labor while maintaining a "three animators per character" rule.

I don't know what form the story will take, but I doubt it's as simple as taking ten cohesive 25 minute scripts and dividing them into five minute chunks. Perhaps it'll have more of a "comic strip" feel, with short, relatively contained scenarios told within an episode or two (but with an overarching conflict interwoven throughout).
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Post by: Mewshuji on August 30, 2014, 01:22:25 AM
@Jib/Harls: Is that... Sasami side boob. And I just saw that looking through the smilies. Clearly, I have been out of the loop for far too long if I cannot recognize these happening when they clearly did.

Though tbh, I never saw the whole "naughty boy" thing with Sasami as sexual, she was just being an annoying little sister teasing Tenchi. I may have read into it wrong though.

Oh and thank you for the crosspost. That sort of makes things make a bit more sense.
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Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 30, 2014, 01:44:25 AM
Quote from: Harls on August 30, 2014, 01:12:09 AM
"You're a naughty boy, aren't you, Tenchi?"  :swink:

Always knew Sasami's little ass was nasty

(http://i.snag.gy/lhbkw.jpg)
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on August 30, 2014, 02:07:48 AM
Boy I come home and I see this sent to me on Skype.

Here's what I'm thinking; we are about to witness an instance where having our cake and eating it might lead to Diabetes. We wanted the old girls; we got the old girls. But we also have new girls to contend with in five minute chunks. I don't know about you but if you subtract the OP and ED from a series like Muromi-san (which is already half-episodes) you still don't have much even with those seven minutes of actual animation and antics. But the story of that series is disjointed and non-episodic, like Space Dandy was (or is, I haven't caught up yet. Sue me.) You might squeeze an acceptable plot out of a tourism-related series this short, but can it be good? We're going to find out in a few months when this finishes airing.

Also interesting to me is the lack of Kiyone AND Noike(!) unless someone already mentioned this. I just skimmed the responses.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 30, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Ryokos Stepdad on August 30, 2014, 02:07:48 AMAlso interesting to me is the lack of Kiyone AND Noike(!) unless someone already mentioned this. I just skimmed the responses.

They should add both.  I don't think this series has enough characters yet.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on August 31, 2014, 01:56:33 AM
Needs at least as many women as were in Isekai No Seikishi Monogatari.

In all seriousness,  :rwhy:

I hate this whole situation. This isn't Tenchi without MK to begin with. Then the character designs are awful and everyone looks like a whore. Such Disappointment.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 04:03:55 AM
 :staredog:

So far, I've noticed that both shades of blue and Y_Anthony_Who consider them to be whores—that is, they look like whores. Surely everyone has their own opinions, but I have to wonder what about them makes them look like whores, whilst I've never seen a whore nor do I know what whores actually look like. By anime appearance or design alone, how could one tell? I'm so curious. As we all know, TM! characters appear without clothing now and then before and these alternative designs have clothing, so clothing doesn't seem to be the issue. What is the difference between this derivative design and the original design such that make some think of "whores"? What defines "whore" here? Is there some unwritten standard? Please excuse my curiosity, but I find this quite a dilemma. . .
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Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on August 31, 2014, 04:07:48 AM
It is actually the clothes. The clothes are the issue. Whores have a certain way of dressing, and now you know what that looks like.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 04:28:19 AM
"A certain way of dressing"? Well, that's rather vague. I want to understand your and other's perspectives. High heels, skirts, one-piece suits, stockings, body art or something? Still, unclear. So, if they appear without their clothing or nude, you won't consider them to be whores? O_o I'm so confused. It would be awesome if you, or anyone with a similar view, could somehow point out actual qualities of the characters that you think make them to be "whores."
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on August 31, 2014, 04:44:54 AM
I'll start by saying this is the weirdest question I've ever been asked. To begin with, everyone gets naked. I am sometimes naked and I do not look like a whore. It's hard for me to believe your confusion is sincere when you say weird things like that. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in case you are from another country and there's some culture gap going on.

In the United States, popular culture gives a sort of framework for how the traditional hooker looks. The high heels, the tats, the stockings, all of it combined creates the look of a stereotypical hooker. Any of the elements alone, or utilized better, would not  necessarily make them look like hookers. As it stands now, however, they are dressed in the 'slutty' fashion of your stereotypical streetwalker. In America, women who dress like that are often mocked by others for appearing 'trashy' or like 'skanks'.

For Buddha's sake, 'Washu' looks like she's straight-up wearing lingerie!

I'm passing the baton if anyone else wants to help.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 05:04:18 AM
Your whole first paragraph is weird. It's odd. I was not asking you personally. Think of the thread topic at hand.
I'm talking about the derivative character designs here.
It's still unclear to me, but I think I understand your stereotypical perspective. I appreciate the reply though.
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Post by: antvasima on August 31, 2014, 09:06:31 AM
I have to say that you have a polite way of saying: "I think you are being judgemental based on appearances alone here". Still, it is a valid point, I suppose.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: shades of blue on August 31, 2014, 10:07:03 AM
Quote from: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 04:03:55 AM
:staredog:

So far, I've noticed that both shades of blue and Y_Anthony_Who consider them to be whores—that is, they look like whores. Surely everyone has their own opinions, but I have to wonder what about them makes them look like whores, whilst I've never seen a whore nor do I know what whores actually look like.

Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 29, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
(http://s10.postimg.org/gt717szcp/Bw_M5_RGd_CYAA5_V1_W.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)[

Firstly, the bunnygirl suit Mihoshi has on is a an outfit used in Japan at hostess bars. Hostess bars are more/less upscale gentleman's clubs. Where the girls flirt with businessmen much in the way some tart working at Hooters leads on drunken frat boys. But unlike those Hootersgirls, hostessgirls ofttimes are involved with drugs, prostitution & exchanging gifts for "sexual favors".

Without the lab coat Washu's outfit is really nothing more than a stripper outfit. Strip clubs being another part of Japan's sex industry. So once again we've got an outfit that is mostly degrading for women, a theme that carries through most of these outfits, and does nothing more than make them look increasingly desperate, as they continue to age. Which is another degrading theme in asian culture.

Ryoko is basically wearing a swimsuit & boots... I don't even need to say anymore than that. Really.

Now we get to Aeka and what do we have? I long dress slit all the way down the side. Have you ever seen a woman wear clothing like that, ever? The only times I've even seen such things were in movies or videogames, where once again a woman is playing some degrading role as a sex object, by wearing a china dress and curtsying to the whims of man.

Sasami's outfit is the only one even remotely close to being "acceptable" and lets be honest, the only reason why is because animators are afraid of going up against the newest Tokyo Prefectural laws.

So yes, I DO see a bunch of exploited women dressed like whores. The conceptual art has degraded every single one of them and placed them on a level previously not seen outside of hentai doujinshi. This is a major failure on the part of everyone involved. But hey, since this is just a cashgrab aimed at once again exploiting the name of "Tenchi Muyo", who gives a fuck, right?

Honestly, the only thing they got right was doing away with that dreaded 80s Artmic hair everyone has. Yet they weren't smart enough to ditch Tenchi's rat tail. :christ:
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Post by: antvasima on August 31, 2014, 12:04:45 PM
That was a well thought out answer. You get plus one from me.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 31, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Quote from: Y_Anthony_Who on August 31, 2014, 04:44:54 AMI'm passing the baton if anyone else wants to help.

They look like escorts at best and street walking hookers at worst.  I'm not going to pile on a bunch of words to justify my opinion.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Gaston on August 31, 2014, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on August 31, 2014, 10:07:03 AM
So yes, I DO see a bunch of exploited women dressed like whores. The conceptual art has degraded every single one of them and placed them on a level previously not seen outside of hentai doujinshi. This is a major failure on the part of everyone involved. But hey, since this is just a cashgrab aimed at once again exploiting the name of "Tenchi Muyo", who gives a fuck, right?

:worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
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Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 31, 2014, 01:30:43 PM
Whores are the best though. :son:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: shades of blue on August 31, 2014, 02:05:14 PM
Wanna know something funny? When I first saw Washu's new design the first thought to come to mind was of that midget in Total Recall. As not only is she wearing an outfit more suited for hooking, her physical dimensions look more along the lines of a "little person" than they do a "loli". The background music ever fits with this newer lewder Washu.

https://www.youtube.com/v/I1LCmMqxuG4
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Post by: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
A completely fair, justified observation on "whores", shades of blue. Another applaud, one more to your harem size. My perspective towards anime character design is kinda messed-up, it seems. Perhaps, I had some desensitization over time in the anime fandom. . . *_*
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Post by: Mewshuji on August 31, 2014, 02:53:01 PM
Humm... I'm afraid the only outfit I really see as truly more sexualized than the previous one is, well, Washu's. Mihoshi has previously worn bunnygirl-inspired pieces, Ryoko's is really only missing the long "loincloths" (I'm too lazy to look up the proper term right now) on her front and back, and while showing leg is out of character for Ayeka I... I'm really not sure how showing leg is inherently sexual? It's not like you can see up to her hoo-hah anyway, she has a little skirt under the dress too.

I certainly appreciate the thought put into the post but the only one who I think really looks "whorish" is Washu. Maybe I'm just desensitized myself? I dunno.
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Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on August 31, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
Quote from: Lоиεѕомεиεѕѕ on August 31, 2014, 05:04:18 AM
Your whole first paragraph is weird. It's odd. I was not asking you personally. Think of the thread topic at hand.
I'm talking about the derivative character designs here.
It's still unclear to me, but I think I understand your stereotypical perspective. I appreciate the reply though.

---___---    There is very clearly a communication barrier going on in addition to my terrible teaching skillz my roomate noted.

So thanks for explaining, Shades! You're way better at this than I am. I agree that Washu looks like a little person, but I had mixed feelings about that in particular. I mean on the one hand, it isn't Washu, but it already isn't Washu... so... more representation for little people in the media! I mean... right?   

But would any self-respecting little person want this sort of representation...
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 31, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on August 31, 2014, 01:30:43 PM
Whores are the best though. :son:

(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111121967/3436205-7911963661-no-no.gif)

To me though, its not necessarily about being whores, its just too fucking extra. They are all wearing heels, and I just see no reason for them to be wearing heels just to be wearing them. Who the hell wears heels for fighting and shit?

Same with the stockings, its just that we know how these characters like to dress, and this is very out of character for them. But.....Spinoff, so I'll sit back down now.
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Post by: Dr.Soviet on August 31, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
In all seriousness for me personally I find it very interesting to see the girls done by a different well known character designer.
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Post by: جبريل 無道 on August 31, 2014, 05:29:43 PM
For me it's about getting new fans into the franchise.  If it can achieve that, I'm happy.  If it can help get Tenchi If animated, it'll be a bonus.
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Post by: takahata on August 31, 2014, 05:43:40 PM
I do like the pictures. Unfortunately,  the first five do look like whores.  I wish that the pictures were tamer.
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Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 01, 2014, 03:50:03 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on August 31, 2014, 05:29:43 PM
If it can help get Tenchi If animated, it'll be a bonus.

And if it doesn't.....


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs1/1222234_o.gif)
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Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 02, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
In addition to her crab hair, I kinda wish they didn't erase Washu's Purple "Ponytails" that I felt connected her with Ayeka.  *sigh*

(http://s28.postimg.org/w7mwnzfbx/purple_ponytail_shippers_washu_and_ayeka_by_jibr.png) (http://postimage.org/)

BTW, how long does it take for streaming of these series to occur on crunchy roll or whatever?
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Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 02, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on September 02, 2014, 08:08:30 PM
BTW, how long does it take for streaming of these series to occur on crunchy roll or whatever?

(https://forums.oneplus.net/attachments/laughing-gif.10714/)

I love how we all just assumed this is getting translated on the fly. More like we're lucky if someone tries to do the blu rays.
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Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 02, 2014, 09:01:48 PM
I don't watch much anime, I didn't know crunchyroll was just legal stuff.  I mean how long usually is it will be until someone puts it up on some service?  The 5 eps as a bundle every weekend?  Within a few days of broadcast?
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Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 02, 2014, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on September 02, 2014, 09:01:48 PM
I don't watch much anime, I didn't know crunchyroll was just legal stuff.  I mean how long usually is it will be until someone puts it up on some service?  The 5 eps as a bundle every weekend?  Within a few days of broadcast?

That's what I'm saying though, we're not sure if this will get translated like that. Plenty of good shows go by and don't get translated or streamed. And the ones who are hoping Funimation picks this up understand this will be months after the series has already finished.

At best, I'm just expecting some japanese tv rips and we watch without understanding a damn word.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 02, 2014, 09:56:18 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on September 02, 2014, 09:29:51 PMAt best, I'm just expecting some japanese tv rips and we watch without understanding a damn word.

Given that this has a good chance of being highly gag based, good enough for me at the moment.
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Post by: Mewshuji on September 03, 2014, 02:36:12 AM
I will point out that Funimation has started "simulcasting" some of their picked up series, putting up subtitled versions of them about an hour or so after the initial Japanese broadcast. They have done it with several series I wouldn't expect a company to give such special treatment to.

So I figure, as Tenchi has a sort of nostalgia factor going for it and thus is more viable than some other series they're "simulcasting", they might try to capitalize on that and try to get simulcast rights for it. I know Funi's not very popular here at all in terms of their dubbing but I think they do a fine job at the very least with subtitles, so there's that?

... but then again unless you wanna pay a premium you have to wait a week for them to let you see it. And of course it's only an option for US and Canada residents. I think maybe some Caribbean nations and Mexico might have the option too but I cannot confirm that.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 03, 2014, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mewshuji on September 03, 2014, 02:36:12 AMI know Funi's not very popular here at all in terms of their dubbing but I think they do a fine job at the very least with subtitles, so there's that?

I heard their dubbing improved from a decade ago, fans of some shows like High School DxD think the American dubbing is superior to the original but since I watch subs anyway, it's a nonfactor.  What I didn't like about Funi is how bad their DVDs looked compared to the Japanese R1s.  Shades put up comparison shots of R1 vs Funi GXP, and the Funimation screens were blurry in comparison.

Maybe they improved that in the meantime, but back then I didn't feel bad skipping on buying all the post-Pioneer discs for that low quality just so they could save on pressing a buck pressing an extra DVD or two.
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Post by: Mewshuji on September 03, 2014, 11:34:17 PM
On the one hand they really have improved. So many of their actors and actresses are wonderful, especially some of the newer ones. There are definitely some huge stinkers though, still. On the other some Funi "alums", so to speak, like Laura Bailey, Troy Baker and Travis Willingham are no longer working with Funi save for coming back once in a while for recurring roles or new roles they really like, and are definitely among the top English VAs altogether nowadays, not just for dubbing. Though I do suppose Funi probably put more time and funding into their shows than some of the other early dubs they did, like OVA3.

I suppose it goes back to the idea that even if you get amazing actors, a horrible director can ruin the whole thing. Same with voice acting with the VAs and the VD. And even with a great director, if you don't have enough money to fund more time in the booth, you gotta stick with the takes you got.

Sorry if I seem a bit... passionate about it. I really appreciate the American dubbing industry in spite of some of the horrible quality stuff it can push out at times. So I've looked into it a lot.  :duck:

However, that's sort of offtopic as most of your post ins't about that. As far as the discs go, oh, the quality is MARKEDLY better now even for just DVDs, and the BRs are great. I have no idea why they made them so trashy before, but I agree, I recently rewatched OAV 3 and I was wondering if there was something wrong with my TV. If it really was just worrying about profits maybe they shouldn't have put out the show at all? Gahh...
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Post by: Surgeon Of Death on September 04, 2014, 01:27:45 AM
I just hope Crunchyroll gets it since usually Funi tends to fuck up on their streaming department. If none of the main 2 pick up the series then I just hope nyaa gets back up again. Wonder which fangroup is gonna sub it though.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 04, 2014, 01:55:52 AM
Quote from: Surgeon Of Death on September 04, 2014, 01:27:45 AM
just hope nyaa gets back up again.

(http://gifatron.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/situation-omg.gif)

What the hell happened to Nyaa?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on September 04, 2014, 02:15:32 AM
Nyaa, HorribleSubs and a few other anime torrenting sites are still being DDoS'd. Some are pointing fingers at the Japanese Government doing it cause of that new piracy thing going on.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 04, 2014, 05:45:37 AM
Well, they can just post it on the regular torrent sites instead.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on September 05, 2014, 02:52:17 AM
Nyaa is back up if anyone is wondering. Typical scriptkiddie DDoS attacks.

Also I think it would be weird if someone did pick this up and sub it. It just seems so... unnatural. I don't know what goes into translating moonspeak but for a five minute show? I'll probably eat my words eventually.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Mewshuji on September 05, 2014, 11:57:46 PM
People have subbed minute and 1/2 to 4 minute long shows before (when not including the 15 second long ED). Tono to Issho is probably the best example I can think of. Up on CR.

They seemed to have stopped in the second season though, wonder why.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi crap AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 06, 2014, 01:29:06 AM
Maybe they will be released in 5-episode segments online?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Harls on September 12, 2014, 10:37:25 AM
The show's website updated again, btw.  :duke:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 12, 2014, 11:43:41 AM
Hmm. Going by that the introduction image only features Tenchi and the bland schoolgirls, it doesn't seem like the original cast will be featured much in the show.

On the other hand, there is also another new image that features all of them.

http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/
http://t.co/Jde2NrUEu9
http://t.co/Ly37dzQmqt
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 12, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
This huge cast is a mystery to me.

:emot-iiam:
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Tensami on September 12, 2014, 01:50:59 PM
Still somewhat bummed about the changes to Sasami, they even removed her Pretty Sammy color scheme and fucked up her triangle. YOU DON'T FUCK WITH PERFECTION GUYS! But they did add the freckles back in so I'm happy. :D

Aoi looks adorable. Guess I'm gonna be drawing some Sasami x Aoi art ifyouknowwhatimean :heysexy: :heysexy: :heysexy:

Tenchi actually somewhat looks like Tenchi again.

Ayeka got her red-ish eyes back.

Hell, even Ryoko looks surprisingly good.

All in all, looks good. Really liking the art style. :)


Quote from: جبريل 無道 on September 12, 2014, 01:27:37 PM
This huge cast is a mystery to me.

The idol group needs to have their own characters.


And has anyone noticed the very strange lack of Ryo-Ohki?
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Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 12, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: Tensami on September 12, 2014, 01:50:59 PM
And has anyone noticed the very strange lack of Ryo-Ohki?

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 12, 2014, 03:07:54 PM
Kiyone isn't in it either, so I'm guessing that this isn't a continuation of Negishi's Tenchi Universe TV series?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 12, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: Tensami on September 12, 2014, 01:50:59 PM
And has anyone noticed the very strange lack of Ryo-Ohki?

Noticed it weeks ago.

Quote from: antvasima on September 12, 2014, 03:07:54 PM
Kiyone isn't in it either, so I'm guessing that this isn't a continuation of Negishi's Tenchi Universe TV series?

That much was obvious from the character bios weeks ago, like Washu being 20K years old.

I have a sinking feeling from the Promo art that this will be TinT2, at least in spirit.  Where Tenchi is going off somewhere, and the alien girls follow him to school, but with a much heavier emphasis on the new girls.  Look at the pic with ALL of the girls, and notice how Momo and Beni are dominating to Tenchi's left and right even with Ryoko and Ayeka there.

Am I wrong with these bios to think that the original girls were shoved in late in the process just to appease angry fans?

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 12, 2014, 03:31:01 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on September 12, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
Am I wrong with these bios to think that the original girls were shoved in late in the process just to appease angry fans?
I think that it is more likely that they expected angry old-timers either way, and as such first subjected them/us to a shock disappointment to then appease them/us by displaying a less disappointing truth.

It is fairly obvious that they are almost exclusively aiming for a new audience with this through more easily relatable/less unusual bland and generic school children viewpoint characters. They might reason that fantastic space aliens in a mostly slice of life genre may be harder to relate to for the average target audience viewer?
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 12, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
I just noticed.  6 out of 8 of the new girls have shortish hair.  Washu and I think Mihoshi also got their hair shortened.  Short hair must in voge now in anime characters.

First main Tenchi girl with short hair didn't come until Mayuka, Sakuya and she was the last until Noike cut hers to much consternation.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Dr.Soviet on September 12, 2014, 09:40:29 PM
>Ryoko daki finally comes out
>it's the Ai Tenchi version


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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Mewshuji on September 13, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
Now now, we all know the only merch that'll be made will be of the new girls because AIC is sure that they'll sell but don't think the originals will. Let's not get our hopes to have our hopes shattered up now.  :heysexy:

Though I would kill for new TM! Merch of any of the originals, regardless of the design...
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 13, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
Yeah, if they have a sketch book or what not, might order one.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on September 14, 2014, 12:18:00 AM
More Tenchi merch would be awesome....I'd love to see AIC and Max Factory step their game up and release some figma of the old Tenchi cast. Hell I'd even take nendoroids if they had any.
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on September 15, 2014, 11:37:31 AM
More AiTM promotional art going around:
https://twitter.com/S_OHYASHIKI/status/511140102513238016/photo/1

Now this looks really touristy.  Again, no original cast to be seen.  That's starting a trend.  Hopefully the touristy thing is just once in a while.

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 20, 2014, 04:57:10 AM
I collected most of the known Ai Tenchi Muyo information on this Tenchi Wiki page: http://tenchi.wikia.com/wiki/Ai_Tenchi_Muyo
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: antvasima on September 26, 2014, 09:37:54 AM
Some sort of radio program (possibly an interview) seems to be advertised (for some reason Google translate doesn't activate for the page): http://www.ai-tenchi.jp/radio/index.html
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Surgeon Of Death on October 04, 2014, 11:50:36 PM
Any trailers yet? It's out tomorrow and yet there's no trailers out for it. Usually anime have PVs and trailers and stuff. Not only that neither Funi or Crunchy announced anything for simulcasting Ai Tenchi....This anime really is trying to fall under the radar...

If you're curious Crunchyroll's got a list of their current fall simulcasts and there's only 5 anime left they haven't announced yet for the fall...I'm hoping they get it.
http://www.crunchyroll.com/lineup
Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: جبريل 無道 on October 05, 2014, 10:11:49 AM
Just these countdown reminders (Tenchi is holding the Tenchi-ken in one of them) and a screenshot:

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Title: Re: The new "Tenchi Muyo" series is a Negishi created AU (Original Cast Confirmed!)
Post by: Dr.Soviet on October 05, 2014, 01:27:14 PM
One day left!

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