Useless Tenchi

Anime => Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki => Topic started by: جبريل 無道 on December 06, 2013, 07:57:47 PM

Title: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 06, 2013, 07:57:47 PM
Mihoshi.  It's not that I disliked her, it's just that she was just kind of there and annoying when put with one of my favorites, Kiyone. 

But she's really sweet in the OAV, especially in ep7 with her Tenchi & Sasami moment.  Plus she has elf ears, no one ever mentions them but I like elf ears.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 06, 2013, 09:56:51 PM
Same. In fact, although I'm always going on about not really having a favorite, Mihoshi would be the closest thing to having a favorite. She gets the virginity night, then the rest would have to roll a dice or something. Or make some kind of schedule.

Though, I still can't stand her personality in Universe and OVA 3.

Seiryo is a cool dude too. OVA 2 episode 13 made him look like a bitch and GXP...kinda did the same lol. But they did a decent job fleshing his character out and made him look like a overall good person at heart. He can be pretty smooth too with the ladies when he actually tries, and his theme song helps.

Chihaya....FUCK DAT BITCH. For all the Noike hate, she ain't shit compared to this trifling whore, was willing to kill Kenshi over some dick that doesn't even care about her, thirsty and desperate, very unappealing. And then didn't even warm up to him at the end of the series and still acted bitchy. Yea, the Tsundere thing ain't for me if they're like 90% Tsun and .5% Dere. Other 9.5% dumbass.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Harls on December 06, 2013, 11:20:24 PM
Mihoshi has ears?!  :fuck:
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 07, 2013, 05:52:16 AM
I didn't care about Seiryo in OVA 2 and GXP made me like him.

Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on December 06, 2013, 09:56:51 PM
Yea, the Tsundere thing ain't for me if they're like 90% Tsun and .5% Dere. Other 9.5% dumbass.

.5% Dere ? You are too generous. I would said. .000000000005 %.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 07, 2013, 06:44:06 AM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on December 06, 2013, 09:56:51 PMShe gets the virginity night, then the rest would have to roll a dice or something.

I like Washu for that, as long as it''s ep8 at-the-dock Washu and not ep7 laboratory Washu O.o

After that, I think Kami Tenchi can split himself up a la ep7 Ryoko for the rest of them so they don't fight so much (would the 2 Tenchis at ep20 count as such?).  Recombine at the next mealtime.

P.S.  I'm happy I could inspire some Tenchi talk here, if even just a little bit, whee!  :shygirl:
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Zigra on December 07, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
Nope. The feelings I've had for these characters from the beginning remain true to this day. Of the main family in TM!, Sasami/Tsunami is my favorite by far. Aeka and Washu are secondary favorites whom I like but don't love. I'm completely apathetic towards Mihoshi. And I hate Ryoko. And that's not even getting into the TM! cast outside the main family. That's the way I've always felt, and will likely always continue to feel.

Edit: Correction, I did end up finding Seiryo to be a much cooler character in GXP than how he was originally portrayed in OAV 2. Can't really think of anybody else, though.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 07, 2013, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on December 07, 2013, 06:44:06 AM

P.S.  I'm happy I could inspire some Tenchi talk here, if even just a little bit, whee!  :shygirl:

I can talk about the dumb things in the French translations of the first manga if someone is interesting.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Dr.Soviet on December 07, 2013, 07:56:55 PM
I like Ayeka a lot more now that I'm older.

On the flip side I don't like Kiyone anymore.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 08, 2013, 08:25:24 AM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on December 07, 2013, 07:56:55 PMOn the flip side I don't like Kiyone anymore.

Makibi or Mama?
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: shades of blue on December 08, 2013, 11:08:28 AM
Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?

Sakuya. While I never liked Tokyo, because of how it slaughtered everyone's personalities, I did grow to like her. I don't believe I've ever really disliked any of the core characters, so there were no others that grew on me as the story unfolded.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 08, 2013, 01:30:33 PM
Sakuya is what happens when you apply real life drastic measures to fantasy harem life. Dude has a harem and you want him? Take him away from the harem. Compliment him once in a while, make him feel like a cool guy. And you will see results.

Hell this wasn't rocket science, basic courting and social habitats for high schoolers IMO, not like Haruna's method of brain washing and stuff. Speaking of Haruna, though she had an extreme case of "he left me I need a rebound", at least Tenchi got some ass. Canon or not, TMIL 2 gets the one up on Kajishima til he animates the Noike session, cause animated > drawn every time lol.

Hell, I don't even care for Kiyone much, and I'd still probably smash. Screw Chihaya and I'd probably smash, but she ain't meeting moms or anything, don't deserve it. She gets the "you're only for sex" treatment.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Dr.Soviet on December 08, 2013, 02:39:40 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on December 08, 2013, 08:25:24 AM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on December 07, 2013, 07:56:55 PMOn the flip side I don't like Kiyone anymore.

Makibi or Mama?

Makibi
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: animecartoonfan on December 09, 2013, 04:17:54 PM
I agree with Tenchi Ryu. Fuck Chiaia, I hate tsunderes in general and plus I like Noike WAY more Kiyone Makibi
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Dr.Soviet on December 09, 2013, 05:48:21 PM
Quote from: animecartoonfan on December 09, 2013, 04:17:54 PM
I agree with Tenchi Ryu. Fuck Chiaia, I hate tsunderes in general and plus I like Noike WAY more Kiyone Makibi

Not gonna lie way back in the day I was one of those people that didn't like the idea of Noike (Not because she replaced Kiyone mind you) but after watching OVA 3 I don't really mind her.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 09, 2013, 09:42:08 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on December 09, 2013, 05:48:21 PM

Not gonna lie way back in the day I was one of those people that didn't like the idea of Noike (Not because she replaced Kiyone mind you) but after watching OVA 3 I don't really mind her.

Unfortunately (or probably fortunately for that matter considering the state of the fanbase back then lol) I didn't even know Tenchi was still on going and at best thought it was just gonna be that old show I'd think about from my kid days when toonami came on.

So my freshman year at college which was bout 4 years ago is when I had a bunch of free time and decided to check out Tenchi again. That's when I realized there was more episodes in the form of OVA 3, and it was around the time Funimation just finished dubbing it. So I DL'd the dual audio batch from Exiled Destiny (didn't really know about the anime fansub groups at the time, was just megaupload downloading shit randomly and ended up with the whole 6 episodes). But I went and watched the whole thing from 1-3 compared to just watching 3, so it might have a reason why I was never hostile towards it.

Then I decided to see if there was a place to talk Tenchi and that's when I found the NNFT board, but mofos was wildin out over there and split up into the current 2 main cores just around the time I actually joined.

Crazy all this is like in a 4 year time span. Well I guess 5 now since we're approaching 2014.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Tensami on December 09, 2013, 10:59:21 PM
I didn't like Noike at all the first time I saw OVA 3, but she's grown on me (just like OVA 3 did). She's still not close to being my favorite (I don't like bossy people), but I do think she is pretty damn hot when she's got long hair. "And being hot is pretty much always what it's all about." - Nelson Mandela

I'm the only one that likes Chiaia...  :shyboy:


My first reaction to seeing Ryoko was: (https://24.media.tumblr.com/d057eb43191623fa5db02e209f06251f/tumblr_mnbyamVpNh1qeghpao2_1280.png) seriously, grey hair and everything...

I do like Ryoko though, but some of her rabid fanbase *coughTFcough* can make me dislike her at times, until I remember that disliking a character because of the fanbase is fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: shades of blue on December 10, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
Personally I've never had any issue with Noike, aside from her decision to lop off that long luscious hair. Back when GXP was first released fansubbed I remember thinking who's this chick?! And ugh, short hair... FYI 90% of women with short hair look like shit. Then a couple years later she got a proper introduction with OVA3. The rest really is just history, as they say. In fact if I had any issue, it's that she told Ayeka & Ryoko the truth about why she was there too soon. They really should have played that out throughout OVA3.

I never minded that she "replaced" Kiyone Makibi, whom was really just an overworked 80s career woman with no interest in teenage boys and possibly men in general and wore gawky 80s aerobics gear with everything. And no, I don't give a flying crap how she was portrayed in a bunch of really crappy lightnovels, that will never be translated to English and I certainly do not give a flying crap how anyone was portrayed in Tokyo. That's right, I can use that "defense" too. Ha-Ha.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 10, 2013, 03:04:17 PM
But I like Ryoko...
Well, she was my childhood favorite character until I re-watched Tenchi Muyo when I was older. Then I began to appreciate the others. Especially Aeka.
White hair, ironically, is very appealing to us. I don't know why, especially when we associate it with death, demons, ghosts, the afterlife.... and then to find it appealing.

I just had a terrifying probable realization. That one will not appreciate the tsundere character, unless they had an Asian mother... And.... No, that's just terrifying.
I do not approve of Tenchi x Achika/Kiyone! >.<
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: shades of blue on December 10, 2013, 03:51:08 PM
Quote from: Auir on December 10, 2013, 03:04:17 PM

White hair, ironically, is very appealing to us. I don't know why, especially when we associate it with death, demons, ghosts, the afterlife.... and then to find it appealing.

As a kid you just watched The Bride With White Hair one too many times, admit it. :smug:

https://www.youtube.com/v/8Fdi2DMeZlI
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 10, 2013, 04:12:17 PM
No, it wasn't that.
I don't believe I watched that one actually. >.>
It may have been the TV series version of that. But I don't think the storylines are matching up.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 10, 2013, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Auir on December 10, 2013, 03:04:17 PM
I just had a terrifying probable realization. That one will not appreciate the tsundere character, unless they had an Asian mother... And.... No, that's just terrifying.

What. I don't dislikes Chia because her mom is not Asian but because she is always bitch to Kenchi and even trying kill him for a guy who doesn't even like her.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 10, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
Nonono, that's not the message I was getting at. >.<
It's something only those who grew up in similar circumstances understand.
Edit:
Here, let me explain. A person's psych will develop around their surroundings and things that influence them in their everyday lies. In some cases, certain fetishes might occur when females act in a way a very influential person would.
And that thought is terrifying to me.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 10, 2013, 07:57:30 PM
Okay, so you think nobody outside Japan can likes tsundere ? That weird because the first anime forum I was a member was a French Rumiko Takahashi site where most of the people liked Akane and I see many French and English people liking pairing with tsundere as Asuka x Shinji from NGE or Louise x Saito from Familiar of Zero. Yes, it has people who dislikes tsundere, but others like it. And it has also the case of people who likes tsunderes and dislike others. For example, I like Sanada from Dual because she is not a total bitch like Chia.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 10, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on December 10, 2013, 08:53:27 AMI never minded that she "replaced" Kiyone Makibi, whom was really just an overworked 80s career woman with no interest in teenage boys and possibly men in general and wore gawky 80s aerobics gear with everything. And no, I don't give a flying crap how she was portrayed in a bunch of really crappy lightnovels, that will never be translated to English and I certainly do not give a flying crap how anyone was portrayed in Tokyo. That's right, I can use that "defense" too. Ha-Ha.

But.... the novels were the originals, at least pertaining to her.  This post makes me sad ._. 

I'll be honest, I like Kiyone for what I pretend her to be and not really the novels and that her character design would look good with Tenchi.  Though while I can't get into Noike, I don't really mind if others can.  But I don't buy the TU portrayal of her as a career woman either, since the show started the  butcher of everyone else.  If she were to be put in the OAV, MK could essentially have a blank slate and he did think Kiyone would be the best of all the girls for Tenchi.

The novels were crappy and even the Ryoko fanbois at certain places have no interest in Hasegawa's weird stories (including the incestuous Mayuka ones) beyond the fact she was a Ryoko fangirl.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 10, 2013, 09:07:16 PM
I mean the b**chy characters.
Edit:
That's where I find the part people don't really appreciate and hate. The character's tendency to act dominant and get on other people's nerves. Or, truly dominate other people. It's rare to see anyone appreciate those kinds of characters.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Dr.Soviet on December 10, 2013, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: Auir on December 10, 2013, 09:07:16 PM
I mean the b**chy characters.
Edit:
That's where I find the part people don't really appreciate and hate. The character's tendency to act dominant and get on other people's nerves. Or, truly dominate other people. It's rare to see anyone appreciate those kinds of characters.

Did you really just censer your self?
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 10, 2013, 09:52:34 PM
I thought I always did. >.>
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 11, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
Quote from: Auir on December 10, 2013, 09:07:16 PM
I mean the b**chy characters.
Edit:
That's where I find the part people don't really appreciate and hate. The character's tendency to act dominant and get on other people's nerves. Or, truly dominate other people. It's rare to see anyone appreciate those kinds of characters.

Asuka and Louise does it and I see them having a lot of fans. 
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Zigra on December 11, 2013, 07:53:34 AM
Quote from: Gaston on December 11, 2013, 05:56:42 AM
Quote from: Auir on December 10, 2013, 09:07:16 PM
I mean the b**chy characters.
Edit:
That's where I find the part people don't really appreciate and hate. The character's tendency to act dominant and get on other people's nerves. Or, truly dominate other people. It's rare to see anyone appreciate those kinds of characters.

Asuka and Louise does it and I see them having a lot of fans.

Yeah, also, Akane Tendo has a lot of fans on both sides of the Pacific, and she's one of the most well known tsunderes out there.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 11, 2013, 01:51:14 PM
How large in comparison? And, did they grow up in similar conditions? Being around... b**chy people?
Edit:
My hypothesis is that, for people to stand or like these types of characters, they must have been through similar situations in the past where they developed a resistance or some kind of defense mechanism like fetishes to deal with it.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Gaston on December 11, 2013, 02:52:22 PM
Quote from: Auir on December 11, 2013, 01:51:14 PM
How large in comparison? And, did they grow up in similar conditions? Being around... b**chy people?

Asuka and Louise does grow up with asshole, but I am not sure about Akane who has jerk in her family but I don't think they abused her. About the comparison, that pretty much personal. For example, some people can found Louise using a whip on the guy she is supposed loving worst than Chia trying killing Kenshi and others people would had the opposite opinion.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 11, 2013, 09:51:48 PM
Well, I was sort of asking about the demographics of the fans.
But at least I see the theory somewhat applies with the characters. ^^'

(Aimed at all non-Chia fans)
Can you describe why you don't like Chia and her actions? Or is it one of those unexplainable things?
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 12, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
I'm not a major Kenshi fan, but from how I write Tsundere in my mind, I tend to write ones that are mean because they have to be.  Without getting into one to closely, one Tsundere I imagined up, starts getting mad and violent because she's cursed to do so when around the boy she loves, not for lacking loving thoughts.

I think a tsundere needs some type of redeeming quality in some way to work, she really loves her object of abuse/affection (ooa), her family is taken hostage by antagonists and she lashes out, anything.

I don't see such a thing for Chaia.  In fact, I don't even know if she is a Tsundere.  A tsundere harbors a secret love toward the ooa that no one knows about but is revealed in some way.  I don't recall such a revelation.  For all I know, she's just a nasty person and doesn't even have the decency to be a yandere then._.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 12, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
There's all the tsun but none of the dere. >.<
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 12, 2013, 08:11:42 PM
Yus, in that sense Chaia is a TSUNdere.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 12, 2013, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on December 06, 2013, 09:56:51 PM
Yea, the Tsundere thing ain't for me if they're like 90% Tsun and .5% Dere. Other 9.5% dumbass.
There's my mathematical equation to it.


So Dumb-Tsunjackass
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 12, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
Does anyone ever get the overwhelming feeling to hug a TSUNdere
Did I get that right?
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 12, 2013, 10:49:12 PM
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Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 12, 2013, 10:59:42 PM
T_T I'm saying yes but my fight or flight response is saying no.
Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: جبريل 無道 on December 12, 2013, 11:22:27 PM
What?!  Are you saying you'd try to steal me from my beloved Daddy Tenchi?!

(http://i.imgur.com/SSzjDNy.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/O2hp7XR.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/YpliroL.gif)

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(http://i.imgur.com/wiShyIZ.jpg)

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Title: Re: Is there a character you were meh about that you grew into liking?
Post by: Auir on December 12, 2013, 11:49:05 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/QR8zo5J.gif)
(http://riddhiroy19.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/jack-jack-sparrow-johnny-depp-pirates-of-caribbean-run-favim-com-238755.gif)

Edit: I feel like we got severely sidetracked....