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Title: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: kazekaeru on November 02, 2016, 02:56:04 PM
On GXP novel 11, as I understand, Washu was at Seniwa because Mikumo was dying. Washu apparently read a will or statement & the Kuramitsu were shocked to see her.

Does anyone have more details as far as what was said during that chapter? I'm dying to know what transpired in the long awaited meeting of Washu & her descendants.  :sus:

Thanks to anyone who can support with details!  :parrot:
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Dr.Soviet on November 03, 2016, 01:51:14 AM
If I remember right some of the family members were aware of her, I'll have to find out more.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: glacierlioness on November 04, 2016, 11:16:43 AM
Does anybody here have scans of gxp novel 11? I tried to find different sites of it but it turns out nothing of the sort. I really wanted to see this unless it hasnt been released yet. If it has been released can someone give me a link to it plz?
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on November 04, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
Post edited: this was very preliminary and off translating for temporary more accurate translations see the translation snippet section and go to the end of this post for more properly translated segments.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on November 08, 2016, 03:29:41 PM
update: I have aquired  11 and have SUCESSFULLY STRIPPED the furingana. it is one of 7 chapters it seems I CAN HAVE THIS DONe IN NO TIME!
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on November 08, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on November 08, 2016, 03:29:41 PM
update: I have aquired  11 and have SUCESSFULLY STRIPPED the furingana. it is one of 7 chapters it seems I CAN HAVE THIS DONe IN NO TIME!


You're the man.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on November 09, 2016, 09:05:30 AM
redacted

Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on November 09, 2016, 09:32:17 AM
seriously though who is taima. is he like mikumo's younger brother from another mother. because that's the vibe im getting.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on November 09, 2016, 02:34:20 PM
I actually don't know who Taima is, I think he might be new. If it reads like his younger brother from his dad's second wife then that makes sense. If you think that's what's up, it's probably right. That being said... the name is familiar, but I might just remember it from someone else's briefer summary.

So Mihoshi is gonna find out she's related to Washu? That would be good, I think. It's interesting to me that Washu used her imprisonment by Kagato and subsequent rescue as a chance to escape the public eye. I wonder if she didn't announce her return on purpose or if she just didn't care enough or was too distracted to make any announcements. It's Washu, though, so I assume it was something that occurred to her.

Thanks a lot! I'm excited for more!
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on November 10, 2016, 04:08:56 PM
i was having a stressfull day yesterday so i didnt translate much and what i did translate was the dialogue not the details (im at a very bring part of chapter 2 where kai looks for seina in the house while he talks on the phone kajishim over expanded it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much)

anyways what i got was

「!?......I object! Who let this person in here?」
「......oh!? Well speaking of mikami, didnt say say  "we should be expecting someone"?Is this what she meant?」
「Why yes, dear Ms. Washu is who I meant. Well then, please do come in.」-mikami probably
「What、Wait a moment! WHY IS THIS WOMAN HERE AND WHO IS SHE!?」-probably taima all he/she does is freak out.
「Little Boy, please wait here obediently. This will be over shortly」 -washu probably
「!!?」
「......どういう。どういう事なのだ? Mikamiっ!」 - havent translated but its probably. What what is the meaning of this mikami  or some other line of outrage from taima... he is basicly mad as hell over something

「......Taima-dono, Dont you know that everyone, even your honerable father, is decended from both a father and a mother?
   「How can this be... Is this real!? Is it  even possible......」

「Miss Washu Hakubi.... is our honerable father Mikumo's Mother.」
   「......!!?」


"...Mikami。This situation can not be known to outsiders."
   「Well just remember, I don't prefer needless interference.」
   「I understand!」

「But that depends on them(they/him derrogiroty) , Dont you agree?」
「Of corse it does.」
「!!」
   『Ive been watching my progeny obsessing over my reputation for long a while now』

   「...... well then, I shall convey to you the last will and testament of Mikumo Kuramitsu」

「The heir to be current head of  this householdは、The head of the Kuramitsu family、 Is Minami Kuramitsu.」
「!!」


and thats as far as i got theres alot of dialog after that and walls and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllls of decription text

Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on November 10, 2016, 05:26:15 PM
Mihoshi's grandpa's the heir, huh? We all know Mikami's gonna be the real boss, harhar.

I love this. I'd even love the boring stuff, but I understand you not wanting to translate everything. Thank you for all the work you do. I can't kiss your ass enough! Harhar! I'm just so grateful! Your translations are helping me escape my own horrible situation, so I empathize with the rough time you've had, whatever caused it. Don't feel pressured to rush. I appreciate any and all work you and others in this community do to help increase our knowledge, access, and understanding of Kajishima's world.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: cantonesejim on November 18, 2016, 02:06:29 AM
scans of 1-12 are in the lierature back up: here-->http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=1083.0 (http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=1083.0)
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: cantonesejim on November 18, 2016, 04:01:14 PM
1 - 14 now.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on December 25, 2016, 07:35:53 AM
ok so i was a bit wrong it seems his nurse read the will and both mikumo and taima inhereted controle...
im going to post the google translate version today it reads well enough that you can hear what goes on for yourself if you put it in google translate and hit the voice to text button

best quote its given me so far is
"As a mother ...... I can not put up with my son's body being made a piece of crappy politics, do you understand?"
 Washu's facial expression changes completely.
 "!!"
 It is this thing with the frog glared at the snake ─ ─ Taima suddenly solidified like cold water was bathed in. I was told again of who I am in front of me. But for Washu, even those who responded gently. If she is seriously intimidating, Taima would have been incontinent. Those familiar with the human being Washu can cause cardiac paralysis.
 "Well, the story is here, so do not forget the will of Mikumo."
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: spokethewind on December 29, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
augh! yes this is awesome!! i love washu, so knowing more about her involvement with her son makes my LIFE!!! i thought you were too busy to continue to translate her first encounter with him and his family, so thank you so much!! i am wondering if they write about them finally meeting face to face and having a conversation in this novel. i know they meet again in GXP novel 14, and i think they do have a conversation... but i have no idea what they talk about (sadly the japanese wiki will only tell me so much). thanks again and can't wait to learn more!!  :bravo:
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on December 29, 2016, 04:00:50 PM
Quote from: spokethewind on December 29, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
augh! yes this is awesome!! i love washu, so knowing more about her involvement with her son makes my LIFE!!! i thought you were too busy to continue to translate her first encounter with him and his family, so thank you so much!! i am wondering if they write about them finally meeting face to face and having a conversation in this novel. i know they meet again in GXP novel 14, and i think they do have a conversation... but i have no idea what they talk about (sadly the japanese wiki will only tell me so much). thanks again and can't wait to learn more!!  :bravo:

I am for now but i have done a quick name translation + google translation of the chapter and it is in the translation snipits section. it isnt hard to understand what's going on . for now it will have to do
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on December 30, 2016, 02:29:06 AM
alright this chapter is so fucking short i can knock it out so easy... so here goes I was off on alot man my translation methods have gotten so refined since then.  I'm uploading here directly as i do this with summarized updates below:
This chapter is about mikumo not naming an heir and calling a meeting to name one.
Taima's relation in the family tree is fuck if i know yet but if i make it to the end and i do not find it I am going to assume that he is stepson of mikumo or more likely minami and mikami's half brother but he is second on the mens elder council of seiniwa.

     Tenchi gxp vol.1 Chapter 3.1 by kajishima masaki
Translated by Zenith Madisico, a.k.a. Fap_fapperson

   1[ Mother and child]
  On this day、The governing body of the Galaxy federation was surrounded in an atmosphere tenser then it had ever been before. It was because of the news that Mikuko Kurumitsu, The Most elder member of the whole Kurumitsu family was in critical condition.
Originally the reason the Galactic Federation was established was to combine the wised om of royal academy of Jurai with the strength of the second most powerful country,Seiniwa, via Mikumo Kurumitsu's private army.This established the supporting foundation of the Galactic Federation and birthed two child organisations, The Galaxy Police and The Galaxy Academy.
   But having two organisations made a huge difference. The Royal academy was owned by the nation of Jurai, but the most elder kurumitsu, Mikumo Kurumitsu,  was the sovereign of the 2nd largest nation. Because the Private military was his alone, his death would be a great event that had the potential to alter the power structure of the Galaxy Police completely.

But getting to the point, the eldest Kurumitsu, Mikumo was currently under heavy criticisms over the news of his condition. During the memorial at Mikumo's Estate, in the antechamber of home, the Kurumitsu family and two other groups were seated, The second head member of the Seiniwa Elder Men's Association and the second head of the Seiniwa Elder Women's Association's were gathered. The reason why the second head members where present was that their presidents were Mikumo and Mikami respectively. Therefore, each of the co-chairs where here to representative their organisations.
"Why has our fatherly master Invited all of us here if he is not yet ready to hand down His verdict!"
Kurumitsu Taima, who sat in the President of the Seiniwa Elder Men's Association's seat , raised his voice in frustration breaking long silence .
"............"
Usually, such acts of frustration and loud outbursts in this sacred place wouldnt be tolerated but, Neither Minami, nor Mikami,  nor any other family member of the Kurumitsu family had been told anything. There were only those who were saddened for the coming loss of their father, and those who felt the same doubts that were the cause for Taima's frustration.
There were several things complicating the situation this time, one of which was that Mikumo was still the head of the family. Originally, the main candidate should have been nominated earlier, but someone worthy of nominating himself to take Mikumo's place had not appeared because none could surpass Mikumo's greatness. And due to Mikumo 's unusually long - lived live, no one publicly wanted the appearance of assuming the nomination until he was finally deceased. So naturally, The result was a last minute nomination.

-----------------------------update two

Of course there was a similar situation in the past.Upon receiving the news of the current head of the family's serious condition, their descendants convened together in his final moments to bear witness an audience the head of the family. Then their verdict was passed down and one person waiting in the room was bequeathed the title. The person who was left the title was still young, and a candidate was left an adult proxy in the will. But at this time everyone in the antechamber was continuing to wait for a will to be passed down.. It seemed like it was taking forever and ever to name a successor during what was an emergency situation, It's natural and justified that some of their were getting angry. Taima was especially frustrated because he was confident that it was going to be him called first, and he was waiting for that ecstatic moment. And if no word was received and Mikumo collapses, then the first born would automatically be heired the position. If that happened, there was the possibility of a civil war breaking out.
"THIS IS BULLSHIT!",Taima's frustration was reaching it's limit.
Even though he was the vice chairman of the Seiniwa elder Men's commitee, Taima was not of full Seiniwan descent* This was the second reason that Taima was confident in his estimation of the possibility of him being nominated by Mikumo to be the next head of the family.

(Tn* it says not of human decent and then the next paragraph says he is... and I don't think Seiniwans are human so i put not fully).

The first reason was, simply put, Mikumo Kurumitsu's controversial ideology. Although Taima was a humanoid, the appearance of his white skin and green eyes made it obvious that he was mixed with the DNA of humanoid from a different star system. And because of this he was in the direct line of succession Kurumitsu line, but for a long time he was a long way off from the top. However, thanks to Mikumo's achievements of becoming the driving force in establishing the GP and the Galactic Federation, Mikumo had much more influence than the actual owner of Seiniwa within the Galactic Federation. Particularly in the GP, which is one of the two major organizations supporting the Galactic Federation, Mikumo's private army was the mother body, so even for the head of Seiniwa, it was virtually impossible impose their will without going through Mikumo's approval first.
As the number of members to the Galactic Federation increased to counter the pirates, and its scale started to expand rapidly, Seiniwa's voice within the Galactic Federation gradually became smaller and Jurai was also lagging behind . Contrarily though, Mikumo, who was the secretary of the GP, gained an even bigger voice.
update 3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Seiniwa elder Men's committee and the Seiniwa elder Women's committee, in response to the unexpected power reversal, felt they were in crisis. so they approached the head of the Kurumitsu family at the time, and Mikumo when he finally received the nomination.  Because of this Mikumo emphasized the ability of others, and not the bloodline, and he began to respect the opinions of the elders' association and the elderly women's association.
Although Mikumo emphasized ability, the direct line of succession of the Kurumitsu family was still the best for nomination. But because this was about picking Mikumo's successor in particular and not someone else's, it was better for the successor to have as many possible elements of both to convince everyone. And both elders were of the same opinion.
The birth of Mikami showed signs of breaking down the long-lasting deadlock. She was the first born of her family and she was expected to take the position from a young age, she was initially thought of as being the right person for the position by Mikumo as well as the elders associations, but in Mikami's youth she demonstrated a tremendous amount of foolishness and showed that she was willing to start fights regardless of her opponent. and then finally Jurai's took an extremely aggressive position against her, and as such it became clear that naming Mikami head of the family wouldn't proceed, They decided to wait and keep watch as she grew into her adulthood to see if she would change her composure.
But Mikumo's lifetime Wouldn't last forever. As his age advanced Mikumo's participation in politics decreased due to old age. That began to cause the reversal of the power between Mikumo and the heads of the Seiniwan state. Of course there were many people who were interested in the well-being of the Mikumo administration, but many people were dissatisfied with the feeling of impedance against matters that were held up in deadlocked for so long. So, eventually it became the elders councils the opinion that Mikami's younger brother minami should have been positioned as the next family. 

Mikami was obviously superior to even mikumo as a family head, but Minami was also prominent in terms of talent, and moreover, minami was straight forward and easy to control and was thought to be a convenient choice by the elders' association, And Mikumo who ultimately was to make the decision did not dispute that opinion, it became a decisive matter, minami became the candidate for the next term main. But Minami had caused a scandal that had him demoted the position of head of ship maintenance of the GP, and it created a big shadow on the appointment of him as the successor.
(*Tn: For the casual reader: He authorized the use of the chobimaru in ova 3 and he was demoted in the special episode)
The next candidate was the child of minami, but Mitoto was personally unsuitable for the position and Her husband Nakita was Minami's adopted son-in-law.

(Tn: japanise just says Exactly: Mitoto usual disposition head of family was unfit for, husband nakita son in law I'm going to take the brevity and divisiveness of this to imply that nakita is unfit because he is only adopted into the family and that he is of the character to marry to someone like mitoto but all it says of nikita is: husband nikita is minami adopted son in law.)

His grand daughter Mihoshi had a past mental illness and was in the middle of receiving treatment for it.




(Tn: And with that I have found probably the first official quote on what's mihoshi's problem since the translation of tenchi101facts You are welcome... for posterity the line is 孫のMihoshiは過去の精神障害と治療が継続-中である為 still vauge, but its something. )

Therefore, she can not be a candidate, Her brother Misao is still too young,and mikami has no children, there was no one else who could be nominated as the head of the Kurumitsu family at that time.

update 4 happy new years----
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"Of course, Mikami or minami will ultimately be the Head of family, but in  meantime I am the vice chair of the elder men's council they should have  already named me the as their proxy."
Taima had also served as the head of the GP in the past, and still maintained heavy responsibilities within the operations of the GP; And since he had also been acting as Mikumo's representative in the council, it was natural for him to think that. But never the less...
Click clack click...
At that time, the sound of someone walking reverberated from a corridor which should have been silent. The sounds of the foot steps were easily discernible as being to composed and elegant to be that of one of Mikumo's servants.
"Who Is That!?"
all the people in the the room became nervous and looked confused as soon as they heard the footsteps. It was as if the footsteps were filled with dignity of the Lord of that house. Was Mikumo making an appearance? It confused everyone. But the footsteps are coming from a corridor in the direction opposite to the room where Mikumo was. Everyone in between was the elite of Seiniwa, but their combined strength did not save them from the confusion caused by these footsteps.
    "Who Is that!?"
He was convinced that the footsteps were not Mikumo's, but still Taima was  was embarrassed to even have to ask this question. He had a bad feeling that it was someone coming to tell everyone that no decision would ever be made.* But of course no such thing was happening.

─ ─ ─ that was just a figment of his imagination.*

**TN:guess translation too lazy to hold up the damn translation over a few nonsense lines

Taima thought that at least the confusion would settle if the person behind the footsteps appeared and identified themselves. But, that wasn't the case
Boom ─ ─ ─ The Doors opened, Taima eyes and mouth opened wide and was stunned when he saw the figure of the person who was standing in the doorway . Of course, the same was true for other members of the Kurumitsu family.
"... .... Washu-chan?"
Mihoshi who was half in tears had a stupefied expression on her face  as she tilted her head. There was Hakubi Washu standing in the back of a dark corridor, upon her adult figure was her splendid red hair that  looked like the the fire of the fireplace had jumped off the fireplace and onto her head.
"Welcome, Washu-sama"
Mikami had stood up near the door when she heard footsteps and was waiting for Washu. And she praised and worshiped as her as if she was the lord of this house.
"... WHAT..., No way ...... Why?"
The meaning of that word by Taima is complicated.
─ ─ ─ Why are you alive?
─ ─ ─ Why now?
─ ─ ─ Why did you come here?
Rumors of Washu's survival had always been whispered. However, if it had been five thousand years since she went missing, Washu's existence was only a legend, and in fact in fact there were very few who's legacies had survived as long as Washu's. Of course, Taima was a part of generation that has never seen Washu. The rumor had an implied level of fear of Washu 's directly attached to it, the rumor that she was alive was on same as level of that of Bigfoot, vampires, and the chupacabra, it was a trash tabloid level idle gossip.*

*tn: Originally it says ufo's and uma's (cryptids)and its a "yeah that's funny story" kind of rumor. but this is Tenchi ... ufo's are real... the analogy doesn't fit the story's operating logic and doesn't translate well.

Although he had not actually met her, enormous amounts of video material on Washu's were still around and there was no doubt that the person in front of him was Washu, at least in appearance. Of course, appearance was proof of nothing, in a world where technologies existed that could change as much as anything were commonplace. But a woman who could unnerve Taima with just her footsteps alone couldn't be just anyone, much less a woman who, with only her eyes could impart such a tremendous and overwhelming presence、When he noticed Washu's presence. Taima understood in an instant how it was that where People who worshiped and feared washu and nothing but Washu.

But what was important was why Washu had shown up in this place at this time, why Now? ───.
After all, Washu was a person who was on Jurai's side during the time of the Imperial Academy, that was when they were hostile towards Seiniwa. As expected, in the present day and age, the hostile relationship between Jurai and Seiniwa had diminished, and amongst those of Mitoto's generation, those sentiments towards jurai had almost completely disappeared. However, here she was now, in the middle of Seiniwa. where Mikumo was dying, He could not figure out what condolences she would have to give, or how she had gotten into a place where few people were allowed. But regardless, it was natural that anyone would be perplexed if there was a legendary philosopher who had been missing for five thousand years in front of them.
"How unpleasant, Who let that woman in here?"
Taima, who was finally recovering from his shocked state, remembered something important. That was the fact that this place was the most important place in Seiniwa. Naturally, It had highest level of security, and even government officials were unable to trespass into this place.
"... Ms. Mikami, you said you were "waiting for something", what was it?"
Mikami knew something he didn't - and that frustrated Taima. He stared at Mikami. Taima found that Mikami's actions very disrespectful and this only strengthened his confidence in receiving the position but. But the situation began to move beyond What Taima expected.
A door to the Mikumo's private room who was opened (tn:flooding the room with light) like the Gate of Celestial Rock Cave* and a woman who was Mikumo's secretary and nurse came out and said
"Hurry up, Washu Hakubi ... Come now, please come in."

Mikumo, who had been ailing for a long time, rarely attended official business, and so the communication of his intentions came through through his nurse. In other words,Her word was Mikumo's intention, and he was calling for Washu.
"What!?Wait a moment!WHY IS THIS WOMAN HERE AND WHO IS SHE!?"
"You petulant child, please here wait quietly, this will be over soon."
"!!?"


Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on December 30, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
Cool! Thanks!
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: antvasima on December 31, 2016, 05:56:53 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on December 31, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
Double updates  today and maye a small one tomorro but im going to be a bit busy it is newyears afterall

with these updates we are now a bit over 1/4th of the way done with this chapter's translation... i wish i could say the same of chapter 3... i hit a spot in chapter 3 where the autotranslators all fail to give me anything even remotely close to the meaning so i have to manualy translate every damn line so as you can imagine i am much more thrilled to pump this easy short chapter out.
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Y_Anthony_Who on December 31, 2016, 01:40:01 PM
HOLY SHIT! MIHOSHI MYSTERY! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

We're so fortunate that you do all this work!

So Taima is Mikumo's son...

Gonna go drinking with my friends tonight, but I'll be thinking of Tenchi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: spokethewind on December 31, 2016, 04:52:46 PM
Quote from: Fap_fapperson on December 31, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
Double updates  today and maye a small one tomorro but im going to be a bit busy it is newyears afterall

with these updates we are now a bit over 1/4th of the way done with this chapter's translation... i wish i could say the same of chapter 3... i hit a spot in chapter 3 where the autotranslators all fail to give me anything even remotely close to the meaning so i have to manualy translate every damn line so as you can imagine i am much more thrilled to pump this easy short chapter out.

omg these parts of the chapter translation are AMAZING!! thank you!!! i am so excited haha can't wait for more  :bravo:
Title: Re: GXP 11 - Washu & Kuramitsu encounter
Post by: Eff Efferson on January 01, 2017, 06:41:52 AM
and wit that update it is 50% done. yeap the chapter is that small. i like the later gxp books short chapters!