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Title: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 25, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
*Edit Finally got the picture up, now lets get his thread going for real.

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Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Dr.Soviet on April 25, 2013, 03:56:56 AM
Wonder if they went the "Wii Gimmick" Route. Would be very bad for the game industry in general if they did like them or hate them.
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: SimmyC on April 26, 2013, 03:10:57 AM
Well the Gimmicks worked for the Wii. Unfortunately for Nintendo though, it isn't working for the Wii U. 3DS gimmick was also a failure. People are getting a 3DS, but it has NOTHING to do with the 3D and everything to do, with what it should have been all along, the games.

Speaking of games, one thing of concern, at least for gamers, is how all the news about Xbox 720, at least the rumors and possible leaked information, is how MS is basically promoting every single aspect of the console...

Except the gaming.

It's like an all in one set-top box. Which I can understand. Market the console to not just people playing games, but streaming movies, DVR, etc. etc. But as a gamer, that's not stuff that would get me excited about the prospects of the 720.

Oh well. We'll
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 26, 2013, 04:03:07 AM
Reports have been that this has purposely been done because they want to save their "big guns" for E3. Basically we're expected to shit bricks from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: shades of blue on April 26, 2013, 11:30:53 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on April 26, 2013, 04:03:07 AM
Reports have been that this has purposely been done because they want to save their "big guns" for E3. Basically we're expected to shit bricks from what I've heard.

They sure as fuck better, cause at this point they've practically abandoned 360. This ongoing dry spell of 1st party titles is really not making MS look good and I think it's clear enough that they don't even care. If they did, they could at least pay to have some exclusives whipped up from 3rd parties like Sega. Worked with xbox1 after all.

Or finally MAKE Rare reboot some of their 8bit titles. Seriously, with all the hype Battletoads still carries and success Tecmo had rebooting Ninja Gaiden, a Battletoads reboot set to challenge the hardcorest of gamers should have happened years ago. What the hell was the point of buying Nintendo's leftovers if you're not going to pick through their back catalogue?! And I want my damn Ironsword. Bastards.

Rare Ltd. :emot-vd:

http://www.youtube.com/v/VbIJM1xAjNY
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: SimmyC on April 28, 2013, 08:44:00 PM
Didn't realize I didn't finish my thought in the last reply. Not that it mattered since all I would have said was "We'll see what MS comes up with at the reveal" but whatever. :P

And hopefully they are saving up the 'Big Guns" for E3. Because so far, they're doing a very successful job at not getting the gaming community excited.

And I feel sorry for Rare LTD. I had expected Microsoft to go full blazes with them when MS bought them. And instead... the last I saw of them was them making like Xbox Kinect stuff. And I thought wow,  from a huge can't do any wrong developer to that :neg:.
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 28, 2013, 10:06:11 PM
More info on it

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/25/next-xbox-functionality-pricing-reportedly-outed
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Ybloc on April 30, 2013, 12:23:32 PM
Quote from: shades of blue on April 26, 2013, 11:30:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/VbIJM1xAjNY

Nostalgia

Dam those 1/2 & 3/4 jumps
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 12:17:31 AM
Well, we finally get to see what Mircosoft has been hiding under the hood....

(http://b-i.forbesimg.com/erikkain/files/2013/04/xbox-720-reveal.png)

You can also watch on television through Gametrailers which will be on Spike TV.
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 02:39:11 AM
Just to add onto the Rumor Shades was mentioning on the chat earlier...

http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EFylAZlVpFTQfuAlpz.php
Title: Re: Xbox 720 Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 12:05:38 PM
IGN pre show is on

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/08/watch-the-xbox-reveal-event-live-on-ign
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
Officially called XBOX ONE
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 02:07:35 PM
So I would rate this conference a B+

The system looks fucking legit, just wish we had a better showcase of gaming. But Xbox has once again made it clear they are saving the big guns for E3. But 15 exclusives in the first year?! DAYUUUUMMM
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 02:21:42 PM
Some specs are already out on Wired

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one/
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on May 21, 2013, 06:20:09 PM
Well, the system itself looks pretty good (a plus against Sony so far before, well, Sony hasn't actually released what the PS4 looks like)... in a generic kind of way. Which is not bad. I mean it won't stand out against whatever else I have in front of the TV. Unlike say, game consoles of old that 'look like toys' (nothing against the Gamecube or the N64. But they certainly don't match anything else in front of my TV).

But looks (unless it's like hawt pink with polka dots. And even then...) isn't everything. It's what inside the system, and the games on it, that count. And, well, not being a total techie, I'm going to assume the tech side is  :iron:. I know it has a BD drive. So that's a plus. Other than that...  :huhm:

Game wise... eh. Has all the usual suspects. Call of Duty, Forza 5, EA games like Battlefield 4 and their sports games, Assassin's Creed 4... stuff that, well, besides being sequels, can't say I care for. Yes, they have their fans that will eat that stuff up, I'm not one of them. Only Quantum Break held any of my interest. And that's only because I thought Alan Wake was a pretty good, and well made game.

Kinect is... eh. I know it could be 'fun', but I prefer sitting on my ass, using a controller. And, not using my voice to command my dumbass AI companion on what to do. Bad enough they have a hard time following directions with the gamepad. Cursing them out when I have family around isn't going to help.

Now all the other stuff about the Xbox One...
Not backwards compatible? Oh well. It's a new trend in game consoles now. Whether that's a good or bad thing is becoming irrelevant. Since now everyone is doing it.

Now until I see it confirmed, this would go into the rumor pile. Not being able to play used games?  :milk:

[update]Supposedly there is going to be a way for gamers to trade and resell games ala Steam. More details later. Still, sounds like a slap in the face of say, Gamestop.

Skype group chats? Chating while playing other games? Um, okay? Since I rarely chat in game, not something I care too much for.

Smart Glass... eh whatever. It's cool and all. But as a 'gamer', probably won't wind up using it that much. Besides the fact I don't own say a MS tablet or a Windows 8 phone, etc.

The always online controversy that MS had to slap down. Well, from what I've read, it isn't completely unfounded. Yes, in theory you don't need to be always online to play on the Xbox One. But, MS 'lets the developers' determine if their games require always online. Either way, can't see this as a good thing IMO. Yes yes, I know we live in an 'connected' world, and my connection isn't too bad that I personally shouldn't complain. But like Simcity 2013, in the rare occasion the network does go down, if a game requires to be always online, I'd still be losing out.

Over all, despite my nice LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG write up... My feelings about it is meh. It feels like the Xbox One is trying to not be a gaming console, and instead, the all in one entertainment system for the living room. I get what MS is doing in trying to appeal to a bigger consumer base. But looking at this as a gamer, not a whole lot I could honestly say I'm excited about. Yeah, E3 E3 E3. But I'll reserve my opinion of the games shown at E3, during/after E3. Right now I'm focusing on the announcement.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on May 21, 2013, 08:22:55 PM
QuoteNot backwards compatible? Oh well. It's a new trend in game consoles now.

This one I don't get because the system is rumored to still be using a custom IBM processor and the GPU is still based on ATI/AMD. So with what little is known, it appears to still have a custom IBM PPC chip and AMD graphics powering it, making a wrapper much easier to create. I'd be willing to bet they probably got lazy when it was confirmed PS4 won't be backwards compatible because the hardware is radically different. Or they'll paid too close attention to how well XboxOriginals and PlayStation2HD titles are selling and thought all these suckers will buy the same shit over again.

QuoteNow until I see it confirmed, this would go into the rumor pile. Not being able to play used games?  :milk:

It's true and Sony's doing it too. Not that either really has a choice in the matter, when money grubbing 3rd party developers threaten to take their business elsewhere. In Sony's case they've public relations liars stated their own 1st party titles won't be locked down, but the option is there for developers to choose. Which means everything from EA, Ubisoft & Activision is guaranteed to be locked down. In fact the DS4 will play a part in enabling those locked down titles to play on your friend's system & hauling along your gamertag along with you, as it will store a copy of your profile & the games registered to your system. And in Microsoft's case there doesn't seem to be a lot of information about how they're handling it yet.

QuoteSmart Glass... eh whatever. It's cool and all. But as a 'gamer', probably won't wind up using it that much. Besides the fact I don't own say a MS tablet or a Windows 8 phone, etc.

Smart Glass is available for Anderoid and iOS. virtually any smart phone & tablet out there can run Smart Glass.

QuoteMy feelings about it is meh. It feels like the Xbox One is trying to not be a gaming console, and instead, the all in one entertainment system for the living room.

Yeah it's really just a glorified Media Center Edition PC, without the loading time. Or to look at it another way, a product that will kick the shit out of AppleTV and play video games. And I don't blame MS for doing so. They're making good money off their multimedia services and they've been doing it longer than Apple has. XboxOne is a chance to really push their online multimedia market into the hands of people previously overlooked. Someone has to think of all the money to be made off services like Vudu, Hulu, Netflix, Zune, iTunes, etc and go I want a piece of that.

QuoteStill, sounds like a slap in the face of say, Gamestop.

Fuck Gamestop. They offer you dick for your trade-ins and resell them for 10% less, which is exactly why we've got this whole used games shenanigans going on to begin with. Secondly GS means nothing to any of the big 3 because their new game sales numbers pale in comparison to superstore chains like Walmart. Lastly GS saw this all coming several months ago. It's the reason why they're getting into the retro gaming business and now selling cellular contracts.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 09:03:03 PM
The entire reveal show is up for those who are interested or missed it

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/21/ign-live-presents-the-next-xbox-reveal?
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2013, 09:39:55 PM
Compared to the 360 controller

(http://assets1.ignimgs.com/2013/05/22/img6866jpg-5ea6bc_610w.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 22, 2013, 12:48:22 PM
Unless you've been living under a rock, you're sure to know that the Xbox reveal has caused waves of question and confusion. Cnet sits down with one of the program managers of Xbox to try and finally get some answers.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57585620-75/microsoft-talks-xbox-one-naming-privacy-and-more-q-a/
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on May 22, 2013, 01:56:05 PM
I heard the cheering during the presentation... that wasn't the audience. Which means it was probably pre-recorded.

And the guy in the interview did NOT clear up what's going on with used games. Only that it supports used games.

Well, at least they confirmed that if I wanted to, I can use my new Galaxy S4 (my old dumb phone died. Forced me to get a new one. Great... except it killed my tax refund money I was hoping on using for a 3DS) with that Smart Glass thing.

The Kinect has to be on all the time... that's even worse than I thought. I obviously missed that part (honestly didn't watch the presentation. Just news articles). At least my privacy is assured if I want to.  :duck:

With so much confusion going on, this was NOT a great presentation from Microsoft at all. Being a set top box might get my brother more excited since he's not much of a gamer nowadays. But that puts MS in a position to, not complete with Sony and Nintendo directly, but a market of other set top boxes in that case. The gaming community on the other hand... MS should have been giving gamers excited about the prospects of the Xbox One. Not go WTF is this? There was a reason MS's stock went down and Sony's and Nintendo's went up as the day went on.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: WarOmnimon on May 22, 2013, 03:12:08 PM
After reading about the xBox ONE, the major thing that turned me off from even buying the darn thing was the required once a day online verification thing.  I buy most of my games for current systems new anyway, so the "no used games" thing doesn't really bother me.

However, what happens when there's a power outage or ISP maintenance that lasts for more than a day in your area?  Then you're pretty much SOL from using the xBox ONE, and I'm not about to fall victim to that happening to me.  :dogout:

In short, the PS4 and Wii U get my money.  xBox ONE does not.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 22, 2013, 06:07:23 PM
A lot of the issues other people have are really no issues for me. I'm a pretty heavy gamer, but I have other hobbies that the One will also handle. Being a big Sports guy, this will really help since checking out stats during a game can be important. And with my Surround Sound system, not having to switch outputs all the time when going from Xbox to Television will be very nice.

Agree with WarOmnimon about the Used games. I definitely have some, but majority are my games are fresh new bought copies. When I'm looking for games, I'll tend to buy cheaper new versions online, like Amazon. If I just have to save money, I just wait til the game goes on sale. The only time this could be a problem is when I'm borrowing a game from my friend. But for me, I tend to play WITH my friends, so for the most part, both of us will have to have our own copy anyway, so it won't be that much of a difference compared to how I buy games now.

As far as the Always connected thing, from what I gathered after countless clarifications, the system works on a 24 hour grace period. This means that you have 24 hours from the last moment you've played in order to reconnect to the internet, and once you do that required connection, you can go back offline again until the next 24 our "check-up" session is needed. Personally this is a non issue for me since I'm always connected to the internet one way or another everyday already. As far as emergencies like a power outage or ISP issues, a 24 hour grace period is definitely a reasonable amount of time to get your stuff together IMO, but even then a non internet issue that takes longer than that is not the normal but the exception. I just have a way more of chance having internet compared to not having it.

Don't really get all the fuse about the system doing more than playing games. Yea you want to be caring about the gamer, but you just have to accept reality. This is 2013, we are in a new digital age, and people who were once not into this world are starting to come in. From a business perspective, it would be retarded to ignore the simple majority just to adhere to the hardcore minority. Those mother's and fathers who want a tv watching system will be the same ones who can easily put in money compared to the hardcore young adult gamer who is no where near as financially stable most of the time. For all the Flak MS has gotten, I can guarantee we'll probably see Sony pull the same tactics.

Yea you could become a PC gamer, but PC gamers just aren't what's considered cool (Sorry adam lol).
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on May 22, 2013, 06:55:29 PM
The issue with the Xbox One doing 'more' than gaming... isn't really the issue. I mean I can watch movies on my Xbox One? I can do that with my 360 already. Check NFL stuff? Okay. I don't mind that. In fact, I think it is cool.

The reason why I bring it up is that, I'm looking at this as a gamer since it is supposed to also be a gaming console. Yes, I understand, and Microsoft should, make the Xbox One be as 'mass marketable' as possible since they are a business that wants the doush. It shouldn't 'just' be a gaming console. Yes, I have other hobbies besides gaming. Heck, nowadays I play on the PC more anyways. No longer really a console gamer to be honest. But my criticism is coming from the gaming side of things. They didn't show anything that would get the gaming side, the side that might go "Hmm. All those awesome games, maybe I'll go back to console gaming"... they didn't do that. You could say E3 all you want, but you would think they could have shown some amazing exclusives now, and then go "E3 will only be better" to get the gaming side of me excited.

After all, the people attending the conference weren't simply techie media people. They were gaming media. You'd think they would have at least put the games first given the audience. Save all the other multimedia stuff later.

The used games stuff doesn't affect me most of the time since I rarely get used game for my console gaming. BUT, there are times when I do borrow/receive as gifts, a game that my brother or cousin gives me. Especially when Capcom goes "Street Fighter, Super Street Fighter, Super Duper Street Fighter", and my cousin buys into all that and well, has an extra copy to get rid of. That would be the time where I might have an issue. But since that is rare... it's more of a principle of the matter. Why should it be like this? Because MS said so? Is MS simply kowtowing to the major publishers? Same guys that are now trying to push microtransactions on difficulty now (Metro: Last Light)?

[edit]BTW, it's been confirmed. There will be a FEE to play used games. Sometimes as much as a full price of a new game.

Heck, the Internet connection thing 'itself' isn't a problem for me. Since yes, like a lot of people, my Internet connection is fairly stable, and I'm online almost always anyway. Once again, for me, it's more of the principle of the matter. Why does the One NEED to he verified every 24 hours? Steam doesn't do that. And Steam, while I like it better than certain other services, is still DRM. But one that doesn't force me to be online especially when I'm not playing.

Not to mention, right now I keep my 360 and PS3 off to save energy since I rarely use them nowadays. Someone has to pay the energy bills. Not going to fly if I have to keep turning it on to make sure it's verified.

Yes, I know there are realities in the gaming industry we have to accept. No backwards compatibility for starters. And yes, I'm sure there are stuff MS is doing that Sony AND Nintendo might go "Hmm. We should do that too". But that doesn't make it right. After all, we now live in the world of DLCs and microtransactions. I accept that. Heck, I don't mind certain DLCs and so forth. But when a company is going so far as removing difficulty and charge $5 for those that didn't preorder? A line has be drawn somewhere.  :siren: :siren: :siren:
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 23, 2013, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: SimmyC on May 22, 2013, 06:55:29 PM
You could say E3 all you want, but you would think they could have shown some amazing exclusives now, and then go "E3 will only be better" to get the gaming side of me excited.
It never does though, and by now I'm sure Xbox and even Sony knows this. Time and time again, we get a tease of a certain exclusive, people get their hopes up and then by the time E3 comes around, it doesn't live up to people's overhyped expectations. I'd bet MS and Sony have learned their lesson by now and learned you have a better chance wowing the gamers by a E3 reveal compared to a E3 explanation.

Quote from: SimmyC on May 22, 2013, 06:55:29 PMAfter all, the people attending the conference weren't simply techie media people. They were gaming media. You'd think they would have at least put the games first given the audience. Save all the other multimedia stuff later.
Word online is that MS repeatedly stated this focus would be on the console and not the games. So if this is true and people were warned ahead of time and still expected same, you reap what you sow I guess.

Quote from: SimmyC on May 22, 2013, 06:55:29 PMThe used games stuff doesn't affect me most of the time since I rarely get used game for my console gaming. BUT, there are times when I do borrow/receive as gifts, a game that my brother or cousin gives me. Especially when Capcom goes "Street Fighter, Super Street Fighter, Super Duper Street Fighter", and my cousin buys into all that and well, has an extra copy to get rid of. That would be the time where I might have an issue. But since that is rare... it's more of a principle of the matter. Why should it be like this? Because MS said so? Is MS simply kowtowing to the major publishers? Same guys that are now trying to push microtransactions on difficulty now (Metro: Last Light)?

[edit]BTW, it's been confirmed. There will be a FEE to play used games. Sometimes as much as a full price of a new game.
I think many are giving MS and Sony too much credit when the hidden truth is that the game developers are a lot more say so than what people want to believe. All MS and Sony are doing is trying to appease them, even if it means we get shafted. Notice not one developer has come out and flat out stated disappointment in the new USED GAME FEE policy, cause they fucking love it and you can bet money they will get a piece of that pie.


Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on May 23, 2013, 11:59:23 PM
QuoteWord online is that MS repeatedly stated this focus would be on the console and not the games. So if this is true and people were warned ahead of time and still expected same, you reap what you sow I guess.
While it is true that MS (including 'leaks') probably didn't want to focus on the games since, well, they are looking beyond gamers and see a potential market there, there is also a thing called brand management. Microsoft, up to this point, has made Xbox all about gaming. If the first thing a presentation about the console isn't about the gaming aspect, but the TV aspect... why call it an Xbox then?

I think people might have been more forgiving if all they did was talk about the specs. The reason why things there is so much rage is, well, mentioned it already. They focused on the TV aspect of it. Again, if this was called Windows 8 Entertainment system, people would have been more forgiving But they slapped their gaming brand on it (Xbox) instead.

Also, to add that Kinect will always be on no matter what.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5fq8fYVahE Here is an example where things could go very wrong with it. And this is the old Kinect. At least you could turn it off.

And the last point... I'll just repeat what I said.

I'll just repeat what I said before.
QuoteAnd yes, I'm sure there are stuff MS is doing that Sony AND Nintendo might go "Hmm. We should do that too". But that doesn't make it right. After all, we now live in the world of DLCs and microtransactions. I accept that. Heck, I don't mind certain DLCs and so forth. But when a company is going so far as removing difficulty and charge $5 for those that didn't preorder? A line has be drawn somewhere.
This is my feeling on the industry in general and NOT just what MS (or what the publishers are making MS if that's the case) is doing. No where did I say that game publishers were innocent. In fact, they are very much to blame to the things I find bullshit in the game industry today. I know they would cum buckets IF the concept of no used games ever becomes a reality. After all, they are already trying to shove crap at us to see how much they can get away with it before there is a consumer revolt (DRM, Day One DLCs, Online Passes, Diablo 3 launch/auction debacle, Simcity 2013 always online disaster). I just do not see it as a good thing and I CERTAINLY won't accept it simply because 'it's the reality we live in today'. Already EA is reversing course with the Online Passes. No reason why certain other practices the big publishers are trying to nickle and dime us to death if given incentive (like, people stop supporting it with their $$$).
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 31, 2013, 09:52:28 PM
I knew it...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/31/microsoft-wont-talk-tv-at-e3

Now the extra stuff is out of the way, E3 will focus on the games so the hardcore gamers don't feel left out. Though I don't understand the fuss since we know E3 is the day preset for us gamers only anyway. The System reveal was more of a mass-marketed thing.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 01, 2013, 03:25:39 PM
Because it was the system reveal and people expected talks about the game aspect and not TV.

But E3...

First, if Microsoft wanted to talk up the mass marketing of the system at the reveal, and save all the gaming aspect at E3, they really should have emphasized it. And no, rumors and leaks do NOT count as emphasizing it. If anything, what Microsoft FAILED to do before the run-up of the reveal, AND early in the presentation was say "Look, we know it's a gaming system. But to you hardcore gamers, wait to E3. Because for everyone else, here is the awesome all in one entertainment system!"

They didn't do it in the presentation. And they gave no indication that was the case when they announced the reveal date. Could have saved themselves a lot of grief over that. But didn't.

And I'm not even pointing out the stuff that they do Kinect (see what I did there?  Ahahah.. hahah...  :sotw: ) to gaming was, less than satisfactory towards that end.

Now in, scary to hear that from me, XD, but some defense of MS on the issue of used games.

My thinking has 'evolved' somewhat only when the issue of Gamestop is brought up. While I feel, and still feel, the big publishers are greedy bastards that are doing a lot of stuff that hurt the consumers, the issue with a company like Gamestop is that, when they resell a used game, the game publishers (and in turn, the developers) don't get a dime of that money. So what MS is, at least attempting to do, is at least be fair to those evil big publishers and have them have a cut of the money, taking it out of the hands of equally evil game resellers like Gamestop.

That said though, doesn't mean I fully support it. Since it still means like, let's say my cousin fell for Capcom's multiple versions of the same game situation (it's why I support expansion packs/DLCs more. Since Capcom seems to like forcing people to buy the game over again if they decide to add content. Not always. But with stuff like Street Fighter...). Assuming he bought each version new, he now can't simply gift me the older version if MS's way of 'sticking it to Gamestop' goes through. Certainly not a positive for the consumer in my case.

At least with Steam (which people like to use as an example), you could trade games with it. Disappears on your account, appears on the person that you traded with.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 01, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
Quote from: SimmyC on June 01, 2013, 03:25:39 PM
Because it was the system reveal and people expected talks about the game aspect and not TV.

But E3...

First, if Microsoft wanted to talk up the mass marketing of the system at the reveal, and save all the gaming aspect at E3, they really should have emphasized it. And no, rumors and leaks do NOT count as emphasizing it. If anything, what Microsoft FAILED to do before the run-up of the reveal, AND early in the presentation was say "Look, we know it's a gaming system. But to you hardcore gamers, wait to E3. Because for everyone else, here is the awesome all in one entertainment system!"
They did do that
http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/microsoft-will-unveil-new-xbox-over-two-events-not-one-6C9993958

I remember seeing something on another news site, but that's where the "Xbox is saving the big guns" talk came from, actual news sources. But places like IGN would rather leave this stuff out for more fan drama and views.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 02, 2013, 12:48:42 AM
From the article. Emphasis added by me.
Quote"The best way I can describe it is: We're really going to tell one story across two events," he added. "So we're going to start on the 21st [of May]; and really that's about revealing the next Xbox platform and our vision for the future of games, the future of entertainment."
This... isn't making things clear. Now, let's assume journalist are dumbasses. :D The assumption is STILL a gaming system. NOT an all in one set top box. When they hit you with TV, TV, TV... journalist are going to write about that.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 02, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
It's probably just because of personal taste...As a heavy TV watcher, a lot of Xbox One's new features are very handy. Hell, being able to finally not have to keep switching inputs all the time is alone a great feature for me.

All I left out from that conference is how Xbox One will make my life a whole lot easier, but then again, from everything they covered...TV, Sports and COD, I'm a fan of all 3. I just didn't put that much care in game reveals since I know E3 has delivered before, no reason it won't again.
Sony did mention games in their reveal, but those games don't really interest me. Kinda meh about Last of Us and Diablo 3 isn't a big deal since Adam is pimping me out to get used to the PC version.
Now if we get to E3 and we see a lack of games, then I'll be pissed. But I have more of a "just be patient" approach, especially since E3 is right around the corner.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 03, 2013, 01:15:21 AM
True. Personal taste is probably a big part of it. I haven't watched any TV recently. All the anime I'm watching for example, I watch sitting in front of my computer. Sports? While I am a 'casual' fan of it, I rarely watch it on TV. Last game I saw on TV was the Super Bowl. If it wasn't for the fact this computer lacks a Blu-Ray player, I might have no need for a TV here. This means that inevitably, the aspect I would be focused on is the gaming.

And E3... the reason why I tend to dismiss E3 in general (not just Xbone's expected announcements. Which should be the highlight of this E3. But E3 announcements in general) is that... IMO at least, recent E3s weren't all that great. It seems like a lot of the big games announced at E3, from a personal standpoint, I just didn't care for. Especially since it seems more developers are no longer saving those 'big' game announcements for E3 nowadays.

With all that said, it was clear who MS wanted to appeal to. Besides Tenchi Ryu :P, my brother as well who isn't much of a gamer nowadays, and uses his Xbox 360 for, many of the reasons why MS did what they did. Streaming shows and movies, music, etc. The 'dudebros' as I've seen that word thrown around the web. The people that watch TV, watch sports, and play MANLY games like COD. Again, I get what MS was attempting to do. It's just, it was still IMO, a major miscalculation in terms of PR.

And once again, setting the above aside, the thing that turns me off isn't the used game issue, but the needing to connect every 24 hours aspect, and Kinect 2.0. Online thing, eh. It's more principle than something that adversely affect me most of the time. Just the idea that my gaming could suddenly stop because my network annoys me. I was never a fan of voice command since I'm not much of a talker. Certainly don't like the idea of talking to my system "Xbox Go Home". And maybe I'm old fashion, but I prefer using a controller to do things. Yes I know, Xbone has that option. But what it doesn't have the option of? Turning the new Kinect OFF. Especially since some of the features make it sound like it's always watching you. Monitoring your heart rate? Seeing how many people are in the room? Really? No, I don't believe in the conspiracy kooks that see this as MS going 1984 on us. Still, it is unsettling that it's a feature that you cannot turn off all the same.

*BTW, in case you're wondering, I am NOT excited about any of the 'new' generation at all. Not Xbone, not PS4, certainly not the Wii U. Seems like in the near future at least, I'll be sticking to my PC for my gaming, and 'TV' entertainment as well.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 04, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
A unconfirmed leak has found it way on the internet

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8021/1370272545080.jpg)

Also see this list floating around

    Halo 5
    Killer Instinct
    Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty Land
    Forza Motorsport 5
    Quantum Break
    Halo: Spartan Assault
    Ryse
    Fable IV
    Crackdown 3
    Fortnine
    Dead Rising 3
    Call of Duty: Ghosts
    Battlefield 4
    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    Dying Light
    Prey 2
    Homefront 2
    Beyond Good & Evil 2
    Mirror's Edge 2
    Rainbow 6: Patriots
    Brother in Arms: Furious Four
    League of Legends

THIS IS ALL NOT CONFIRMED
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 06, 2013, 06:58:36 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/06/microsoft-details-xbox-one-used-games-always-online
QuoteAs explained by Microsoft, "while a persistent connection is not required, Xbox One is designed to verify if system, application or game updates are needed and to see if you have acquired new games, or resold, traded in, or given your game to a friend. Games that are designed to take advantage of the cloud may require a connection."
Seems to confirm the reason why it is always mostly online is to make sure you don't do anything that MS didn't intend for you to do. Anti-piracy DRM stuff. We can have a debate about DRM but eh. I'm tired at the moment (have work in a few hours. :P) don't feel like getting into a long rant about it.
QuoteOffline gaming is not possible after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and enjoy Blu-ray and DVD movies."
Welp... time for gamers to calm down now. Gaming might not be possible if a freak accident takes down your Internet. But at least you can watch TV. :fuck:
QuoteThere are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once."
On one hand, at least Microsoft is making it clearer. Certainly not the PR disaster they initially came out with. However... still limits my ability to 'gift' a game if, for example, I just recently friended someone. Or, what if I got gifted a game, decided 'meh' and wanted to gift it to someone else. Since it was already a gift, sounds like a fee will be applied for the other person to get it.
QuoteMicrosoft stresses that "you are in control of what Kinect can see and hear. By design, you will determine how responsive and personalized your Xbox One is to you and your family during setup.
QuoteYour personal data will never be available to anyone outside of your console, Microsoft stressed. "You can play games or enjoy applications that use data, such as videos, photos, facial expressions, heart rate and more, but this data will not leave your Xbox One without your explicit permission."
Well that's a relief. As long as I don't do something stupid like agree to certain terms and conditions, don't have to worry about privacy issues (unless of course, they try to trick you with said terms and conditions like companies usually do. Like Sony explicitly stating you can't join a class action lawsuit when using PSN). And at least I can turn off 'functions' of Kinect 2.0. Even if I'm forced to keep it on ALL the time, at least no one can troll and scream XBOX OFF in a game chat.

But eh. Personal preference and all. Not caring much about all the awesome TV effects, the above news is much more relevant to me. And still, nothing that would make me want Xbone. If anything, I'm less incline because of it.

That being said, looking at the list of rumored games, well, at least it appears MS is finally doing something with their Rare products. It's like they are finally realized that there could be potential gems in their holdings that they acquired all that time ago. Not that I was ever able to play Rare games when they ruled the world, but eh. As long as MS doesn't fuck it up, can only be a good thing right?

If any game on that list makes me somewhat excited, it would be Mirror's Edge 2. Not that Mirror's Edge 1 was great (had it's issues). But I liked it because it was somewhat different than your standard FPS. Not to mention I love the art style. Though I doubt this is an Xbone exclusive game (if it is, a time limited one at most). And since I'm poor as fuck, certainly no reason for me to get the Xbone when I'd probably wouldn't buy the game at launch anyway. Still, it's one of the games I'm hoping to see become reality.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Dr.Soviet on June 06, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
    Halo 5
    Killer Instinct
    Banjo-Kazooie: Grunty Land
    Forza Motorsport 5
    Quantum Break ???
    Halo: Spartan Assault
    Ryse ???
    Fable IV
   
    Crackdown 3
    Fortnine
    Dead Rising 3
    Call of Duty: Ghosts
    Battlefield 4
    The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
    Dying Light
    Prey 2
    Homefront 2
    Beyond Good & Evil 2
    Mirror's Edge 2
    Rainbow 6: Patriots
    Brother in Arms: Furious Four
    League of Legends


Off the top of my head saying these are real. The ones I didn't cross off are the only console exclusives.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 07, 2013, 12:31:37 AM
The funny part is that with all this, the pressure has now shifted to Sony. Even though MS is looking like the evil grandparents forcing you to eat spinach, Sony's quiet nature has started to worry people, specifically with XBOX's used games policies now out. Most people KNOW that many 3rd party developers are gonna go with this DRM and used game fee train, meaning unless its a Sony exclusive, you're getting raped too...

Well, I've already started to get my PC gamer skills up, might as well PREPARE. I'll probably still get the XBOX one to play the usual COD and NBA 2K with my friends and stuff, but my console to PC game collection will be a LOT more balanced now.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 07, 2013, 04:09:20 PM
While it is true that Sony has been keeping mostly quiet (letting the shitstorm hit MS first). Sony's 'official' statement has always been, 'we don't have DRM. But if a publisher does it... well we can't stop that~" In other words, Sony is going to place all the blame on the publishers if DRM appears. And truth be told, there is nothing that would stop EA from doing that now. In fact, the online pass and those codes you get (something that Gamestop could fuck you over with because you know, they don't really sell 'new' games) can be seen as a form as a DRM. After all, sure you can get a 'used' game at Gamestop, but (even though EA is getting rid of the Online Pass. Doesn't mean they couldn't come out with something else), a unique code is needed. if it is missing or already used, they would have to get a new one from the game publisher.

It's just that Sony isn't mandating it. They're not forcing the game companies to do it.

MS is also trying to say 'it's the publishers doing it' as well. The problem with this excuse for MS? They're building the infrastructure for it. You can't use the excuse that it's all the publishers fault, when all of these restrictions are being placed on it are built into the system.

Also, Sony's official stance is that the PS4 won't always be online. A significant difference than the Xbone's once every 24 hours (or once every hour if you're using someone else's Xbone) stance.

Now if the above has changed, it would be a sign that Sony is LYING up to this point. And really, if they did decide to do this, it WOULD be just as suicidal to themselves as I feel it is to MS. I mean we are already seeing some backtracking on MS part. Oh, renting games? Well it won't be a launch but, we're looking into it. That tells me that they didn't even consider it before their big reveal, and then they saw the PR disaster that occurred and backtracked with it.

Now yes, I agree with the view that the 3rd party developers (note, this doesn't necessarily include Indies. Which is another strike against MS since any Indie developer HAS to either go through a big publisher or MS to be on the Xbone) love what MS is doing because they see $$$ in their eyes. I mean NO ONE thinks that MS is 'evil alone' here. But the used fee train only works if Xbone is successful. If there is an active push to NOT get an Xbone because of what they are doing, would significantly slow, if not, stop that train.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 13, 2013, 05:24:25 PM
Xbox Family share is fucking huge, and could really give MS a boost in PR. Basically this is how it goes.

You get 10 Family members, these family members don't have to be actual family though. With these 10 people, you have access to their entire gaming library, the only catch is that you can't play it if they're actually playing it, which in turn is exactly how borrowing video games is in real life. So while this might not be the best for games like Call of Duty where you want to play together, this is absolutely fantastic for games that are single player. I don't even think Steam does this yet....

Let's say I have Adam in my family members list. I went to the store the other day and bought the new Final Fantasy while he went to the store last week and bought the new WatchDogs.

Whenever I'm not playing Final Fantasy, he can play it, Vice versa for me being able to play his WatchDogs. And if you have 10 people, those 10 people can literally rotate the same game, you could make like a sharing group where each person gets the game for a week, then the next person, then the next. So those 10 people can pitch in 10 bucks to make 100, buy the game, and effectively share it.

That's pretty fucking awesome. Like a video game car pool.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 13, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
Scratch that, even better.
QuoteWith these 10 people, you have access to their entire gaming library, the only catch is that you can't play it if they're actually playing it
Actually, I'm being told that the person who originally BUYS the game has access ALWAYS, even if someone else is playing. Those other 9 are the ones who will have to share. So if Adam bought the game, I can play and he can, but Simmy would have to wait until I'm not playing it.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 13, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
Seems to have gotten NeoGAF's attention as well.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=586971
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 13, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/Bgamer90/ScreenShot060_zpse40f3ea8.png)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on June 13, 2013, 09:02:17 PM
I was thinking about it and Microsoft's used games policy actually has some retailer & consumer advantages. The way I see it, what MS did was create a standard, that will actually make it easier for used game stores to handle dealing with game crippling dlc & online features. Because prior to this in order to add disabled features they had to buy codes from the developer, like Gamestop did with the Batman Arkham City Catwoman DLC codes. Now they won't have to order codes in bulk, as the codes are reset along with the ownership license. In the future I'd expect to see barcodes next to those activation passwords, for painless retailer entry.

And of course this was all while listening to what the bitchy 3rd party developers wanted; a piece of every used game sale and taking a piece for their self too. None of which is your problem, at least not when Gamestop gives you jackshit for your new release used games, then flips them for 10% off the price of a new copy. In fact because GS will no longer have to buy codes the price of your trade-ins may actually go up... Thou I doubt it.

The only real problem with their used game policy is the restrictions placed on selling/trading your games to friends. Hopefully they'll catch enough heat to revise that before the system launches. On the plus side, from the sounds of things, the full game license transfers with ownership even between consumers.

This means you too you do not need to buy new exclusive dlc codes & online pass codes to fully enjoy a game like Mass Effect 3, if you were 'given' a copy from a friend. That in itself is a huge win for consumers. Plus games like Mass Effect 3 would likely drop the whole online pass & new game exclusive DLC bullshit because they'll be getting paid for used game sales, like they wanted and that was the whole point of those 'features' to begin with.

But, as said, restricting ownership transfers to people on your friends list and a single license transfer really does blow chunks. And I would not doubt this is part of Microsoft's strategy to further socialize the whole system experience. After all, what better way to make you friend every annoyance you know, than being able to part with your old junk? Sneaky bastards.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 14, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
So what have we learned? MS's PR suck donkey dick

http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions

Quote>The thing is we suck at telling the story. The whole point of the DRM switch from disc based to cloud based is to kill disc swapping, scratched discs, bringing discs to friends house, trade-ins for shit value with nothign going back to developers, and high game costs. If you want games cheaper then 59.99, you have to limit used games somehow. Steam's model requires a limited used game model.

    >The thing is, the DRM is really really similar to steam... You can login anywhere and play your games, anyone in your house can play with the family xbox. The only diff is steam you have to sign in before playing, and Xbox does it automatically at night for you (once per 24 hours)

    >It's a long tail strategy, just like steam. Steam had it's growing pains at the beginning with all it's drm shit as well. [...] For digital downloads steam had no real competition at the time, they were competing against boxed sales. At the time people were pretty irate about steam, (on 4chan too...) It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted shit.

    >Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.

    >Competition is the best man, it helps drive both to new heights. See technology from the Cold War. If we had no USSR, we'd be way worse off today. TLDR: Bring it on Steam :)

    2/4

    >Yeah we passed that around the office at Xbox. Most of us were like "Well played Sony, Well played". That being said they are just riding the hype train of ZOMG THEY ARE TRYING TO FUCK US FOR NO REASON. Without actually thinking about how convienent it would be for the majority of the time to not find that disc your brother didn't put back... [...] just simpleminded people not seeing the bigger picture. Some PS4 viral team made them all "U TOOK R DISCS" and they hiveminded.

    >Everyone and their mother complains about how gamestop fucks them on their trade ins, getting 5$ for their used games. We come in trying to find a way to take money out of gamestop, and put some in developers and get you possibly cheaper games and everyone bitches at MS. Well, if you want the @#$@ing from Gamestop, go play PS4.

    >The goal is to move to digital downloads, but Gamestop, Walmart, Target, Amazon are KIND OF FUCKING ENTRENCHED in the industry. They have a lot of power, and the shift has to be gradual. Long term goal is steam for consoles. [...] If you always want to stay with what you have, then keep current consoles, or a PS4. We're TRYING to move the industry forwards towards digital distribution... it'sa bumpy road

    >Publishers have enourmous power. Microsoft is trying to balance between consumer delight, and publisher wishes. If we cave to far in either direction you have a non-starting product. WiiU goes too far to consumer, you have no 3rd party support to shake a stick at. PS4 is status-quo. XB1 is trying to push some things, at the expense of others. We have a vision, we'll see if it works in the coming years

    >Living room transformation. We want to own the living room. Every living room TV with an XBox on input one. It's the thing that gives the signal to your TV, everything is secondary. The future, where games, TV, internet telephony, all that shit happens magically on some huge ass screen with hand / voice gestures... That's our goal.


    3/4

    >Google TV + PS4 + Minority report level gestures, that combined with a sick second screen experience (which is really hot for TV, I know I know.. tv tv tv tv tv... but it's fucking sick when you have it). Games will be the same, there are more exclusives to MS then PS atm, and Kinect 2 makes Kinect 1 look like a childs toy.

    >By default it's on, listening for "Xbox On". You can turn it off tho, and turn the console like OFF off. OFF off is required for Germany / other countries that require it (no vampire appliances) [...] It has to be plugged in for the console to post. You can turn off everything it does from the settings. Think of it like airplane mode for the iPhone. You can't just unplug the cellular radio, but you can turn it off.

    >Instead of 10mins, is 24hrs for your console, and 1 or 2 at a friends house. Really the majority of people have a speck of internet at least once a day. And if you don't. Don't buy an Xbox 1. Just like if you didn't have a broadband connection don't get Live, and if you don't have an HDTV the 360 isn't that great for you either. New tech, new req. This allows us to do cool shit when we can assume things like you have a kinect, you have internet, etc.

    >Current plan is basically you're fucked after 24 hours. Yeah... I know. Kind of sucks. I believe they will probably revist the time period and / or find a diff way to "call in" to ensure you haven't sold your license to gamestop or something... but there is no plan YET. I'm hoping the change it, but I don't work on that so I don't have much influence there /sigh

    >If the power goes out you ain't playing shit. I'm assuming you mean the internet goes out but you have power for TV and Xbox. Yes, You're fucked for single player games. Again, that's the PoR (Plan of record), but I expect it to change after the e3 clusterfuck

    >What fee? There is no fee to play your games at your friends house. Never has, never will. Even x360 digital downloads could do that.


    4/4

    >The cloud capabilities is the shit they like the most. We basically made a huge cloud compute shit and made it free. What people are doing with it is kind of cool. THe original intention was to get all the Multiplayer servers not requiring 3rd party costs (Like EA shutting down game servers to cut costs), as well as taking all the games that servers hosted by the clients (Halo, etc), and have all that compute done in the cloud allowing more CPU cycles for gameplay. That will really expand what developers can do. Anything that doesn't need per frame calculation and can handle 100ms delays can be shifted to the cloud. That's huge.

    >SmartGlass + IE is going to be pretty freaking sweet. 1 finger cursor, 2 finger direct manip. Basically if you think of a laptop trackpad where your phone/ slate is the trackpad and the monitor is your TV... it's that. The tech is there, just needs to be applied. There is some really cool shit going on with Petra + controllers that pairs people with controllers. So if person with controller two trades controlers with controller 1, their profiles magically switch. It's sick. What does this matter? Now if you lean left/right it knows which person is leaning, even if 4 people are all int he same room. It's awesome.

    >New service using Azure for cloud compute. Allows developers to not use clients for hosting multiplayer servers, or other tasks that do not require per frame calcuations. It's pretty sweet.

    >Honestly, if you care about anything other then pure games AT ALL. Xbox 1 > PS4. If all you do is play games, and nothing else, PS4.

    This was all from the Microsoft engineer that was on /b/ last night.

    >It's not worth my time to prove it, or risk my Job. I work in Studio A, 40th ave in Redmond, Wa. The thai place in the studio cafeteria has double punch wednesdays. Go ahead and call them and verify if you want.

Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Dr.Soviet on June 14, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on June 14, 2013, 05:10:43 PM
So what have we learned? MS's PR suck donkey dick

http://www.neowin.net/news/anonymous-xbox-engineer-explains-drm-and-microsofts-xbox-one-intentions

Quote
Corporate Shilling

Oh wow

(http://i.imgur.com/s5UXqpX.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 15, 2013, 02:37:14 AM
 :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn: :damn:
(http://i.imgur.com/fWpJY1n.jpg)

Also it seems the game sharing will not be too restricted

https://mobile.twitter.com/nowak911/status/345297685743534080
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 16, 2013, 12:39:54 AM
You make a LOT more people happy giving actual explanation compared to statements like "Well if you can't get it, get back broke muthaphucka".

http://www.wpcentral.com/lets-talk-xbox-drm
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on June 19, 2013, 07:04:39 PM
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57590134-75/microsoft-pulls-a-180-reverses-xbox-one-always-on-drm-and-used-games-policy/ Can we say...
(http://i.imgur.com/JZOCnud.png)
Now if they get rid of the always on Kinect 2.0, Xbox One has a chance.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 19, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
And with this, I'm done with Xbox. Thanks to people scared of the future and scared of change, the Xbox has done nothing but become a PS4 copy, basically a 400 dollar video card upgrade that offers nothing new or innovative. Anything to feed the sheep I guess. Good luck continuing to get screwed by GameStop, having to worry about scratched and broken disc, and now having to beg my friend to hurry and give me my disc back.

So many wonderful things that was gonna be offered, down the drain all cause people still can't let go of physical disc and their false belief in "game ownership". It's time I do what I should have done a long time ago....

PC Master Race, I'm coming
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tensami on June 21, 2013, 10:15:00 AM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on June 19, 2013, 07:42:16 PM
Thanks to people scared of the future and scared of change

You're welcome ( ´・‿-) ~ ♥
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 04, 2013, 09:26:09 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18z4968vyiwgcpng/ku-bigpic.png)

                             IN 13 COUNTRIES
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 05, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/XmD0vPOd5Rk

Add NBA and I just might become your whore...
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on September 07, 2013, 11:10:50 AM
From a marketing standpoint, I'd say they just kicked a field goal with that one. But they really need to rethink their online service plans, after a commercial like that. Or there's going to be a lot of angry football fans marking for xbox, when they discover they need a gold account to tie in with their other service plans. Well, regardless, Microsoft really needs to readdress that issue. As it is really coming too much of an attack point, for all the mindless fanboys.

That and all the fanboys whom refuse to stop claiming MS will "go back on their word". Which is funny because as far as I can recall, at no point in time has MS gone back and taken away features or changed how their service "operates" with legitimate paying customers. The same cannot be said with Sony however, as backwards compatibility was eventually phased out, over costs and Other OS removed entirely, due to unwarranted paranoia. Even force feedback took a step back at first, because they refused to pay royalties to the rights holders of the technology. And only later added back in [DualShock3] because the court ordered them to pay for using unlicensed tech, as which point it was simply included once more because not including it no longer benefited them.

I could also be a dick, by pointing out that they even went so far as to delay the PS3 launch date to assure the system was HDMI 1.3a compatible because combating video recording of bluray films meant more than releasing on time against Microsoft and that bluray itself was only included to force another format down the consumers throat. Which insistently while beating out HDDVD has been seen as a major flop, due to bluray publishing royalties & overcharging consumers at retail for films. So much to the point that online streaming saw a 30% gain in popularity. But you know, a large corporation like Sony can do no wrong. Only another large corporation like Microsoft can. Derp.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on September 07, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
As if anyone here actually defends the PS3.  :sotw: But Simmy, Aren't you...

I may be more partial to Sony yes. I don't deny that. But I'm also not going to defend Sony when they do anti-consumer stuff as well. I got the last PS3 version that was backwards compatible. Certainly not happy that the latter versions didn't have it but, well, it isn't like anyone is going that route now anyways (so it isn't like I can defend any big evil company that is keeping that feature, because no one is). And in many ways, you can say that Sony also paid a price. Who won the last generation? The DS~ Strictly speaking consoles, Wii first, and the 360 and PS3 battled it out for tops. Sony made it hard to for developers to develop for, boom. The whole NO GAEMS meme. This allowed Microsoft to even be a contender. And because of the success of the Wii (which the Wii U is NOT emulating), as much flack as I give Nintendo about their poor choices of late, at least they are sitting on a pile of money that they can ride as they make those poor choices.

As for BD/HDDVD, yeah. BD isn't as popular as online streaming but, honestly, online streaming would have taken off no matter who won, or if Sony took the stick out of their ass and not have all those publishing royalties and the high price of said medium. I mean this is a case where technology is obsoleting the physical medium pretty quickly. Why buy a physical copy of a game that will take up space in the home, when you can download/stream it off the net? Major game publishers are also moving in that direction since it's still cheaper just to put it up on Steam and have people download it, putting brick and mortar stores on high alert like Gamestop. The only thing keeping it back is the availability of Broadband services (I'm looking at you AT&T.   :doom: ).

And no, this isn't a backdoor approval of the Xbox One pre-consumer backlash with their DRM scheme. If you simply focus on the online download aspect of it (which you could do anyways with Xbox Live with certain games), that would be fine. The issue was how it was even more restrictive than what even Steam was doing (the darling for all those PC Master Races out there. Which even the purist have issues because Steam is still a form of DRM that a lot of the Steam White Knights like to gloss over). While I'm already ranting, well, I don't think I need to point out the many issues there were with it. But the ability to have family have a copy...  :uhaul: I'll only say that, the few benefits I thought was good about the old scheme (prefaced with my opinion) was overshadowed by the restrictions of it.

And you forgot to mention how Sony is charging for PSN to play online now too. ZOMG! Sony is following Microsoft.  :sus: And you know what, Sony got a lot of flack for that too. The reason why it doesn't seemed to be as much as MS, well, Sony could still say they were more 'consumer friendly' in everything else.  :chord: Only a total Sony fanboy would defend this change in policy.

If anything, Microsoft shows that consumer backlash can force any company (whether that be Microsoft, or even Sony) to change policy if we the consumer actually did something. They saw the writing on the wall (pre-orders) and changed course. Nintendo even encountered a bit of that when they disapproved showing SMB in that one online tournament (this was after those people originally got approval to show it) and reversed course on that.

Though having all those features behind Xbox Live Gold, that is still an issue. Why pay $5 a month when I can get some of those features on my PC, discounting the price of the ISP service (which you'd be paying anyways) for free? Not the NFL feature~ Yeah. But what if I don't care for that feature, but are about the Skype or the streaming services?

With ALL that ranting out of the way, I will defend Microsoft here. The fact that ad had 'NO GAEMS' but all NFL. Well, it was shown during an NFL game right? I have no issue with that since, at least the ad, knew who it was aiming towards. Though they could have at least shown Madden 2014 or something, I have no major issues with the ad in general.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on September 07, 2013, 04:25:24 PM
Quote from: SimmyC on September 07, 2013, 03:03:30 PM
And you forgot to mention how Sony is charging for PSN to play online now too. ZOMG! Sony is following Microsoft.  :sus: And you know what, Sony got a lot of flack for that too. The reason why it doesn't seemed to be as much as MS, well, Sony could still say they were more 'consumer friendly' in everything else.  :chord: Only a total Sony fanboy would defend this change in policy.

Exactly where did you witness this 'flack'? Cause damn near every pro-Sony site conveniently neglects this to the point that fanboys are still unaware they'll be paying for online gaming, on PS4. I'm not even joking when I say that. Just look at any xbox/sony thread on weaboo filled site sankacocomplex, for example, you'll see tons & tons of marks/fanboys/trolls still ribbing xbox over Gold service and conveniently unaware Sony will soon be doing the same.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on September 07, 2013, 04:40:43 PM
That's because they are Sony Fanboys commenting. They're blind dumbasses who are going to be in for a surprise when they have to start paying for it. Or... because they are Sony Fanboys, will justify it as if they weren't hypocrites. :bravo:

[edit]I mean weebos on sites like 4chan pointed it out as well. And yes, fanboys being fanboys, some justify it as if they weren't being hypocrites. But that is fanboyism for you. Don't be one.

Those that actually read what Sony did, are giving it flack. But like I said, it doesn't seem like much flack given that paying for PSN... at the time before the Microsoft 180, it was a 'minor' negative to all the 'positives' the PS4 had over the One. At worst, it was waved off as a case of Sony doing one 'bad' thing that MS was doing anyway, compared to the mountain that was perceived 'bad' with the One.

And using Shitkaku as a source. :christ:
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on October 29, 2013, 07:26:24 PM
Microsoft buys out Titanfall for "remainder of the title life".

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa194/FordGTGuy/NeoGAF/w0qTK.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Dr.Soviet on October 29, 2013, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on October 29, 2013, 07:26:24 PM
Microsoft buys out Titanfall for "remainder of the title life".

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa194/FordGTGuy/NeoGAF/w0qTK.gif)

>Electronic Arts
>Creators of Modern Warfail 2

(http://i.imgur.com/YQTDEdy.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: SimmyC on October 30, 2013, 03:05:47 AM
MS needs them killer apps. And Titanfall appears to be one of them. And if it works out for MS and EA, hey, good for them.

EA certainly needs the money. Another quarter of them losing money.  :parrot:

[edit]And while I was never a huge fan of the Call of Battlefield Modern Medal of Black Ops, and even with the Sci-Fi setting probably the same shit given who the developer is, if I REAAAAALY want the game without getting a One, I can still get it on the PC. PC Master Race and all!  :smith:
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on October 30, 2013, 09:51:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/iDIzw99.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on November 18, 2013, 10:28:28 AM
A nice looking collection of all the Xbone reviews so far

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=90361409&postcount=3973
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on November 22, 2013, 03:47:15 PM
I've yet to open the box with the actual console....

(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/6736/tkdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on November 22, 2013, 09:06:13 PM
Nice. Stopped by Toys R Us earlier and they had 4 left. But while bouncing around Walmart, Bestbuy & Gamestop, I did not spot a single unit. Wasn't out looking for one, mind you, just out and about today. According to IGN there are reports of some with defective optical drives and systems bricking after being updated. So just like PS4, One is having day1 issues too. Can't say I'm surprised. There's a rumor going round that a couple disgruntled Foxconn employees were sabotaging PS4s and if there's any truth to that, you can bet those cocksuckers were doing the same to Ones.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on November 22, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
Yea I heard. Haven't started mine up yet, but praying mine ain't one of them lol.

Anyway, here is the day one Controller, pretty much the same for the most part except the day one text and a chrome dpad.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img39/2140/8xfe.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on November 22, 2013, 10:37:04 PM
How's it feel in your hand? None of the demo units I saw actually allowed you to play them. For either system.

Tried my buddy's DS4 controller and it felt pretty good, in my massive hands. Felt like they finally spread the controller's base further apart and the handles were slightly larger than the old design, which was nice too. Thou it felt like they were still a little too small for my liking. With the old moldings my pinkies could never grip onto them, but with the DS4 they can. Also liked that the new molding made it so my middle fingers were not rubbing tightly against that grove all of their old controller moldings had. Damned tinyass playstation controllers.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on November 22, 2013, 11:06:44 PM
Hmm...let's see.

The controller feels good in your hand, especially if you love the 360 controller. It feels a tad smaller and less heavy, but that's mostly due to the big ass battery pack in the back completely gone now. It honestly also reminds me of the original Xbox controller, not the big ass Duke but the controller s. Kinda like a fusion of that and the 360 controller. So no more bumping your middle and ring fingers on it. The analog sticks are also a tad smaller, but just like the recent 360 transformable d pad controllers, these also have the incredible engraved swirls that just invite your thumbs in...comfortable as hell. The sticks also feel a little looser, but not in a negative way IMO, in fact, the sensitivity will probably help when playing FPS games.

The controller can now be a wired or wireless controller at will. A usb cord didn't come with it, but the same usb that works to charge most samsung phones like the galaxy works with the Xbone controller. You just plug that sucker on top and and into the Xbone and you now have a wired controller that doesn't even need batteries. The Guide button is now flat surfaces, so it doesn't feel like that ball on the 360. To me, the new guide button feels just like pushing down a key on a keyboard.

Now the triggers...GOOD LORD the triggers. If you can, grab a 360 controller while I explain this. When you click the trigger, its a pretty fast action, and leaves that "click" sound, especially if you pressed it fast and hard. The One triggers though are not like this at all. It's smooth as shit and absolutely quiet. The side is also grooved to match the the grooves in your finger and feels so good. And the new trigger rumble?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4dn9sn46s1rwcc6bo1_400.gif)

I was in a gamestop a few weeks ago playing the demo with some other guys in the store, they had Forza playing. Instead of driving normally though, we were banging the rails, driving in dirt and just fucking our car up to feel the rumble. God damn its good. Games need to take complete advantage of this, no fucking exceptions. No bullshit, this trigger rumble could sale 60% of the fucking controller by itself, hell it probably is.

The d-pad is a savior for all those who hated the original 360-pad. For me, it was a no brainer because as I mentioned in the thread about my custom 360 controller I just got, I only use those transforming d pads now, I don't even waste my time with the original ones. And I knew they would take those and make them permanent on the One controller and they did. Just has a little more click to them. But feels very similar to the SNES D-pad.

The only issue that people may have is with the bumpers. Its getting hot and cold reactions. It's hard to explain, but I'll try my best. For people who would rest their entire index finger on the bumper with the middle section of your finger during the pushing, this bumper was literally built for people like you. It matches the groove in your finger and everything. For people like me who bend their finger like an bow and push the middle of the bumper, it takes a little more adjusting and getting use to, but it still feels very good. The people who will struggle are the people who push down on the edge of the bumper facing towards the battery pack. Meaning, the people who would push down the left side of the right bumper while not touching the right side of the bumper at all. This part is now not pushable at all on the One controller, definitely favoring the right side of the bumper.

Other than that, this controller is the shit. If you were someone who liked using 360 controllers on the PC, you will find yourself upgrading to this eventually.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on November 23, 2013, 07:04:41 AM
So the grips actually being wider is an optical illusion, huh? Now that's funny. Especially after all of the Sony fanboys, whom have never even touched one, were trying to claim they made the grips were wider and this magically screwed with how you held the sucker. You know, sometimes it's hard to tell of these retards are actual fanboys or just corporate shills. In any case, they certainly are good at spreading inaccurate anti-xbox/anti-nintendo propaganda.

Nice review on the controller. Now that I know it can be used as a wired controller, I'll have to pick one up to use with my PC. To be honest, I wasn't sure what was up with PC compatibility. Because when I asked a couple of surprisingly very knowledgeable Gamestop employees about a wireless receiver for One controllers, none of them knew if MS had any plans to release one. And since MS phased out manufacturing of the 360's wireless receiver, news that there were no announced plans for a One receiver was very disheartening, to say the least.

One thing I am disappointed with One, that I know of, anyway. Is that 360 controllers are incompatible. The One's controller uses significantly newer wireless tech, which breaks compatibility, so I fully understand that. But I would have liked for them to include compatibility with wired controllers. Because let's be honest, there are a ton of Madcatz Tournament Sticks, etc sticks out there, they're all wired and none of them are cheap. It simply would have been nice to reuse those beasts, rather than have to fork out for another arcade stick or wait til some crappy third party controller comes out to cannibalize. Just to avoid dropping a couple more Benjamins on those $$$ sticks.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on November 23, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
Yep, I have a wireless receiver and since getting the custom controller, my silver controller is pretty much strictly for PC gaming now
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6788/z0e2.jpg)

With the One controller, the only thing you'll have to wait on is for MS to release the drivers. Not exactly sure when they will release, many guess some time next year. But MS has confirmed they are working on it and plan to have it out in the near future. Here is what Xbox has on it so far
https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/accessories/connect-charge-cable-to-controller

Agree about the controller compatibility. That really would have been nice if 360 controllers could be used. Hell, PS4 did a damn good job making PS4 controllers backwards compatible. Don't quote me, but I DO remember someone on Neogaf mentioning that during a Killer Instinct promo, they WERE using 360 fight sticks. Not sure if this was a temporary thing or what, but maybe there is hope. I know a lot of Xbone fans are mad as hell the 360 wheels don't work either, especially since the new one is expensive as fuck.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on November 24, 2013, 10:41:25 AM
QuoteHell, PS4 did a damn good job making PS4 controllers backwards compatible.

Looked into it and the DS4 is only somewhat backwards compatible. The DS4 workes plugged in via USB, as the PS3 sees it as a generic USB controller. So for some/most games it works, but not perfectly. Rumble does not work, nor does the home button. And I guess there are some other quirks too. Definitely not a solid investment for PS3 owners, looking for an improved controller that just works. My sexy SLS Sega Saturn USB controller is a better investment. heheh.

QuoteDon't quote me, but I DO remember someone on Neogaf mentioning that during a Killer Instinct promo, they WERE using 360 fight sticks.

Well I guess there is some hope. Thou I'm not keeping my fingers crossed. Maybe someone on shoryuken will eventually tryout their sticks on their newest toys and we'll get a more solid answer on that.

EDIT: Looking around shoryuken, found a few people who tried their old sticks and the results weren't positive. A couple others even already started cannibalizing One controllers to make their old sticks work. Playstation stick backward compatibility is a bust too, but no one appears to be cannibalizing DS4 controllers yet.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 01, 2013, 07:14:51 PM
So I started using the Xbone and I'm loving it. For all the problems I've heard....Xbox loves my voice. For a black dude with a Chicago urban voice, Kinnect pretty much understands everything I says.

Will upload pics
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 02, 2013, 12:19:29 AM
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3763/j4zw.jpg)

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/6692/9o6z.jpg)

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9702/sdch.jpg)

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4543/yjrp.jpg)

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4256/1pi4.jpg)

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2730/h16t.jpg)

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7458/bi92.jpg)

Did you guys one even better, got a video of me using Kinect

http://www.youtube.com/v/FKXqPu_Wgdw
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 04, 2013, 12:28:42 AM
Uploading game footage is so fucking simple now. Literally just "xbox record that" and thats it, and with skydrive its easy as hell to upload, here's two clips of me playing Ryse and NBA 2K14

http://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=FB821CD27E6ADAE8!123&authkey=!AH5wrX7I-LDGI6c&ithint=video%2c.mp4

http://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=FB821CD27E6ADAE8!124&authkey=!AEoO7d7CD84q06o&ithint=video%2c.mp4
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 09, 2013, 02:03:21 AM
Finally played a true Kinect title, and got to admit, it was fun as hell.

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=FB821CD27E6ADAE8!130&authkey=!AGApkFUBISQpKyM&ithint=video%2c.mp4

No controller being used here, all body/arms.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tensami on December 11, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
Oh wow. Apparently they delayed it AGAIN here. Cool. October 2014 is gonna be sweet for totally-not-dated motion control gaming yo!

Calling it now, next Xbox will only be released in America. Also probably be shaped like an american football or something.

                                                         (http://25.media.tumblr.com/3397e072ad1b66a90bcd895c136a0185/tumblr_mvt0aeWE1k1stz9bso2_400.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 11, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: Tensami on December 11, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
Oh wow. Apparently they delayed it AGAIN here. Cool.

You and yall god damn accents man. You need my Murica accent
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on December 12, 2013, 10:30:27 PM
Just noticed CronusMAX now has full One support - use of controllers for Wii,WiiU,360,PS3,PS4,keyboard&mouse is now possible using it. Along with use of One&PS4 controllers on 360&PS3. PS4 support is still a WIP ATM.

http://www.youtube.com/v/WdVOSpmUx9g
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 12, 2013, 10:50:44 PM
Someone on Neogaf posted that vid, but I don't know much about that so didn't comment on it here. But if that can be a solution to people wanting to use their favorite fightsticks without having to fork over another 150 bucks, it should be put out in the gaming community hard.

Meanwhile, Dead Rising 3 demo has been put up, so I'll put up a video of me playing it later.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: shades of blue on December 13, 2013, 12:53:17 AM
I've know about the device for quite a while myself, but haven't taken much interest in it before because of the cost and that one of the primary uses for it was to enable device cheating via programmable batch scripts. But being able use One/DS4 controllers on 360/PS3, 360/PS3 arcade sticks on One/PS4 and using keyboard&mouse on any of them goes a long way to making the $60 cost a solid investment. At least in my eyes.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 16, 2013, 11:20:56 PM
Cool little feature I'm just now noticing. After 2 weeks and maybe 30 hours of gaming, the AA batteries are running low. So what the Xbone controller does is turn off and turn back on, but in a low power state that turns the rumble features off, maximizing the remaining life on the batteries.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 24, 2013, 08:49:48 AM
One thing that can get extremely annoying.

The Xbox 360 had profile switching down to a science. You wanted to play with a certain gamertag when loading your save, a simple xbox guide button push, press Y to your dashboard and that's it.

On here though, and it seems to be a third party game issue, if you have two gamertags signed in, it can be frustrating as hell getting it to load YOUR save and not the other person's save. You have to physically sign them out, THEN click on your profile and select "choose this person".

Come on MS, you had that shit like clockwork, bring it back to the xbone.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 13, 2014, 12:43:57 AM
DEFINITELY plan on getting one of these controller skins in blue or green

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdkdUJQCMAAF3wT.jpg:large)

http://www.amazon.com/Controller-Xbox-One-ChameleonSkin-Individual-Protective/dp/B00GXKV8S4/ref=sr_1_5?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1388393329&sr=1-5
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 15, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
New TITANFALL Xbone controller

(http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/01/XboxOne_SE_Controller_F_WhiteBG_RGB_2013-610x487.png)

(http://dri1.img.digitalrivercontent.net/Storefront/Company/msintl/images/English/en-INTL-XboxOne-Wireless-Controller-J72-00001/en-INTL-L-XboxOne-Wireless-Controller-J72-00001-RM3-mnco.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeBsJd3CIAEERW6.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 15, 2014, 10:44:37 PM
Now up on Microsoft Store

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Xbox-One-Titanfall-Limited-Edition-Wireless-Controller/productID.295576100
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 29, 2014, 09:08:04 PM
TRUTHBOMBS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=98866107&postcount=1
:noah: :noah: :noah: :noah: :noah: :noah: :noah:

I'm so horny

*Edit, added complete link chain of events
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Ryokos Stepdad on January 29, 2014, 10:36:34 PM
While Crackdown 3 sounds interesting, I'm not about to get an Adbone to play it.
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 30, 2014, 12:54:11 AM
LEAKS, LEAKS EVERYWHERE

(http://i.imgur.com/AVDmdJz.png)
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on January 30, 2014, 04:16:13 PM
Looks like the rumors are holding weight, both Joystiq and Kotaku reporting

http://kotaku.com/massive-xbox-one-rumor-dump-is-filled-with-juicy-detail-1512616526

http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/30/rumor-xbox-one-major-update-titanfall-console-halo-2-hd-crac/
Title: Re: Xbox ONE Station
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on February 14, 2014, 05:40:43 PM
Finally getting some big updates, majority that fans have asked for...

QuoteFull list of changes/improvements:

*Update to My Game & Apps to allow sorting of games and application lists, and separate queue lists for games, applications and installs

*Ability to delete game and application save data

*Improved installation and DLC management

*Addition of the controller battery power indicator

*Improved UI for accessing friends, achievements, messages, and party chat

*Game DVR app to be included in the Xbox OneGuide as an app channel

*Update to the boot progress indicators for system update

*Improve consistency of UX for update & install progress

*Separate game, application, and install queue lists

*Addition of USB keyboard support

*Stability and performance update

*Improved NAT detection

*Network Troubleshooter improvements

*Blu-ray quality improvements

*Significant performance and stability improvements

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100833770#post100833770

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100835207#post100835207
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on February 18, 2014, 10:35:33 PM
MS finally got some good sales going on....

Definitely picking up Lost planet 2 for 5 bucks

http://majornelson.com/2014/02/18/xbox-360-ultimate-games-sale-day-2/

http://majornelson.com/2014/02/18/this-weeks-xbox-live-store-deals-6/

http://majornelson.com/2014/02/17/xbox-360-ultimate-games-sale/
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on February 19, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
Day 3

http://majornelson.com/2014/02/19/xbox-360-ultimate-games-sale-day-3/
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on March 14, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
So it's been about 4 months since the system released, here's an update...

(http://s30.postimg.org/t9rg2yf9t/download.jpg)

(http://s30.postimg.org/5u9ixlvip/download1.jpg)

I also have Halo Spartan Ops which is a digital game.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 04, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
New mystery first party MS studio.... LXP studios

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y239/DopeyFish/Mobile%20Uploads/lxp_by_endless_1-d79terx_zpswr8pjgcx.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on April 10, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
Just ordered a transforming dpad from China. I'm going to convert my wired 360 controller and if I like the results, maybe modify the others too. The transforming dpad only cost $3.50 shipped. At that price I'm willing to hack up one of my controllers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Black-Black-transforming-rotating-dpad-for-New-Version-xbox360-controller-/171157825884

http://www.youtube.com/v/sW0PM-vvtGQ

http://www.youtube.com/v/g8MCYIH9E7s
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 10, 2014, 09:51:41 PM
Damn that's a good price.

Those chinese mofos charged me 8 dollars for shipping for my red one, shouldn't have went through amazon. Also try to get a real cutting tool, cause using a Razor blade is frustrating as hell.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on April 11, 2014, 08:32:19 AM
Yeah the price is why I did not order one before. I believe that last time I checked, most were still trying to charge nearly $15 shipped and I was like fuck that. For that price my modified dpads work just fine.

That said, I noted from the pictures that the transforming dpad has the same molding flaw. So before I install it I'm going to fill the gap between each tooth with a little hot glue. That way I'm not shortening the dpad motion by increasing the dpad thickness between the controller molding and the contact pad. And to be honest, I would not even bother at this point, had it not been for my displeasure at how much gap Microsoft left between the ring and the dpad molding, due to them using that goofy circular diamond design. Which is the design flaw that causes the dpad to move around. And does so even after adding a roughed up spacer underneath (coarse sandpapered it) & gluing the spacer directly to the dpad molding. I had hoped that would stiffen everything up, after the massive improvement the spacer made to the dpad. But, well, a nearly free fix cannot fix everything.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 15, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
Pretty decent Sale going on over at Microsoft marketplace

http://majornelson.com/2014/04/15/xbox-360-spring-sale-and-this-weeks-deals-with-gold/
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on April 15, 2014, 08:03:55 PM
Gotta give it to MS, these updates have been kicking ass. Really liking the Youtube upload update.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on April 21, 2014, 02:19:03 PM
Transforming dpad arrived today from the land of counterfeit goods and wouldn't you know it, the build quality on it is complete shit. I figure I'd toy with it before butchering my controller and I see the dpad flexing inward. Meaning that the plastic quality is so poor, that it'd guaranteed to break. So much for that investment. I really need to stop giving counterfeit Chinese goods the benefit of doubt. Because they always end up being a massive disappointment. Oh well, at least it did not cost me a small fortune.

BTW They also included a new set of analog sticks, which was a nice unexpected extra. But the catch is they're red. Not black or grey, but red.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 13, 2014, 02:46:58 PM
QuoteSince the beginning, we have focused on delivering great games and entertainment experiences for you. Your feedback matters to us and it shapes the products and services we build. Your feedback showed up in the Xbox One console we launched back in November and in the monthly updates we've delivered since.

Today, we're excited to share more ways your feedback is impacting the products we build.

First, beginning on June 9th, in all markets where Xbox One is sold, we will offer Xbox One starting at $399*. This is a new console option that does not include Kinect. For $399, our new Xbox One offering will continue to deliver access to the best blockbuster games like "Titanfall," "Call of Duty: Ghosts," "Forza Motorsport 5," "Dead Rising 3," and the upcoming "Watch Dogs," "Destiny" and "Sunset Overdrive." You will also be able to access popular entertainment apps, such as Twitch, YouTube, and Netflix, as well as watch live TV and use OneGuide.  Finally, you will continue to be able to use many of the unique features of Xbox One including the ability to get game invites while you watch TV, switch between games and entertainment apps, enjoy Twitch broadcasts, and upload your favorite gaming moments.

Next, we're bringing more value to Xbox Live Gold members and offering all Xbox 360 and Xbox One owners access to entertainment apps whether or not you have an Xbox Live Gold membership.  In early June, here is what you can expect from the new generation of Xbox Live:

    Free games with Games with Gold**. Since Games with Gold launched on Xbox 360 a year ago, over 12 million people have enjoyed great free games, resulting in nearly 200 million hours of free fun playing Games with Gold titles. We've been learning from your feedback and have focused on making improvements each month to the selection of titles. To celebrate the one-year anniversary of Games with Gold for Xbox 360 and as a thank you for helping shape this program, members will receive an additional free Xbox 360 game in June. The Games with Gold titles for Xbox 360 in June are "Dark Souls," "Charlie Murder" and a bonus game of "Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition." We're pleased to bring Games with Gold to Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox One in June. Members will have subscription-based access to free games ranging from top hits to breaking indie stars. The program will launch on Xbox One with "Max: The Curse of Brotherhood" and "Halo: Spartan Assault." A single Gold membership will get you access to the free games for both Xbox One and Xbox 360.

    Exclusive Discounts. Deals with Gold will also launch for Xbox One in June, delivering discounts for great games each month, with significant savings for Xbox Live Gold members. The first titles offered in June will include "Forza Motorsport 5," "Ryse: Son of Rome," and a few other surprises. In the coming months, we will offer significant savings of up to 50 – 75 percent off certain titles. This program will continue to be available for Xbox Live Gold members on Xbox 360. And new on Xbox One, we will launch a virtual VIP room exclusive to Xbox Live Gold members where we will feature free games, monthly deals, and other great benefits.

    Popular entertainment apps will be available for all Xbox 360 and Xbox One owners. Xbox 360 has been a leader in delivering entertainment experiences for years, with over 170 global entertainment apps and experiences available today. We're constantly adding new partners and experiences to the growing catalog on Xbox One. Coming in June, anyone with an Xbox will be able to access popular entertainment experiences – whether or not you have an Xbox Live Gold membership. This includes great gaming apps like Machinima, Twitch and Upload, popular video services like Netflix, Univision Deportes, GoPro, Red Bull TV and HBO GO, sports experiences like the NFL app for Xbox One, MLB.TV, NBA Game Time, NHL Game Center and more.*** Microsoft experiences including Internet Explorer, Skype, OneDrive and OneGuide will also be available to all Xbox customers.**** You can find a full list of apps and features that will be available below.


We've heard that you want more choices from Xbox One. You want a wide variety of options in your games and entertainment experiences and you also want options in your hardware selection.

To be clear, as we introduce this new Xbox One console option, Kinect remains an important part of our vision.  Many of you are using Kinect for Xbox One every day. In fact, more than 80 percent of you are actively using Kinect, with an average of 120 voice commands per month on each console. Some of the most popular voice commands include "Xbox On," "Xbox Broadcast" and "Xbox Record That." We will continue to offer a premium Xbox One with Kinect bundle to deliver voice and gesture controls, biometric sign-in, instant personalization, instant scanning of QR codes, and enhanced features only available with Kinect in games such as "Kinect Sports Rivals," "Just Dance 2014," "Project Spark" and more.   

If you buy Xbox One for $399 and later decide you want to have all the experiences Kinect enables, we will also offer a standalone sensor for Xbox One later this fall. We'll share more details about the standalone Kinect for Xbox One in the coming months.

Phil
@XboxP3


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Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on May 17, 2014, 11:11:52 AM
I installed that transforming dpad and found it to be a huge piece of shit. While I was not impressed with build quality, I was even less impressed with performance. The piece of shit slid all over, far worse than the original dpad. It seemed even less responsive than the original dpad installed and I did not care for the way it's chrome finish clung to my finger. I ended up buying another shell off ebay just to undo the damage this horrid piece of shit caused.

So anyone thinking of modifying their controller with one, don't. Maybe the controller MS sells is better, but the chinese reproduction piece of the hacked up shell just suck. You're better off creating a spacer to rest between the dpad and contact pad than you are installing one of these. Way better off.

The wired controller looks pretty damn sexy, with this monstrosity installed
(http://i57.tinypic.com/21cfdqr.jpg)

There you can see the gaping hole I created for that piece of shit to fit through
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2z6h734.jpg)

And here you can see the extra two notches made, along with the shorter dpad nub pointed down to prevent rubbing
(http://i57.tinypic.com/35bsbk1.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on May 21, 2014, 09:56:28 PM
Bless the lord, external hard drive support finally here

https://www.youtube.com/v/rITT7GaTtP0
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on June 05, 2014, 11:05:11 AM
FINALLY!!!!!!

http://majornelson.com/2014/06/05/pc-drivers-for-the-xbox-one-controller-available-now/
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on July 23, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
A lot of my time recently has gone to gaming and trying new shit, so makes sense I update the Xbox thread. For starters, my collection has expanded quite significantly the past 2 months. For starters, Gamestop had a promo where for 4 weeks straight, they gave away 5 dollar gift codes for connecting through a facebook account. So obviously online scumbags like myself used the opportunity to fuck the system and get fucking PAID. This is where I spent a lot of my time the last month and a half.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=840749

Yep, 124 pages, motherfuckas weren't playing around. I myself made about 320 dollars all together from making a lot of bullshit facebook accounts and emails. But god damn it was worth it. So for my spoils

(http://i.imgur.com/qa4xG3a.png)

The circles games are the new games, and all digital. And because of them, my 250 gb Xbox 360 harddrive is completely full and now I'm in need of another.

Some of my physical spoils thanks to cheapassgamer

(http://i.imgur.com/Me1C0E6.jpg)

For the most part, I'm really enjoying my new games and have had my head in them.

As for what I currently bought just an hour ago

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjU2/z/mn0AAOxyMZ5RmpJR/$T2eC16h,!%290E9s37IeyFBRmpJQu5r!~~60_57.JPG)

After watching Evo, but not feeling like shelling the money for a legit fightstick, I'm gonna test this thing out and see how I feel about it.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on July 24, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
Quote from: Tenchi Ryu on July 23, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
As for what I currently bought just an hour ago

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjU2/z/mn0AAOxyMZ5RmpJR/$T2eC16h,!%290E9s37IeyFBRmpJQu5r!~~60_57.JPG)

After watching Evo, but not feeling like shelling the money for a legit fightstick, I'm gonna test this thing out and see how I feel about it.

I'd return it. The contact pad under the dpad wears down extremely fast, on ALL Madcatz Fightpads. Also I hate how greasy & large the dpad is. Worst knockoff Saturn controllers of all time.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on July 27, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
Final Judgement: B-

Definitely see what you mean about the greasy D-pad, which it had a little bit more grip to it. On the other hand, really digging the button placement. Since I tend to play with a controller like a fightstick, pushing down on the buttons with my index and middle fingers, this thing is really helpful when pulling off supers that require 3 button inputs.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 04, 2014, 08:38:12 PM
The people asked, and they have been answered

(http://images.eurogamer.net/2013/articles/1/6/9/7/7/2/0/white-xbox-one-and-sunset-overdrive-bundle-spotted-140714649898.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on August 13, 2014, 07:55:30 PM
Damn I want that controller

(http://i.imgur.com/rXdSbP6.jpg?1?9064)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 02, 2014, 12:48:48 AM
Looks like Warframe has finally been added to Xbone, probably gonna transfer my account from steam onto here.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: takai on September 04, 2014, 11:43:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/9ZyQK6kUdWQ

I can't wait to get my hands on this sexy beast.

(http://cdn.madamenoire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/church-chour.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 05, 2014, 02:07:46 PM
 :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Microsoft are the kings of advertisement

(http://i.imgur.com/6Pfs2pz.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: shades of blue on September 07, 2014, 06:46:10 AM
While while game developers continue to find new ways to dick over their customers, Bungie just showed everyone why they're awesome.

http://www.gamrreview.com/news/91932/last-gen-destiny-players-can-upgrade-to-current-gen-for-free/
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on September 21, 2014, 06:21:54 PM
My last library update was in July, and I've upgraded my library quite a bit in these past few months. And all thanks to ebay and cheapassgamer, all this cost me no more than maybe 100 dollars. Just catching those good deals.

(http://i.imgur.com/j2ZdONP.jpg)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on December 05, 2014, 01:32:01 PM
Count on Capcom to take something working, and fuck shit up.

Street Fighter 4 exclusive to PS4 and PC....seriously what in the flying fuck capcom. You Take away one of your strongest fanbases....Probably for xenophobic shit reasons.
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on February 06, 2015, 01:20:15 AM
Found a really cool new site that is similar to Xboxclips, but also lets you turn clips into gifs

http://xboxdvr.com/Tenchi%20Ryu

(http://i.imgur.com/0UQkzGw.gif)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on February 21, 2015, 02:02:22 AM
FUCKIN FINALLY!!!!

Screenshots coming to Xbox next month!!!! FORZA pics...FORZA PICS EVERYWHERE!!!

:parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :parrot:


(http://screenshotscontent-t2001.xboxlive.com/00090000059278ef-0799248e-56e9-4bc8-8681-342cb2eccfa5/Screenshot-Original.png?sv=2013-08-15&sr=c&sig=ryfX6pmD7Y5BZC9%2F%2Blc2vB4ZbbaiVilwspfT5ePhw3g%3D&st=2015-02-21T06%3A11%3A27Z&se=2015-02-21T07%3A16%3A27Z&sp=r&__gda__=1424502987_e55d5b76516b79cf416d9c0594974cd7)

(http://screenshotscontent-t4001.xboxlive.com/00090000059278ef-280277c5-79a1-4fbe-91d4-3806f50b9a9b/Screenshot-Original.png?sv=2013-08-15&sr=c&sig=Hl8El%2BpA98iIgL5oH3NABTlETy7qaGiuN06Ky5hJUNo%3D&st=2015-02-21T06%3A14%3A28Z&se=2015-02-21T07%3A19%3A28Z&sp=r&__gda__=1424503168_783cf6432b512227aa0f6f60c4d76b46)

(http://screenshotscontent-t3002.xboxlive.com/0009000002bacb69-29329d32-69d6-457e-9ead-851c86db0288/Screenshot-Original.png?sv=2013-08-15&sr=c&sig=4CB77uWnx%2Fwl%2BD8Bek%2BRtOD0tFHltrNuvL9Yv0T2NNY%3D&st=2015-02-21T06%3A13%3A56Z&se=2015-02-21T07%3A18%3A56Z&sp=r&__gda__=1424503136_89cfedc9da63812cffaecc2446ee308e)

(http://screenshotscontent-t3002.xboxlive.com/000900000052d1f9-3dedb737-e757-4046-b643-e02c10acfaba/Screenshot-Original.png?sv=2013-08-15&sr=c&sig=60%2Bb2CDiUKOcQgy2QOLApIoq%2BvEfRH0LMBTvb%2BNqxdE%3D&st=2015-02-21T06%3A35%3A32Z&se=2015-02-21T07%3A40%3A32Z&sp=r&__gda__=1424504432_e0b18351f0646fcb787624b49d8205af)

(http://screenshotscontent-t2002.xboxlive.com/000900000052d1f9-d1fbd4aa-321f-4408-9f1f-e900c7f4df0c/Screenshot-Original.png?sv=2013-08-15&sr=c&sig=HlFRNVLXpLesGwQCFZZKF7r5V9B8chxdA3eUJT5OiIA%3D&st=2015-02-21T06%3A36%3A58Z&se=2015-02-21T07%3A41%3A58Z&sp=r&__gda__=1424504518_f07c44abea29701b0ed2262969b28c4d)

(http://abload.de/img/screenshot-original3gnre7.png)
Title: Re: Xbox Thread
Post by: Tenchi Ryu on March 10, 2015, 01:26:03 AM
Screenshots are fucking Live

(http://abload.de/img/tue_mar_10_00-15-40_ca5uqs.png)

(http://abload.de/img/tue_mar_10_00-16-15_cywun9.png)