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Title: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: takahata on January 03, 2017, 10:26:28 PM
For the Last few years, I have visiting the fan site Tenchiforum.  Tenchiforum is one of the three Tenchi Muyo fan sites.  When I was checking the site on Monday January 2, I have learn that Tenchiforum is shutting down. While  Tenchiforum  is likely becoming an archive, Useless Tenchi is the only active site as I am aware of. 

I have been a Tenchi Muyo fan since it first came on Cartoon Network's original Toonami.  Tenchiforum was not the first fan site which I have found. The former Ayeka's Bliss was the first site which I have.

There is a probability that the former members of Tenchiforum will be checking out Useless Tenchi.  If any of the members of Tenchiforum decide to join Useless, let's welcome them.


:crash: :damnit: :huhm:

Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 04, 2017, 02:54:33 AM
QuoteTenchiforum  is likely becoming an archive
Oh, I doubt that.

QuoteI have been a Tenchi Muyo fan since it first came on Cartoon Network's original Toonami.  Tenchiforum was not the first fan site which I have found.
Same.

QuoteIf any of the members of Tenchiforum decide to join Useless, let's welcome them.
Of course, the more, the merrier.

:duke:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 04, 2017, 03:37:06 AM
There is only a few people that I would deny sign up but most are welcome.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Andraste on January 04, 2017, 09:41:14 AM
Quote from: Harls on January 04, 2017, 02:54:33 AM
QuoteIf any of the members of Tenchiforum decide to join Useless, let's welcome them.
Of course, the more, the merrier.

:duke:

I agree! I love talking with other Tenchi fans so the more the merrier! Because of its age and niche genre we really should try to stick together. I'm not saying we have to agree on everything but we should do our best to support eachother and foster a positive communtiy.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 04, 2017, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: tenchifan1992 on January 04, 2017, 01:47:21 PM
He'll everybody my name s tenchifan1992  and I used to be no tenchi forum. I can't believe there shutting down because of  ova4! .so I went here

greetings
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 05, 2017, 03:58:06 AM
QuoteGET ME OUT OF THIS NUTOUSE NOW!.

Well, OK then. Thankfully the door works both ways.
Sorry it's not to your liking.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 05, 2017, 07:22:29 AM
Quote from: Harls on January 05, 2017, 03:58:06 AM
QuoteGET ME OUT OF THIS NUTOUSE NOW!.

Well, OK then. Thankfully the door works both ways.
Sorry it's not to your liking.

that was a quick 180
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Less than four days after I first publicly commented:
http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=1030.msg44679#msg44679
QuoteThis fundamental schism ran deep down the western fandom and spread to many boards, it caused a lot of topics to transition into tired arguments upon arguments upon arguments upon arguments ad nauseum.  Until around 2010 iirc, by then the fandom basically got whittled down to one single forum where the bickering continued unabated, and a divorce between these two groups was finally initiated and both went their own way.

And it was the single best thing to happen to all concerned.  That's basically how UselessTenchi and the other forum came about.  A tiresome decade of nonstop bickering ended, everyone needed a break and got to focus on what was important to them and finally be fannish what they want to be fannish about without constantly being defensive or presenting it with apology.  Everyone benefited from the arrangement.  And now you all see the friction when the two try to come together again... don't force fan family reunions.

The other place up and closes on me--.--  A disaster.

Almost anyone is welcome here.  So are other viewpoints.  Just realize we're a different flavor of the fandom from the other place, we're not the PG-13 Toonami crowd nor a safespace.  At the same time, we don't want the board to go the same route the pre-2010 Tenchi fandom went along.  So, argument is welcome, however endless bickering and whining will not be.

What will the difference be?  Well, if you open your own topic to say "I don't like X."  Fine and good.  Anybody stepping in that knows what they're getting into.  However, if you start the same argumentative topic twice because the first dies on you or if you go into another pre-existing topic about, say, about Sega Saturn Game Tenchi's Carrot Quest just to bring up how the new character Onika raped your childhood, and then basically post the same point several times in a row, that's bickering/whining.  Being different and communicating that is okay, making yourself the loudest and most persistent to bludgeon others with your viewpoint is not.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Andraste on January 05, 2017, 05:33:34 PM
Quote from: Dr.Soviet on January 05, 2017, 07:22:29 AM
Quote from: Harls on January 05, 2017, 03:58:06 AM
QuoteGET ME OUT OF THIS NUTOUSE NOW!.
Well, OK then. Thankfully the door works both ways.
Sorry it's not to your liking.
that was a quick 180

(http://i.imgur.com/ymSZvkG.jpg)

Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
Almost anyone is welcome here.  So are other viewpoints.  Just realize we're a different flavor of the fandom from the other place, we're not the PG-13 Toonami crowd or a safespace, and don't want the board to go the way pre-2010 Tenchi fandom went.  Argument is welcome, however endless bickering and whining will not be.

I think that is pretty eloquently stated about this not being the typical board. Maybe that can be added to the front page or the entrance page when/if the image gets altered. I wasn't around during OVA 3, and I guess I am glad I wasn't. I think at this point Useless will have to deal with these issues seeing as it is the only forum left and new episodes are coming out that people will want to discuss.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Can anybody from there tell me why they never really pursued translating the rest of the Hasegawa novels?  Aside from MnE/DoD, which was covered by the movie, there were 11 more novels.

I'm not into Hasegawa's vision, but they seemed excited over it... and it seems odd that they wouldn't fully pursue a basically brand-new (to the west) continuity with all new stories and an ending they'll surely like as well as an author they fully support.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 05, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
Honestly I was glad they were trying to translate Non-Kajishima content as I wasn't gonna focus on that stuff till after the Kajishima stuff was done first.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: AstroNerdBoy on January 07, 2017, 01:23:25 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
  At the same time, we don't want the board to go the same route the pre-2010 Tenchi fandom went along.  So, argument is welcome, however endless bickering and whining will not be.

Ha!ha! Yes, the endless bickering, fighting, etc. I'm so glad I gave up being a moderator at FUNimation's forum and at Ayeka Fan Club. I hated all of the drama, which is why I pretty much stayed away from Tenchi forums for a long while, except when old contacts would ping me about stuff.

Anyway, I only learned that Tenchiforum was gone today. I think I last popped in there last week just to see what they thought of OVA 4. I didn't hang around too long. I'm sad to see them go though.

As to Hasegawa-sensei's novels, I don't know what happened there. I was interested in checking those out just for the fun of it. It may have been a case of a lot of enthusiasm, but no support. For years, I tried to get the doujinshi and such translated. I can't tell you how many folks would write me saying, "Hey, I know Japanese. Send me some stuff and I'll translate for you." I'd send them a test page of something I already had properly translated and verified by a pro. Only very rarely would anyone translate the test page and of those who did, none responded to stuff I sent them.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Eff Efferson on January 11, 2017, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: AstroNerdBoy on January 07, 2017, 01:23:25 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 03:36:35 PM
  At the same time, we don't want the board to go the same route the pre-2010 Tenchi fandom went along.  So, argument is welcome, however endless bickering and whining will not be.

Ha!ha! Yes, the endless bickering, fighting, etc. I'm so glad I gave up being a moderator at FUNimation's forum and at Ayeka Fan Club. I hated all of the drama, which is why I pretty much stayed away from Tenchi forums for a long while, except when old contacts would ping me about stuff.

Anyway, I only learned that Tenchiforum was gone today. I think I last popped in there last week just to see what they thought of OVA 4. I didn't hang around too long. I'm sad to see them go though.

As to Hasegawa-sensei's novels, I don't know what happened there. I was interested in checking those out just for the fun of it. It may have been a case of a lot of enthusiasm, but no support. For years, I tried to get the doujinshi and such translated. I can't tell you how many folks would write me saying, "Hey, I know Japanese. Send me some stuff and I'll translate for you." I'd send them a test page of something I already had properly translated and verified by a pro. Only very rarely would anyone translate the test page and of those who did, none responded to stuff I sent them.

read through the google translates i posted of hasegawa... within a few moments of reading them your eyes will rollback in your head so hard that you will see why they didn't get translated
heres my summary of the hasegawa cannon:

1. The aborted version of ova 2
2-3 Hasegawa writes down what happens in ova 1 because maybe your a teenager and your mom won't buy you a series of 6+ individualy sold ultra expensive video tapes about space waifus.
Everything up to mansetsu no eve: Tenchi has a tea party ryoko tries to feed tenchi crumpets. ayeka objects because those are her crumpets and she wanted to give them to tenchi first. also sasami gets kiddinaped by a she pedofile and mihoshi and kiyone play dungens and waifus and kagato's son comes down to earth to talk about his feelings while he has tea and crumpets with tenchi

mansetsu no eve: Tenchi becomes a wife beater and gets a baby thanks to the worst revenge plot by one of the most oddest anime villains in history. at the end he chooses to unabort the magicly aborted the baby for some reason. even though he is like what 15... ok... i guess... maury maury maury.


the last one: Tenchi has a tea party ryoko tries to feed tenchi crumpets. ayeka objects because those are her crumpets and she wanted to give them to tenchi first. then tenchi gets some ptsd flashbacks of sakura blossoms decides they have to like kill the juraian emperor or  some shit and tenchi chooses ryoko to be his baby momma and katsuhito spent the rest of eterity sealed in a cherry tree! the end!


......................................................... chris-chan could write a better continuity.




Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 11, 2017, 08:07:06 PM
Yeah, I never had much enthusiasm for Hasegawa's work based on the book pictures alone, like the she-pedophile stalking Sasami.  I think it was S. Naoe, one japanese guy that gave the west a ton of information via mailing list nearly 20 years ago, that opined that Hasegawa "moved the characters in odd ways".  Her MnE Tenchi movie had multiple occasions of incest more overt than MK's Tenchi canon, which is why the complaints about MK's fetishes felt odd, especially when the complainers often clung tenaciously to Hasegawa as an example of how Tenchi Muyo should be. 

I don't have much else to gauge her stories however.

Kagato's son did intrigue me, although the very concept seemed out-of-character.  Anime Kagato didn't seem to be the fatherly type, even if he had kids.  It's a neat pic though.  Probably intriguing because Kagato is a great villain but was used only once.

QuoteNo.6816 Hasegawa novels
Name: S.Naoe
Date: 2001 07/17 23:43
From: chfu1006.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp
I have read most of Ms.Hasegawa's Tenchi novels.
But I don't think you need to care about the stuffs of them,
especially if you are a fan of OVA cannon. I regard her novels as a kind of commercial fan fics.
As one of the creators of 1st OVA, Ms.H may know something about Mr.K's concepts but apparently she understand little about them.
As for the story of Tenchi's mother's death, Ms.H wrote only the stuff of 'she was finally killed when Tenchi as a child generated LHW's and could not control them.' in one of her novels. As far as I know, she didn't write other stuffs of 'Achika showed a great potential when she was a girl.....'
I doubt Funaho(tree) would kill or wound Yosho's daughter even though she failed in the contract ritual.

S. Naoe had more information on Hasegawa and her role in Tenchi Muyo! here. (http://www.uselesstenchi.org/Forum/index.php?topic=343.0)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Monster Man on January 11, 2017, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Can anybody from there tell me why they never really pursued translating the rest of the Hasegawa novels?  Aside from MnE/DoD, which was covered by the movie, there were 11 more novels.

I'm not into Hasegawa's vision, but they seemed excited over it... and it seems odd that they wouldn't fully pursue a basically brand-new (to the west) continuity with all new stories and an ending they'll surely like as well as an author they fully support.

What a shame; read the first book once it was translated and had all that hype around it.

Wasn't a bad read, quite enjoyed it. Too bad they stopped there and then.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: ShiroNight on January 12, 2017, 12:47:56 AM
I actually really enjoyed the first translated novel. I was surprised how (well for Tenchi) dark it was though. I wish more of them could of got translated just for curiousity sake. Only seen the pictures so I can kinda guess what each one is about~
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Gaston on January 12, 2017, 08:12:21 AM
So that mean Dagon will stop acting like he is the voice in Tenchi Muyo fandom and past his times rewrite fact that doesn't fit his agenda? I have no problem someone  for example, prefer Hasegawa over MK but I have a problem when they start lying.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 12, 2017, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on January 11, 2017, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Can anybody from there tell me why they never really pursued translating the rest of the Hasegawa novels?  Aside from MnE/DoD, which was covered by the movie, there were 11 more novels.

I'm not into Hasegawa's vision, but they seemed excited over it... and it seems odd that they wouldn't fully pursue a basically brand-new (to the west) continuity with all new stories and an ending they'll surely like as well as an author they fully support.

What a shame; read the first book once it was translated and had all that hype around it.

Wasn't a bad read, quite enjoyed it. Too bad they stopped there and then.

Hello and welcome to the forum :)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Monster Man on January 12, 2017, 08:57:15 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 12, 2017, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: Monster Man on January 11, 2017, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Can anybody from there tell me why they never really pursued translating the rest of the Hasegawa novels?  Aside from MnE/DoD, which was covered by the movie, there were 11 more novels.

I'm not into Hasegawa's vision, but they seemed excited over it... and it seems odd that they wouldn't fully pursue a basically brand-new (to the west) continuity with all new stories and an ending they'll surely like as well as an author they fully support.

What a shame; read the first book once it was translated and had all that hype around it.

Wasn't a bad read, quite enjoyed it. Too bad they stopped there and then.

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Thank you.

Quote from: Gaston on January 12, 2017, 08:12:21 AM
So that mean Dagon will stop acting like he is the voice in Tenchi Muyo fandom and past his times rewrite fact that doesn't fit his agenda? I have no problem someone  for example, prefer Hasegawa over MK but I have a problem when they start lying.

Hold up. What were they lying about?
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Gaston on January 13, 2017, 06:31:21 AM
Quote from: Monster Man on January 12, 2017, 08:57:15 PM

Quote from: Gaston on January 12, 2017, 08:12:21 AM
So that mean Dagon will stop acting like he is the voice in Tenchi Muyo fandom and past his times rewrite fact that doesn't fit his agenda? I have no problem someone  for example, prefer Hasegawa over MK but I have a problem when they start lying.

Hold up. What were they lying about?

Basically Dagon wanted absolutely MK had nothing to do being the creation of Tenci Muyo and that Tenchi was suppose to be with Ryoko. Among other thing he claim Achika was created before Mama!Kiyone and so MK rip-off a Hasegawa character...despite the fact Mama!Kiyone show up in episode 5 of OVA 1 during flashbacks. When I pointed it to him on tumblr he answered Achika was named first so she come first. He also shit on translations made by an old member of the Tenchi fandom because that person translated the manga that show maybe at the end of Tenchi Forever Tenchi actually end with Sasami and not Ryoko.

He aldo made a video where he get Petrea Buchard narrated some lied. I didn't watch the video but someone told me MK is called a misogynist based on a quote Dagon fabricated.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Meeeeeeelllllon on January 14, 2017, 06:25:32 PM
I'm not really sure why they didn't pursue more novels. The first came out and I anticipated more but then nothing else happened. I guess bits of the forum just moved on from Tenchi completely, or moved on from the idea of a forum itself in favor of social media. Tenchiforum itself was dead for awhile, just the same people posting to kick it along. It was no surprise when Dagon finally closed it.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Monster Man on January 14, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
QuoteBasically Dagon wanted absolutely MK had nothing to do being the creation of Tenci Muyo and that Tenchi was suppose to be with Ryoko. Among other thing he claim Achika was created before Mama!Kiyone and so MK rip-off a Hasegawa character...despite the fact Mama!Kiyone show up in episode 5 of OVA 1 during flashbacks. When I pointed it to him on tumblr he answered Achika was named first so she come first. He also shit on translations made by an old member of the Tenchi fandom because that person translated the manga that show maybe at the end of Tenchi Forever Tenchi actually end with Sasami and not Ryoko.

He aldo made a video where he get Petrea Buchard narrated some lied. I didn't watch the video but someone told me MK is called a misogynist based on a quote Dagon fabricated.

Well, shit. What can you do I guess?

Don't matter too much now.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 15, 2017, 06:47:57 AM
Quote from: جبريل 無道 on January 05, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
Can anybody from there tell me why they never really pursued translating the rest of the Hasegawa novels?  Aside from MnE/DoD, which was covered by the movie, there were 11 more novels.

I'm not into Hasegawa's vision, but they seemed excited over it... and it seems odd that they wouldn't fully pursue a basically brand-new (to the west) continuity with all new stories and an ending they'll surely like as well as an author they fully support.

http://tenchiforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1487

QuoteThe short of it is: It's a lot of work.
yadda
yadda
yadda
The longer-short of it is: 12,000 pages is a lot of reading, interpreting, localizing and re-writing for minimal reward.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on May 23, 2018, 04:15:35 AM
"something, something, expecting different results..."

http://tenchiforum.com/universe/tenchiforum-5-0-tenchiforum-forever/

Best of luck, guys.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on May 23, 2018, 06:24:30 AM
Yes. Good luck.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on May 23, 2018, 07:47:59 PM
 :whak:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Ricin on May 23, 2018, 08:55:34 PM
I looked at their forum. It shouldn't be called Tenchi Forum. It should be called Shilling Ai Tenchi forum. Everything is pushing Ai and Shitting on the Ryo-Ohki universe
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on May 24, 2018, 09:05:55 AM
That is a strange set of priorities.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 01, 2022, 12:44:44 AM
Ohohoho...

https://tenchiforum.com/tenchimuyowiki-com-officially-launches/

this should be good...  :sus:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 01, 2022, 10:19:19 AM
Wouldn't it be better to just help out with improving the existing Tenchi wiki instead?
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 01, 2022, 04:08:10 PM
I'm thinking they'll concentrate on Universe and non-Kajishima material.

You know, to eliminate "misinformation". ;)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 02, 2022, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: antvasima on January 01, 2022, 10:19:19 AM
Wouldn't it be better to just help out with improving the existing Tenchi wiki instead?

This is what normal people what do, Unless the wiki had some major problems which to my knowledge I haven't heard any complaints? Plus if something is wrong then just fix it with citations that's the whole nature of wikis in the first place.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 02, 2022, 03:17:03 PM
Yes. Agreed. It isn't like me or Ned are harsh regarding new members who help out.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Nonsuch Ned on January 03, 2022, 09:33:12 PM
So, the guy who claims we wiki admins avoid reality and stifle conversation... actively misrepresented my arguments, made false accusations, and closed comments on his announcement.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 04, 2022, 12:01:26 AM
Quote from: Nonsuch Ned on January 03, 2022, 09:33:12 PM
So, the guy who claims we wiki admins avoid reality and stifle conversation... actively misrepresented my arguments, made false accusations, and closed comments on his announcement.

I can't even get mad at this point I would have hoped in the 10+ years that we since broke off certain people would have matured but every few years a wayward soul comes over here to tell me the experience that they had over there and it's the same story each time.

Then again I may be harsh in my judgement of someone who doesn't seem to be affected by loss.

Edit: I normally don't give a shit so moving forward let's focus on what we've been doing :Hek:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 04, 2022, 09:53:11 AM
Quotemoving forward let's focus on what we've been doing

Hear, hear.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Nonsuch Ned on January 04, 2022, 12:18:24 PM
I'm done with vitriol about it. For my own self-therapy, I've written out point by point refutations of each of his baseless acusations, but I have no plans to publish it. I did screencap major interactions, such as where I suggested we delete the silly argument, but I have no interest in sharing them unless he decides to attack me specifically.

I also made the same snarky remark above about his "stifling" hypocrisy as a post in a Facebook group, but decided to delete it later. The page is a good natured fan group- no need to bring that up there.

The whole thing did upset me greatly, mostly as I feel I was being made a scapegoat for his old grudges.  I may write a general response about it as a blog post on the wiki or something. Nothing rude, just a statement that the wiki welcomes any who wish to edit it and that there is no bias, just a desire to create a wiki for ALL FANS, a "dictionary" of articles... maybe an invitation to air complaints or criticisms. Such as "do you know of content on on our wiki plagiarized from Wikipedia? Please tell us. We have great pride in the work we do and strive to produce original content."
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on January 06, 2022, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: antvasima on January 02, 2022, 03:17:03 PM
Yes. Agreed. It isn't like me or Ned are harsh regarding new members who help out.

You guys have done a tremendous job sprucing up the Tenchi Fandom, and working with you in past page generation / editing was a real treat.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 07, 2022, 07:14:37 AM
Yes, Ned and DishonorableKnight have done an amazing job improving the Tenchi wiki. Given that my main job is taking care of the VS Battles wiki, I mostly just patrolled edits regularly to prevent vandalism in the Tenchi wiki for several years.

The Tenchiforum member who started the new wiki seems to have banned Ned from his Discord chat room when the latter just tried to politely reason with him, which was very rude and unnecessary in my view.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Nonsuch Ned on January 07, 2022, 10:04:18 AM
Quote from: antvasima on January 07, 2022, 07:14:37 AM
Yes, Ned and DishonorableKnight have done an amazing job improving the Tenchi wiki. Given that my main job is taking care of the VS Battles wiki, I mostly just patrolled edits regularly to prevent vandalism in the Tenchi wiki for several years.

The Tenchiforum member who started the new wiki seems to have banned Ned from his Discord chat room when the latter just tried to politely reason with him, which was very rude and unnecessary in my view.
Thanks for the kind words. Working on them with DK and Carto and others kept me busy in these Covid days. I've only left my county 2 times since February 2020.

They also blocked my IP from even viewing Tenchi Forum or their wiki (which opened their first page yesterday- copy and pasted directly from Wikipedia).
:lmao:

If VPNs weren't a click away, that might be a little annoying.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Harls on January 07, 2022, 04:45:42 PM
You're not missing anything.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: AstroNerdBoy on January 08, 2022, 07:07:48 PM
There's nothing wrong the the existing Tenchi wiki, other than it doesn't "accurately" state that "Kajishima is a hack loser and everyone else who did a Tenchi thing is the awesomest of the awesome with a side of super awesome."

I used to go into Tenchi Forum from time to time. Then sometime after I became the official adapter for the "True Tenchi Muyo!" novels, my ID stopped working. I can't say there's a correlation, but I did find it interesting. They do still follow me on Twitter though.

When it comes to Tenchi fandom, I've never belittled anyone who thought the canon materials were inferior to "Tenchi Universe" or the like. Everyone has their own tastes. I personally prefer the canon universe from Kajishima-sensei, but that's just me. That doesn't mean I didn't like the spinoff stuff. And I'll admit, I wished that "Ai Tenchi Muyo!" had been (1) a better story and (2) tied to "Tenchi Universe".

Sadly, all of this can be traced back to OVA 3. I remember the days on the AIC English forums where the Japanese fans would tell us stuff. There was a significant faction of fandom who didn't like what they heard and chose to ignore it. Then when OVA 3 dropped and the stuff was proven correct, that's when you had the split with folks disliking the developments of OVA 3 either leaving fandom (a healthy choice), or creating a new fandom where all they do is rail on Kajishima (not healthy).
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 08, 2022, 08:16:24 PM
I agree the Non-Kajishima stuff is fine it's just something we don't focus on really, if someone where to come around and start translating non-kajishima stuff we would support them.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 09, 2022, 07:20:13 AM
Yes, I also agree with ANB. Which members have been around since the AIC Tenchi forum days btw? There is ANB, me, Jibril, maybe Zinv... anybody else? I have an uneven memory, especially as I spent 9 years medicated out of my mind and being a general nuisance as a consequence, as you all probably noticed.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 09, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
Antva,

Quite a few from AIC but I don't really remember exactly who.  Some people scatter like the wind and then rejoined under a new name so idk anymore. 

A lot of fans that come on facebook say they watched it from the Toonami days, so probably more than we expect.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: AstroNerdBoy on January 10, 2022, 01:00:33 AM
There are some on Tenchi Forum too, at least there were last time I had access. And recently, someone from back then reached out to me on Twitter. So that was cool.

Man, I miss True Sheol from back then. He knew a ton. I lost contact with him ages ago. I tried reaching out, but never heard back. Hopefully he's alive and well.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 10, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
Okay, noted. Thank you for the replies. I also miss Sheol.

Btw: Would either of you be interested in helping out as administrators in our wiki? Ned and Knight are already doing a great job, but we could always use further knowledgeable help.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dr.Soviet on January 10, 2022, 12:03:55 PM
Quote from: antvasima on January 10, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
Okay, noted. Thank you for the replies. I also miss Sheol.

Btw: Would either of you be interested in helping out as administrators in our wiki? Ned and Knight are already doing a great job, but we could always use further knowledgeable help.

I would but I got other stuff going on  :derp:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 10, 2022, 03:17:46 PM
My apologies for not including you. I was not sure if you are indepth knowledgeable enough about Tenchi Muyo to continuously increase the quality of many wiki pages.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: جبريل 無道 on January 10, 2022, 11:58:02 PM
My Tenchi knowledge is very outdated too.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 11, 2022, 06:42:21 AM
Okay. No problem.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: AstroNerdBoy on January 12, 2022, 03:52:07 PM
Quote from: antvasima on January 10, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
Btw: Would either of you be interested in helping out as administrators in our wiki? Ned and Knight are already doing a great job, but we could always use further knowledgeable help.

I don't have the time. You can see by how often I update the FAQ site, which needs it badly. 😅 I had to quit playing Marvel Strike Force and I'm paying for that on YouTube. Oh well.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on January 16, 2022, 09:18:01 AM
Okay. No problem. You are welcome to apply if you should change your mind.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Dreamr on February 19, 2022, 11:49:07 PM
I seem to recall having an account on the AIC English Tenchi site. I definitely remember the name True Sheol. I don't remember much about the poster. But I remember the name. I also remember S. Naoe dropping dank leaks.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on February 23, 2022, 05:15:31 PM
Okay. Great to have another oldtimer here then.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on March 01, 2022, 06:16:57 PM
Quote from: antvasima on January 10, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
Btw: Would either of you be interested in helping out as administrators in our wiki? Ned and Knight are already doing a great job, but we could always use further knowledgeable help.

Don't think I saw this earlier. I will be free following a commitment with regards to a St. Patty's event mid-month. What kind of content are you looking to update over there?

By the way, Kikai shows tremendous scanning, photography and penmanship (is the word typography?) with all the gallery uploads of auctioned Tenchi goodies. While it may be too specific or rare to include in the Fandom glossary, I suggest you get to onboarding him with the site maintenance pronto. :)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 02, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Well, we need summary pages for all the volumes of the old Tenchi Muyo manga, for example.

I am not sure whether or not I should instantly promote you again though. From what I recall, the last time I did so, you didn't really do much there afterwards. Maybe you can start by helping us out for a while in order to prove yourself a bit first?
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: DishonorableKnight on March 03, 2022, 01:22:42 AM
Quote from: antvasima on March 02, 2022, 08:29:10 AM
Well, we need summary pages for all the volumes of the old Tenchi Muyo manga, for example.

I am not sure whether or not I should instantly promote you again though. From what I recall, the last time I did so, you didn't really do much there afterwards. Maybe you can start by helping us out for a while in order to prove yourself a bit first?

Agree. Preferably, a moderator/admin should be one of the more active members on the wiki.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 03, 2022, 07:03:18 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Nonsuch Ned on March 03, 2022, 08:36:13 AM
I do think we could use some help on graphics design though.
I've done the best I can do, but our cherry tree top banner image is a little funky all the time and looks horrible in dark mode.

And our collage intro splash page image dates to OVA3/GXP.

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tenchi/images/b/b2/Tenchi_Muyo_Logo_3.png)

Making one of those is definitely beyond my abilities and freeware Paint.net image editor.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 04, 2022, 07:29:14 AM
Yes, help with designing a new main page image, featuring the main characters, would be very appreciated, but it would have to actually look genuinely good as well.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on March 09, 2022, 01:22:31 PM
Well, my guess is something that features the extended cast of characters from across several seasons. Something like this art by tumblr user harpuia:

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltmp8rhHd21qa41k6o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: onimono on March 09, 2022, 06:06:35 PM
Quote from: antvasima on March 04, 2022, 07:29:14 AM
Yes, help with designing a new main page image, featuring the main characters, would be very appreciated, but it would have to actually look genuinely good as well.

I can try to help. Do you have an image in mind for the main page?
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 10, 2022, 06:35:46 AM
Not particularly, but a very nice-looking collage featuring high quality rendered images of the main OVA cast standing beside each other would likely work well for us.

However, it needs to genuinely look better than the one that we use currently in our wiki's front page.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on March 11, 2022, 07:12:14 PM
Well, a quick search online shows a pair of picture books, a game edition and a song book cover bouncing around auction sites:

Bonus Episode Companion Artbook
(https://i.imgur.com/R5GVTOpl.jpg)

Bishoujyo Retsuzen / Dragon Magazine
(https://i.imgur.com/jpsP6tkl.jpg)

Super Famicom game
(https://i.imgur.com/c3rqn69.jpg)

Songbook (from Kikai's collection, omedetou on this rare find dude)
(https://i.imgur.com/DQTxM8b.png)
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: kikai ninjin on March 11, 2022, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: WaitoKon on March 11, 2022, 07:12:14 PM

Bonus Episode Companion Artbook
(https://i.imgur.com/R5GVTOpl.jpg)


I have that one too. Not scanned, afaik.

Quote from: WaitoKon on March 11, 2022, 07:12:14 PM

Bishoujyo Retsuzen / Dragon Magazine
(https://i.imgur.com/jpsP6tkl.jpg)


I think it was scanned by JM already.

Quote from: WaitoKon on March 11, 2022, 07:12:14 PM
Songbook (from Kikai's collection, omedetou on this rare find dude)
(https://i.imgur.com/DQTxM8b.png)

Gonna scan that one soon...  :discoursechef:
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 12, 2022, 11:33:37 AM
The last image looks good enough to use if somebody finds a version with just the characters, better colours, and none of the text or symbols.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 12, 2022, 11:49:30 AM
Never mind. I found it via a reverse image search. I will ask members of my main community to render it for me, so we can use it for the front page of our wiki.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on March 12, 2022, 05:22:38 PM
Might I be called upon for this audacious task, good sir?

(https://i.imgur.com/cmW3Wn1.jpg)
I can handle Etch-a-Sketch meme territory well enough.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 13, 2022, 06:16:37 AM
Thank you, but it is not necessary. I have added a rendered version of the image to our wiki's front page.

However, Dishonorable Knight thinks that our old front page image looked better, so I am currently waiting to see what Nonsuch Ned thinks regarding the issue.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: WaitoKon on March 13, 2022, 01:32:35 PM
 :woop: :woop:
(https://i.imgur.com/ULCsL2Y.png)

I was pleasantly surprised to see the rendered image online that quick, glad you sorted it out. Anyway, as you probably know, when posting a hyperlink leading to the Tenchi Fandom main page (in Web 2.0 / social media news feed context) now produces a very crisp landing page image preview. Please keep these current changes good sir.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: antvasima on March 13, 2022, 01:54:35 PM
No problem, but there is no guarantee that we will keep it. It depends on what Ned and Knight think.
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Kokoro on January 26, 2023, 12:33:26 PM
Sorry, this is such an old topic, but, have you though of using Gimp?
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: AstroNerdBoy on June 02, 2023, 01:09:31 AM
Speaking of saying goodbye to TF, they unfollowed me on Twitter today. I guess calling out corporate hypocrisy during the holy month of PRIDE was a sin too many. 😅
Title: Re: Saying goodbye to Tenchiforum
Post by: Kokoro on June 07, 2023, 05:06:02 PM
I saw something on TikTok about somebody going to Target to buy a rainbow mug in support of Pride, only to be disappointed to not have any selection!  Now, I WANT a rainbow mug!  (I love rainbows, and I love coffee! LOL)  Talk about a cup-o'-joy!!